Xbox 360 backward compatibility coming to Xbox One in 2 weeks. Time for Sony to step their game up?
It had been announced almost a year ago, but it is now official: the Xbox One will be getting X360 backwards compatibility with the next firmware update in November.
According to older reports back when the feature was being beta tested, X360 backwards compatibility on the xbox one sounds like a great deal for gamers: it works whether you purchased the game digitally or have a physical version. For digital purchases, you’ll only have to redownload the game on your xbox one from your account. For owners of physical copies, you’ll be able to download a digital copy, and the xb360 emulator on the system will then check for the presence of the original disc in the drive.
Yup, that’s a pretty sweet thing, and I know most people will dismiss it as “not so useful”, but for people who were on the fence of switching to the next generation, this could mean a lot. Especially with the ongoing deal giving you a free game for the purchase of an Xbox One…
Microsoft mentioned that not all games will be fully compatible with the embedded emulator, but hinted at regular improvements to the backwards compatibility list, which is currently relatively small.
PS4 Backward compatibility with PS4 4.0 update?
It’s no question that the PS4 has taken the lead in the console wars this generation. But with this move, it is possible that Microsoft will get a significant boost in sales by convincing player to jump to the new generation console, especially with this move just ahead of the holiday season.
Which brings us to the question: would it be possible for Sony to bring PS3 backward compatibility to the PS4? And if so, one has to wonder if this means PS Plus members would get both PS4 and PS3 games for free in such a scenario. Well, I can dream about PS4 Firmware update 4.0 to bring PS4 backward compatibility for PS3 games…
Yoshida has stated clearly a few months ago, when the Xbox One backwards compatibility announcement was made, that Sony did not have similar plans:
“I don’t think we will change our approach. The PlayStation 4 doesn’t have backward compatibility.”
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I totally understand people asking for it, and if it was easy, we’d have done that. But our focus is creating PS4 games and adding new services. Remaking games on PS4 makes the games even better – with The Last Of Us, you can play at 60 frames per second, and the same goes for Dark Souls 2. Actually, I just finished Dark Souls 2 again on PS4.
Sony focus more on remakes than ps4 backwards compatibility
Well, that sucks 🙁
So ps4 statement was like we don’t want you guys to buy new game just buy the HD remakes of old games. so why not put ps2 emulation and let ps now handle our ps3 games, jeez
Sony think ps now going fix there backward problem but not everyone has good internet for Stream game. plus there alot delay in stream game from a ps server. they just need to make ps3 emulator in the ps4 firmware. they have the knowledge to make ps3 emulator
PS3 backwards compatibility IS NOT going to happen. PS2 emulation is a little more reasonable, but that still is only so-so on PC.
You forget that they built the machine, they have better knowledge on how to potentially emulate it than anybody else, they are not constrained by the same limits you see on unofficial PC emulators!
They may have made it, but they also made it incredibly difficult to develop on.
Built-in PS2 emulator on non-backwards compatible PS3s works excellent for the most part. Maybe $ony will come up with PS3 emulator later on, who knows.
Built-in PS2 emulator on non-backwards compatible PS3s works really good for the most part, but PSP emulator’s not so great though. Maybe $ony will come up with PS3 emulator later on, who knows.
There’s literally hundreds and hundreds of excellent indie and major games on PSN, it’ll be such a waste to not profit from selling them lather on.
Theres a ps3 emu that runs at decent speeds already,
I think psnow is the enemy of bc on ps4.
But having to redownload the 360 game? Ridiculous. I could save a lot of time reconnecting my old 360 which has a better controller.
How else do you expect to get the game on your Xbox One besides re-downloading it? How slow can your connection be that you won’t do that?
there way to do just install the disc of the game you on that convert the file into file that can read on the xbox one they just need to make xbox 360 convert program in firmware xbox one instead making redownload a game. they took long way idea
Some games run differently though, they aren’t exactly the same.
Each game is patched to work on an individual basis, so there would be no conversion program for all 360 to X1 compatible games.
Just like PS2 Classics on PS3, minus scanning the disk for verification, and having to rebuy them, the process is the same. This is speaking of the non-B/C PS3 models of course.
I’d say find a way to make the system use the original disc — perhaps some sort of internal conversion.
I’ve used an xbox one before when a relative stayed for holiday. This is not really an exaggeration:
http://it.ign.com/e3-2015-in-diretta-da-los-angeles/98342/news/sony-nessuna-retrocompatibilita-per-ps4
I still have my ps3, and while I’d greatly appreciate backwards compatibility for it on ps4, it’s understandable that it would very hard to pull off given the ps3’s unique processor.
However, in this case they should allow us to remote play ALL our ps3 games, not just from the vita, but also onto ps4.
And there is no excuse for the ps4 to not be able to handle ps1, ps2 and psp games, considering all three are being emulated on nowadays smartphones without any Sony official backing it.
My PC plays games from the 80’s.
I think like they said, the issue is with the ease of backwards compatibility. Don’t get me wrong, the way Microsoft did backwards compatibility was not easy by any means, but the PowerPC architecture is heavily documented and widely used by many companies, plus if I understand right, most, if not all of, 360 games run off of a DirectX 9 API which makes it easier to remap to the Xbox One. The main issue is that Sony decided to use the Cell architecture which is difficult to code for, not very widely used, and is highly advanced. For them to get games coded for that processor to run natively on the PS4 would be insanely difficult, if not impossible to do.
If you get a chance, read up on how the Xbox One manages backwards compatibility. It is a very interesting read and explains how they managed to remap each thread to a core. Considering they were not planning to include backwards compatibility with the hardware designs, we are lucky it is even possible at all.
