Gateway3DS bricking 3DS consoles if you use competitor products… again
Gateway3DS had warned the scene a few weeks ago: if you use one of the Gateway3DS clones, you’ll get into trouble. In their exact words: “you have been warned”.
PS: We have noticed some serious and dangerous flaws in an unofficial Gateway emulation plugin,
and we strongly urge to cease using this plugin and only use GENUINE Gateway! You have been warned!
How Gateway 3DS is bricking your 3DS
It seems some people using one of the competition’s flashcart, a device named DSTWO+, have been bricking their consoles lately, by using the latest Gateway firmware.
It’s obvious that the Gateway code is injecting a virus into the console, that will detect usage of clone flashcarts, and brick the console as a result. They’ve done it before, and to add insult to the injury, have blamed their competitors for it.
Back when Gateway started bricking 3DS consoles almost 2 years ago, we called out the danger of it. It turned out that the code was dangerously written, and examples existed of people getting a brick even though they were using original Gateway 3DS.
This time again, the reports are troubling. User Rashka on GBATemp reported a brick on his 3DS. Yet he owns a Gateway card. The reason for his brick? In addition to the Gateway card, he also owns a DSTWO+. Gateway don’t discriminate and don’t care that he owns a Gateway card and paid for their business. He also owns a clone, and in their eyes, deserves to be punished for it.
my 3DS XL (FW9.2) was working like a charm with my Gateway Card for 3DS and my DSTwo for DS.
I’ve bought a DSTwo Plus, so that I do not have to carry more than one cartridge.While I’ve setup the DSTwo plus, there weren’t any Problems. EmuNAND was loading via go.gateway… roms are running fine (11 Dumps, all legally owned).
After completing the setup, I’ve done 1 (one) boot to gateway mode with the Gateway card.
While my next boot after, was done with the DSTWO Plus, ther was a double white screen for 10 minutes after I’ve opened the gateway link. After thes 10 minutes the 3DS automatically shut down.Next “try” to start the 3DS end in a BlueScreen
Gateway 3DS bricks: should users be punished for buying a clone?
I find it amazing that people would be willing to give their business to that kind of group.
The real issue though, is the thousands of people who have no idea this war between piracy device manufacturers is going on. Unsuspecting users will buy the cheapest flashcart they can find, based on the advice of a friend, because “they’re all the same thing”, not knowing that this could lead to a brick.
People who state that “Gateway is in their right to protect their work against clones” are incorrectly assuming that all customers of these products are aware of the differences between Gateway 3DS and the clones. Newsflash: most people don’t know, most people don’t care, they just want to play games for free on their console, and a friend of a friend told them they had to buy a flashcart from this or that site.
There exists tools to unbrick your 3DS, but they require some hardware modifications. With a raspberry pi or an arduino, you can fix your bricked 3DS: head over to the GBATemp thread for unbrick. I can picture a juicy business of people buying bricked 3DS for cheap on eBay, fixing them, and reselling them as new.
The only sane thing to do moving forward is to stop giving your money to a group with such shady practice.
Head over to the GBATemp thread for more discussions on this ongoing topic.
I can understand their motives for doing this, but I have to agree that this is quite stupid, and that Gateway may be going too far with this. I mean, people can choose whoever they want to buy from, Gateway does not have the power to change that.
On the flip side, I was actually thinking of buying another 3DS with a lower firmware and a Gateway 3DS card so i could play Fire Emblem: Fates and Zelda: Tri Force Heroes. But after hearing about this, I think I’ll just buy a 3DS and go for the Pasta CFW method, since that seems like the best method right now for pirating games
Bruh. If you get a low fw 3ds.. Use CFW. It’s free and won’t screw your system up.
Unforrtunately my 3DS XL’s firmware is way too high, so i have to buy another 3DS XL that has a lower firmware and then use CFW. I appreciate the support
Actually you know what? I’m just gonna buy SKY3DS+ NOW! HALLELUJEH! Much cheaper than buying another 3DS since I’m on 9.6E!
Why bother? I have a GW as well as an MT card and they have both served me well on an XL and a Launch Cosmo…..still now you don’t really need it.
Anything up to a 9.2 XL or Old 3DS can be downgraded to 4.x allowing you to use the MSET hack to launch CFW. On 2DS you can downgrade to 6.x I believe and also use MSET (with RxTools) to launch CFW. N3DS is a little trickier but can still use CFW.
RxTools allows you run current EMUnand so you can use eshop, go online or whatever as well as install a .cia installer. Which then allows you to install any game/eshop or DLC/Update you want.
If you are anti-piracy then dump your carts and use a .cia converter to convert them.
SD cards are so cheap, you can get a 64GB card and have everything you would ever want to play. No GW, no bricks, no problems!!!
