These are the sites and hackers showcased in ESA’s Exhibit A

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69 Responses

  1. The Z says:

    I seriously hope that WinXP screenshot is not yours.

    • Joel16 says:

      lel, was gonna ask just that.

    • Nah, they belong to the anti-piracy donkey that works for Nintendo.
      The c*** didn’t mention my site >.<

      • Ricky D says:

        …..because you’ve never been as important as you pretend to be?

        • lolzoar says:

          BURN!

        • CPUzX says:

          Sir, I am truly saddened that there is no “like” option in the comments’ section.):

          I’d VERY much like to like your comment for that brutal honesty. Holy ***.

        • Weird, i don’t recall myself being mentioned, nor do i see where i mentioned myself.

          I mentioned a website which i own, you should be able to tell the difference between a person and a website.

          But then again, a coward who hides behind a fake name and doesn’t show who he is, is truly less important than i could ever be.

          Thanks for the love though and thanks for showing what true cowardice is 🙂

    • anonanon says:

      “As smealum pointed out on twitter, probably the most shocking thing in this document is that whoever took the screenshot is still running Windows XP. Not very serious, from a company that is supposed to represent, among other companies, the interests of Microsoft :)”

    • BlumCoLe says:

      Damn, …had the same thought. xD

  2. Deviiid says:

    Is it THAT wrong to want to play psp games i had already bought once, on my ps vita? or i have to go around with 500 handhelds to be able to play all my games?

    • Reprep says:

      Buy it, buy it once more, buy it again, buy it till you die. That is what they want you to do.

  3. bwitzberger says:

    No!.. PSN you can buy the digital copy for 10$…

  4. HaYNigloo says:

    IMHO, any product a consumer buys, thereafter belongs to the consumer to do as they please. I understand about intellectual properties, but that’s like saying you can’t “graffiti” your binders or notebooks!

    • theWizard says:

      Yep. I think you hit the nail on the head with this one.

      Especially when the notebook company said they were gonna ship the notebook with a graphing calc. And then it turned out the calc could only do basic math and algebra even though if it was cared for it could easily be capable of what was promised.

      then they said you HAD to use their calculator instead of your old graphing calc that was just fine. Or you could buy a new one with the same features ad the old one…

    • drd7of14 says:

      The property, in replication, the design, you do not own. That goes for all property. Music/Games/Movies/Books/Newspapers…You can’t legally replicate those. I understand wanting to preserve your license, but for physical media, the license is only attached to that physical media. You can copy the physical media, but you don’t get to copy the license. That is in fact…illegal, and it makes sense in how the delivery works.

      • AliceTheGorgon says:

        You’re completely wrong there. People are allowed to replicate the heck out of their own purchased stuff (yes, even digital things), the issue is if they distribute the copies. Personal backups have been legal for a very long time.

        Minor note, often, distributing the tools to break the DRM on an item is illegal, but using those tools on your own personal purchases is not illegal.

        • The man above is wrong says:

          nu uh dood, ur not allowed to even backup ur own media. All backups are illegal regardless if its ur own *** and backed up for just ur personal use. The minute u back anything up ur breaking the law.

          • AliceTheGorgon says:

            What country are you from then?
            In the USA, it’s absolutely legal to make personal backups of digital items.

            Obviously, the laws of other countries may differ though.

            If you’re saying it’s illegal in the US, then link to the proof, as that literally contradicts everything I’ve ever read on the subject.
            Note that I’m *not* talking about distributing the tools to crack DRM, which are at best a grey area, I’m talking about actually backing up the content itself.

  5. DonoPatay says:

    In the long run this will hamper innovation and improvement because Corporations will say “F**K YOU! You can’t improve and innovate with our products. Be content with what we sell you.” and thus the freedom to revolutionize only belongs to Corporations.

    • Xyrem says:

      …Or they’ll finally be forced to start innovating, to find a way to selling you something.

      I remember the quote of the pdg of a big auto company (I don’t remember which company, I heard this a long time ago) who said to Bill Gates something like
      “If you were the one leading the automobile industry, we would still ride in wouden cars”

      That’s our actual world reality. Profit first.
      But don’t worry, there will always be people who are passionated and dedicated who’ll keep doing games, and trying to innovate/revolutionnize the industry. Because that’s their life-goal. And they are more likely to do that than companies only looking for easy-money. 🙂

  6. omnipotent says:

    Pretty bold accusations. I could see nintendo’s side because they make games and improve their consoles. Sony on the other hand makes crappy LCD next gen console with no note worthy games and even takes apps away like you tube and near.

    • drd7of14 says:

      Clearly you haven’t heard how those VITA apps were removed to improve ram availability by an extra 30%. That is improving their consoles. And that goes for all VITAs, not just a new unit that you have to purchase.

      • wilfredo says:

        clearly i experienced first hand what this up date is doing . the moment i updated to 3.50 my memory card had an error. when i told sony they said well the card malfunctioned and can never be used agin they said “screw you go fetch us more money”

        • lmao says:

          My opinions:
          Piracy is illegal, no bargain for that.
          In event, hacking should be deemed illegal, all console makers must provide Native SDK for hobbyists (be it sanboxed or not).

      • f4f4f4f4 says:

        Clearly, you fail to understand. How would the removal of YouTube and Near save RAM? Were they running in the background automatically the entire time the Vita was powered on?

      • Kotomine Kirei says:

        If the RAM availability really increased, then it might mean that they fixed faults in the console’s code.

        I doubt that two programs (one optional) that are not being used would use RAM, unless there was a problem that kept them running even when they were not activated.

