Switch: Are Nintendo really banning hack enthusiasts?

At least two members of the Switch hacking community have seen their consoles/accounts banned from Nintendo’s online systems (error code 2124-4007), triggering a fear of massive bans from the Switch scene, and a bunch of “ha, we told you so, you nasty hackers” from some mainstream gaming sites.
Error Code 2124-4007
Hackers ShinyQuagsire and SciresM have recently reported on Twitter that their consoles (and/or accounts) have been banned from accessing Nintendo’s online services, including the eShop. ShinyQuagsire implied that somebody else also got their console banned recently.

Heh, one of my consoles finally got banned.
— Michael (@SciresM) May 22, 2018
Are you at risk of a 2124-4007 ban?
It doesn’t necessarily mean that Nintendo started a massive wave of banhammer on everybody in the scene though.
SciresM and ShinyQuagsire are heavy tinkerers who have been doing lots of hacking experiments on their consoles. As they admit themselves, because Nintendo have multiple ways to detect invalid activity on the console (including for example extensive crash reports that can be sent to their servers), it is unclear which one of their activities (crashes while working on homebrew, downloading content from Nintendo’s servers by non-traditional means, usage of the homebrew loader), or potentially a combination of them, actually triggered the ban.
Bottom line is, unless you’re a hacker heavily involved in doing lots of experiments with your Switch, there’s no proof at the moment that using homebrews or a hacked console will get you banned.
However, and this is true for any console: you have to accept the rules, that a company like Nintendo can choose to ban your console or your account if they have any good reason to believe that you are in breach of their terms and conditions, or if you are threatening their network.
So, unlike mainstream media, I will not tell you to “not hack your favourite systems” (it’s my machine, I’ll do whatever I want with it, thank you very much), however I would personally recommend people who use a hacked console to not access any of Nintendo’s services with it. My personal solution is to keep my hacked consoles off the internet as much as possible (this is what I currently do with my hacked PS4 and Switch), or to block access to the known networks of the manufacturer (Nintendo in this case)
Feel free to mess with your console, but understand the risks. So far, nobody has reported such a ban, except for people who are experimenting with their console on a much larger scale than the typical scene member.
What to do if you get error code 2124-4007 on your Nintendo Switch?
Provided you don’t do something foolish such as accessing the eShop or other Nintendo online services with a hacked (or previously hacked) Switch, you should be fine. If however you face the dreaded error code 2124-4007 on your Nintendo Switch, the only official option for now is to contact Nintendo’s customer support service.
Perhaps if they hadn’t of been shouting off on Twitter they wouldn’t have been BANNED, I use my console online and regularly use pFBA and Outrun using the joycon hack and I’m not banned. But then I didn’t boast about it all over the place.
Perhaps read articles before commenting? These guys tinker and crash their devices all the time mostly intentionally, with intent to hack and learn about the inner workings. One of these crashes must have contained info that helped Nintendo come to a conclusion that the device had been tampered with. This has nothing to do with twitter.
Haha. You didn’t read it either.
I don’t think they “boasted” their Nintendo ID/MAC Address on Twitter for Nintendo to know the certain Switch they are using to ban. So yeah, Twitter has nothing to do with it.
Haha. You didn’t read it either.
And never did you.
*neither. 😛
You do realise that Nintendo only banned them based from from the crash reports, not from reading Twitter… How would Nintendo know which Switch is SciresM’s? Lol…
Why, ban them all until SciresM complains, of course! /s
Showing off on Twitter means NOTHING! There would be no correlation between them gloating on Twitter to them getting banned……c’mon now! Getting a ban can happen at ANY time you’d least expect it. It only happened to them, because it already states that they were tinkerers of their system and probably raised a few red flags to that outcome. Showing off on social media means nothing to getting a console ban.
Your posts make me cringe for you. Go learn something.
I agree. Its been a race which hacker group does it first. Of course social media plays a big role there. I wouldnt worrie too much on end user side though since we only hack our consoles once ^^ not 10 – 20 times depenting on testing of course. lol
Nintendo is just delaying the inevitable. Once the switch gets fully cracked and able to run games from ISOs, there will be zero reasons to ever use their online services.
Uhh, what about playing multiplayer games online?
*** you don’t deserve online once you put questionable contents into your console
You could probably establish unofficial servers for the majority of games.
That’s a lot of work to avoid spending a whole $20 a year to set up a tiny player pool where matches will be harder to find
I could only imagine the mess that Splatoon 2 would be if people played on unofficial servers…it would be a cheaters playground!
Like what? Splatoon or Arms? No one cares. All the best games are singleplayer like Odyssey and Zelda.
Ah, sorry, forgot that nobody cares about the 4th best-selling Switch title (Splatoon 2) at over 6 million copies…
Stupid.
Can’t wait to dump gamecarts to ISO files.
The title of this article is somewhat sensationalist. Two people who have admitted to hacking thier consoles are not banned for being hack enthusiasts, they are people who got banned for hacking the console. When you have an online service, this is going to happen if you don’t take precautions.
It doesn’t matter what kind of website you are. Don’t mess with the console if you don’t want to risk a ban. Most of us are willing.
Dump your NAND people, this will only help in the future.
Dumping your NAND isn’t really going to help at all, your console ID will remain the same and its unlikely that you can restore a NAND backup from one console on to another due to things like the per console key, while a backup will be helpful, it won’t help in cases like this
I was extreamly lucky to find a switch at my local mediamarkt that was a release unit, it came with version 1.0.0 so
I deleted all of my hacked files from my 4.1.0 main switch before update it to the 5.0.2. Im now playing hyrule wariors on one and pokemon emerald on the other
” Hadn’t of ….” What does that mean, it makes no sense. And I bet your English is native..
Also, just to point out. You are exactly doing what you at critiquing – blabing about hacking exploits on a public forum.
At least you didn’t write “First” as well.
Have a good day
HA
Too bad they can’t ban Nintendo fanboyism. That would rock!
Actually it does not really matter if Nintendo bans users who tehtered their devices, because in some months ninty will launch their paid online service.
So ninty is shooting themselves in their foot, its redundant to ban hacked consoles. A hacker/pirate would never use the PAID online service (only some cod kiddos do that, pirate the game to play online and cheat, getting caught in the process).
And with this ban, you’re only banned from playing online, not from accessing the eshop to download and install ***.
I solely bought a switch for hacking (pirating) reasons, I can care less about that ban.
Ini have my switch have been ban recently. I don’t know why ive been banned. Iam not hack my switch nor install any mod. Its look like Nintendo doing a wrong ban. FYI im live in Indonesia and i have used switch on region america. And now im sad that i cannot play online anymore.
To Arifin,
Oh.. that’s a bad news..
Just wondering if you bought the console or any games second hand? The last owner of console might just sx hacked before. Or the last owner of the game might backed up his game and play the copy online.. these two way could definitely get your switch banned..
@Thrawn there are different ban levels. The ban talked about in this article will not allow you to access eShop, more then an online game ban.
Use only Sys NAND for online and CFW for off. Only option is make dumps of both and switch between both. It’s not rocket science and works.