Man, you guys were right. RX Tools is the way to go. I downgraded my 9.6OFW to 9.2SYSNAND, installed RX Tools Nightlies, MenuHax to boot RX Tools off powering it on and updated to 10.6 RX-E EMUNAND and its perfect. Now I have the japanese version of Fire Emblem If (because f-ck the localized version butchering everything), and I just download any 3DS rom and convert it to CIA, or just download CIAs and DLC and install onto my 3DS EMUNAND. It’s perfect, with online play also. So happy with this, and am so glad I didnt buy a Gateway or SKY3DS+. CFW is the way to go
They way I see this is:
If other companies can make the product cheaper and still make a profit, so can GateWay. There is no reason for it to cost as much as it does.
If other companies can copy their firmware and bypass the software engineering costs, so can gate- oh wait.
Look, i’m not being apologetic of the douchebaggery that gateway is doing, it’s a bit extreme, but if people are buying clones without the proper knowledge about them, i can assure you 100% that they’re buying them just to pirate games.
What happens when people get random bricks again for using a gateway card legitimately?
Supercard is at fault for thinking Gateway would roll over without a bang. Supercard willingly took the risk and now Gateway is to blame? Please.
If Supercard created their own Launcher.dat file this mess would not have happened. Instead they now went from reputable DS flashcard to useless clone because they wanted to capitalize on Gateway’s achievements without even putting in 0.01% of the effort Gateway has over all these years.
For that, Supercard deserves ALL the blame.
Attacking the *users* is not the right move when a *competitor* is doing you wrong. In particular because Gateway ends up attacking their own users! (People who bought both the Gateway and a competitor product). I’m not saying clones are doing the right thing, but ultimately, Gateway are the ones who consciously chose to destroy people’s property, including that of their own customers.
i’m not on gateways side, but gateway did “warn” the users many time.
when the *user* decides to continue, then who’s fault is that?
like, I warn you that I have put a nail on the ground, do not step on it, but then you stupidly decided to do so anyway….
Over the past couple years, gateway did show and achieve many new things for the hack community, without them, I don’t know how rxtool will exist.
you’re assuming flashcart users know about Gateway, their website, the clone wars going on, and more generally where and how to get such information. That’s a wrong assumption for 95% of the users of these flashcarts.
well., they reap what they sow
I have to agree. I’ve been to some local stores that deal in these products, and most of them haven’t even heard of this clones war that been raging. And the store owner didn’t even know about it either, and started issuing apologize notices to all their past customers that came in and complained about it.
You’re basing this on assumption that the users all knows about it or that they’re even keeping up to date on scene like these. Chances are…they’re not…and Gateway can cut down on the cost, but they’re not, because they know they’re the only one that has the “REAL” hack that nobody else has.
The only way you can cut into Gateway’s profit is if you’re able to reverse engineer their codes and sell it, but so far, from this report, it seem like nobody has.
lol @ images. Personally I would have chosen the image right before the red one on the “destroyed 3ds” google image results.
Asuri it costs because of research and development. Flashcards are dirt cheap and don’t do anything fancy. It is the firmware that is doing all the hard work. It is the firmware that competitors steal to sell their products.
If you understand that the firmware is doing all the hardwork, then you agree destroying clones is the right thing to do.
*** really? I was thinking about getting a Gateway 3DS for CubicNinja + translations without HANS but *** that now. This is a really dirty way of doing business and I ain’t supporting them.
Never buy anything from them, when they are done they will burn your 3DS
Don’t blame Gateway, just blame Dstwo+ to have not checked the code and just made a simple paste of the Gateway code without any modification and any check…
😉
GatewayTeam should die …what a *** against-gamers-strategy.
Thanks god, the new sky3ds+ card has updatable firmware and ap fix. So i can play fire emblem and zelda heroes without gateway bricksoft. Yes sky3ds costs 12€ more than gateway, but its working even on 10.3fw and not risk for any brick.
OMG REALLY?! THAT MEANS I DONT NEED TO BUY ANOTHER 3DS WITH LOWER FIRMWARE ANYMORE!!!! I hope its not too expensive!
I just looked at the website and its been confirmed!
http://www.sky3ds.com/sky+.html
Yeah man! Sky3DS+ Rocks. No need anything like Spoof Firmware or anything that could brick your 3DS. But of course it cost money.
WHO CARES! I’d rather buy another flash card than have to buy another 3DS entirely coz my firmware’s too high! This is a dream come true ^_^ now I can play Fire Emblem Fates and Zelda: Tri Force Heroes <3
Solution: Don’t use Gateway. Buy your games legitimately, and run them on cartridges like everybody else.
There’s always that one guy…..
I hate the idea of a manbag just for a portable system…
buy it digitally, oooh right Nintendo is unreliable for digital store. LMAO
This. I find it ironic that a group making piracy possible is now upset that they are being pirated. LOL
what goes around, comes around
and for them it seems to hurt like a ***. so much so that they have to resort to doing this. LOL
It’s not butthurt feelings, it’s business. They lose potential money from people telling other people not to buy their product too, but they won’t lose money from the ones that already bought the product.
get out of here with that ***
it’s people like the OP posting “get legit copies, blah blah blah” that really *** me off.
Maybe people can’t AFFORD to
Nah we’re hackers. We wanna bypass that.