(Note: Not a major on this subject, just like to read up on it, if I got anything wrong, feel free to correct me)
Well, I mean do you see yourself playing a last gen game in 2-3 years(Frequently)? It is a lot of work, especially since they’d have to emulate their complicated cell architecture so I can see why he thinks it isn’t worth it.
I’m not to worried about bc, but ps3 remote play to ps4 would be sweet, or full ps4 remote support on ps3, hackers proved the ps3 could do remote play to psp and vita
Adding backwards compatibility to their newest console, would render SONY’s plan for selling the not-so-updated ps3 games on a digital form pointless. They’d loose millions of money. It’s not wise to do that when there is such a huge investment in selling over the ‘net. They will not and should not do it now. What they SHOULD do is step up their game with TRUELY enhanced versions of their collection and not these cheap remakes that put shame to fan-dedication.
if someone hacks the xbone 360 emu like they did with vwii and epsp i’ll be all over this s**t
I still play plenty of games from more than 15 years ago. The reason that you have to re-download each 360 game is because each game has to be modified to run with the emulator. The modification is probably more complex than a simple patch.
I wish that Sony would add PS3 emulation to the PS4. It’s a pain to have to unplug the console I am using to hook up another console as my TV only has one HDMI port. Being able to play PS, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games on the same console would be the best. There are plenty of PS and PS2 games that never saw another version of the game or the developer went by-by. I still like to play the original music game by Harmonix called Frequency. Can’t wait for the Amplitutde re-boot as my name is in the credits.
“It’s a pain to have to unplug the console I am using to hook up another console as my TV only has one HDMI port.”
Then buy a $20 4-port HDMI Switcher. Problem solved!
Oh, I am fine with PS4 not being backwards compatible. I don’t think that Sony can make an emulator for the cell processor within a reasonable cost and effort. Even Xbone’s BC is initially limited. Just imagine how bad PS4’s would linger behind in BC.
It might not be worth it.
What if there was some way and an official accessory that let you connect your ps3 to your ps4 in a form of pseudo BC? Also, there’s no logical reason why psx and ps2 full BC via disk or digital is still not available. The PS3 plays ps2 games great even upscaling to 720p, this is the non BC versions nonetheless. And pretty much any x86 machine with anything above a pentium 4 has been able to play psx games at full speed and upscaling. This is unacceptable Sony.
Also, I think it’s a horrendous idea on the company’s behalf to not have any type of BC with the major lack of decent games. I just finished MGSV. Turned off the PS4, plugged the PS3 back in. Yes the PS3 has a massive library of games, however, the PS3 actually has a library of games that are actually good and that makes all the difference.
I don’t seem to see the difference from ps now? I want to see someone do some disc based backwards compatibility! This way I don’t have to wait to get the past gen library I want, I can go get it right now. With all that said…… Props to Xbox and Microsoft for the update and if they push out the 360 games then it should be a really positive update for them as a whole.
You know though??? Wii u has done this from day one? I know that they aren’t the powerhouses that the others are, but at least the seem to care what gamers want! I understand that Sony and Microsoft are all about the mighty dollar, but when is enough, enough? I mean y’all already got more money than Oprah! When they make the consoles the say that they weren’t designed to play past gen games, But why not? If I was Sony or Microsoft I’d release a backwards compatible console, even if it’s not next gen and is like a slim update of some sort! With Sony already having a leg up this could be (imo) the final nail in the coffin! I’m a Sony fan, but I own all three (wii u, ps4, and one) if Microsoft released a backwards compatible one update in a slim version I’d be the first in line to get it! Then maybe my ps4 would be the one gathering dust? (Prob not tho)
I don’t seem to see the difference from ps now? I want to see someone do some disc based backwards compatibility! This way I don’t have to wait to get the past gen library I want, I can go get it right now. With all that said…… Props to Xbox and Microsoft for the update and if they push out the 360 games then it should be a really positive update for them as a whole.
You know though??? Wii u has done this from day one? I know that they aren’t the powerhouses that the others are, but at least the seem to care what gamers want! I understand that Sony and Microsoft are all about the mighty dollar, but when is enough, enough? I mean y’all already got more money than Oprah! When they make the consoles the say that they weren’t designed to play past gen games, But why not? If I was Sony or Microsoft I’d release a backwards compatible console, even if it’s not next gen and is like a slim update of some sort! With Sony already having a leg up this could be (imo) the final nail in the coffin! I’m a Sony fan, but I own all three (wii u, ps4, and one) if Microsoft released a backwards compatible one update in a slim version I’d be the first in line to get it! Then maybe my ps4 would be the one gathering dust? (Prob not tho)
Sorry about the double post
I think this is a great idea. Should of been done from the beginning but yeah. Some gamers like to have less consoles to play their libraries and others prefer to play on the original console. It’s always a positive when they do this because it adds value to the consumer for the same cost. Nintendo did this on multiple consoles. Soft modded WiiU also plays GameCube in upscaled 1080p… Now, Sony isn’t going to do this anymore as it will compete with their other services they have. I haven’t even played my ps4 in months now.
Sony just sold 29 million PS4s, which puts it higher than the PS2 and a faster rate than the Wii. Now…so why does Sony need to step up their game again?
Isn’t it funny how Microsoft thinks they’re moving FORWARD with BACKWARDS compatibility? I mean c’mon, focus on the core system. If I wanted to play 360 games…. I have a 360 for that. FOCUS on the NEW generation Microsoft. Either that or keep running your One games at 720p/30 fps. heck, most 360 games I played were 1080p/60 fps. In conclusion, I think the 360 is a far superior system than the One and there is no need to upgrade to the One anytime soon.
If there is PS3 Backward Compatibilty, then is there anyone who want to buy PS3 again, instead buy PS4 for playing both game format