I personally would opt for an annoying watermark, or a shutdown timer for a few minutes whenever running software from the clone. But bricking the console of unknowing users, putting them in awkward place where they can’t go to Nintendo to solve the problem, isn’t a nice way to say “Hey you’re running a unauthorized card” when most clones are hard to distinguish from the original.
why would they even care about you? profit is all there is.
Ya know. I wanted a GayWay 3DS, but they proved that they are not what I’m looking for. I’ll just stick with the sky. Simpler, and SAFE!
and not future proof.
Yeah, because Gateway is so future proof you have to stay on an explicit version for it to work at all. Great work there… Oh and look at that, the new sky3ds is future proof and updateable.
*mic drop*
Yes, they do have a right to protect themselves, and yes, it shouldn’t matter to them that people are buying clones without thinking. By buying cards to pirate games people throw away their rights to be *** if it backfires. And I’m not saying that you shouldn’t ever pirate games, no. But do your research or blame only yourself for problems.
The best is sky3ds.
You gotta be joking this is just like when total noob decided to be a little boy tight *** about people hes mad at and started doing the same thing to zettabytes and whoever else thats on his hater list. Buy sky3ds or stick with cfw it’s getting better we just need better coders hopefully people from the ps3 cfw team jump in.
well i guess gateway design new software that way. although r4 they send is really a cheap knock off.
See these are the sort of *** that ruin everything, they are providing a device that is aimed at piracy, I don’t care if they say its for “backups” they know what people do with it, yet try take some moral high ground on it by saying “no we are the only company you should use our software with” imagine if microsoft did this because you bought MS office but decided to use libre or open office because it does something better, or your uni or college required you to use them because office wasn’t available, *** these guys.
I do not own a flashcart and only use software based homebrew only, but I was involved in development with the 1st software backup loader for wii, and me and the other guy made specific reasons to try make sure that at its core it would not break something, even when people made their own mods to it, if something was broken we would release fixes that would help with their development.
Screw Gateway Sky3ds is beast!!!
they should brick every nintendo console for all i care :v
Both gateway and you people sucks, sympathizing pirates now, really? it’s not like i defending nintendo, i hate them.
Its more than time that we have some realiable option for modding and running roms on the 3ds
So unsuspecting users may know nothing, but SuperCard team sure as heck knows what they were doing with their “GW” plugin. Telling their users to install a certain piece of software that they themselves have no control over. And it was known what happened to clone users, so SC cannot use the We Didnt Know argument.
ill be buying a bricked or used 3ds and probably not going through a company who uses malicious code to destroyed what i payed for instead of targeting the cloners. Until i read this i had no idea and was going to use gateway but this killed it for me. Why not simply permanently disable further use of Gateway products instead of bricking their customers consoles? IF, and i stress IF modding your own consoles ever becomes 100% legal, gateway’s “warning” wont save them from a lawsuit. Actually, if a loophole is found in whatever law it may be, gateway is in trouble…maybe
*** GATEWAY!!! They need to be taken down a notch! All they do is repackage everyone else s hard work and sell it back to them. at an over-inflated price! That is why they hate clones. The “clones” sell the hardware at a decent price. They’d rather force a monopoly than face competition.
I could see them making the Gateway firmware not run on a clone because it is their firmware. But *** bricking a console THAT ISN’T EVEN THEIRS?! *** THEM, that’s crossing the line! We need to rise up against these money-hungry ***! Quit bending over and just taking it! Quit letting them take your work for granted!
The hypocrisy is strong with Gateway!
“We are completely fine with releasing a product that enables piracy and screws over legitimate software developers. But we become butthurt when people pirate our stuff. Whaaaaa! I can’t handle it so I’ll brick their consoles!”
The hypocrisy is strong with Gateway!
“We are completely fine with releasing a product that enables piracy and screws over legitimate software developers. But we become butthurt when people pirate our stuff. Whaaaaa! We can’t handle it so We’ll brick their consoles!”
well said
Thanks
All hail Sky3DS!
gateway.. are u mad ? talk to nintendo .. lol
yeah,like if they’re the ones that got a license from nintendo to hack their consoles,lol
It’s funny how a team of people who enable piracy on a console, screw over people who pirate their work. Consumers are always the ones that get sc***.
Wow,the mafia amongst the flashcarts…. like,seriusly, why won’t they just stop this madness?
I’m so glad I didnt buy a Gateway or SKY3DS+. CFW and RX Tools is the way to go. I downgraded my 9.6OFW to 9.2SYSNAND thanks to SysUpdater and the Homebrew Launcher (THANK YOU TO WHOEVER MADE THE DOWNGRADE POSSIBLE), installed RX Tools Nightlies, MenuHax to boot RX Tools off powering it on and updated to 10.6 RX-E EMUNAND and its perfect. Now I have the japanese version of Fire Emblem If (because f-ck the localized version butchering everything), and I just download any 3DS rom and convert it to CIA, or just download CIAs and DLC and install onto my 3DS EMUNAND. It’s perfect, with online play also.
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