    • DarkenLX says:

      near has not been removed yet and may not ever … however youtube will be the should remove welcome park instead of near as welcome park is dumb as heck

  7. Gaze says:

    In other words the ESA doesn’t know what is really going on. I like how they exhibit the ‘fake’ ones, its like they believe everything they read on the internet.

  8. ModChipGuy says:

    Unfortunately what we are given when we buy a game is a License to play the game, and that’s about it. Kinda like a License to drive. It can be taken away, terminated, suspended or pretty much whatever they want. Considering they make their own rules for the License.

    • mlc says:

      They absolutely cannot remove your ability to use content you have purchased without refunding you. If it was tested in court the decision would not be “they always had the ability to steal back the physical item you paid for,” barring certain examples like games that require their server to function. (and that’s obviously reasonable in most cases, since it’s not feasible for them to run their servers forever based upon one time profits)

      • Thrawn says:

        Simple solution to an old problem:
        Do away that server *** and shovel the cost of running a server onto the user!!!
        No need for an in house server which really costs money.

        Ever heard of a dedicated? Mostly older pc games have that option, they also were matchmaking independent.
        Funny thing is, those games are still up and running while newer stuff just disappears.

  9. honesttruth says:

    lets be honest guys – this is only about freegames and other software – being poor shouldnt have to mean obey the laws and rules that the rich are allowed to ignore – and yes we all live only once so boohoo for the greedy antipiraceee *** you all *** on about. i am a proud obtainer of free ones and zeros. im not even going to get into personal opinions other than being proud – thats just the truth. yaypyr acee4 ever!

  10. JM says:

    “Long story short, the US are trying to decide what devices are legal to jailbreak, and videogame consoles are part of the suggested devices.”

    Is this an accurate description of what’s going on? Is it *actually illegal* to run unsigned code on an arbitrary device? Or the illegality in the distribution of tools and knowledge to do so. I have a hard time believing its actually illegal to run unsigned code. I’m no hacker, but aren’t you essentially running unsigned code every time your system crashes due to a buffer overflow? Sure, before the overflow is exploited, the crash isn’t actually doing anything, but isn’t the very reason it’s crashing is due to the overflow getting into key areas of memory?

    • Crzo says:

      Yes sir, you are right. In the United States hacking your device is illegal, the Digital Milenium Copyright Act (DMCA): “It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself.”

      EVEN IF YOU DIDN’T PLAY ILLEGAL GAMES! HACKING IT ITSELF IS ILLEGAL!

      You can look it up on wikipedia.

      • Crzo says:

        This is why they sued Geohotz, he was releasing all his files to the public and allowed the “masses” to do piracy on the PS3.

        But most hackers here are Europeans anyways so the US DMCA don’t apply to their hacks, different countries, different Laws.

    • wololo says:

      Depending on the circumstances, it is usually legal to *work* on a jailbreak for any device. Releasing/sharing the result of your research, on the other hand, is in general illegal, except for exceptions (e.g. phone jailbreaks) which have very precise legal boundaries

  11. arthanis says:

    As I already pointed out in some of my articles, the problem is the EULA all gamers agree when buying any kind of gaming related products. As long as we just tick “I agree” mindlessly, they can do whatever the he** they want.

    What I think could be effective is what a user suggested in one of the comments. To boycott companies that try to take away our every right as consumers. So, if that means give up all consoles and stick only with Steam or whatever, so be it. I bet that one week of no sales would make any of the big ones change their minds.

    • Jack Attack says:

      EULAs are not entirely enforceable or even legal. You can sign away your rights and become someone’s slave but that doesn’t make it a legal, valid contract. They also have no bearing when you make the purchase before agreeing to them. If companies want their cake and eat it too you need to agree to these terms, per game, BEFORE purchase.

      Not the generic EULA and ToS the store provides. Also, they need to stop using the term “buy” and start using “lease” “rent” etc. if they want it all their way.

      The law is more on the consumer side than these *** companies that treat paying customers as criminals. We just need more advocates for the consumer.

    • f4f4f4f4 says:

      Steam has a ridiculous EULA. Try gog.com

    • Kotomine Kirei says:

      Good luck with that.
      The majority of people these days do not seem to care about things like that, unfortunately.

    • Anon says:

      In civilized countries laws > EULAs, that’s why EULAs basically don’t matter. Any limits they impose on my customer rights are overwritten by local laws as stated by local court (regardless of what country and court the Corporation wants me to sue it in by the way).

  12. Xilence says:

    Anyone who took even a few minutes could have figured out that most of those websites are BS.

  13. Jack Attack says:

    The ESA needs to burn to the ground. A bunch of bully pulpits that do nothing of value besides stymie common sense. I just made another donation to the EFF.

  14. EarthwormJim says:

    *** they want ?
    Sorry, but I just don’t understand why they lose their time on things like this ?And how they gonna do to stop hacking smartphones, console and others anyway ???

    If people want to hack their device is it not due to the fact that they won’t buying a memory card 5 time the price than a generic ?!

    Or maybe they just don’t want, like said above, paying one, two or tree time… an other for a pseudo HD remaster ??!!

    Maybe the fact that we don’t want to pay for the half of possibility that has been announced ???!!!

    Or maybe simply the fact that we don’t want to carry 50 physical games every where we go ????!!!!

  15. ErnieBall says:

    Mom look! I’m on the internet!

  16. CPUzX says:

    ESA are so ironic!
    Windows XP?

    Micro$oft don’t support that OS anymore. You don’t even have to be a “hacker” in order to hack into the system anymore. You just need common knowledge and script-kid tools. Talk about irony. Why showcase Windows XP, out of all the possibilities…

  17. Killer10 says:

    Everyone has their own reason for pirating games, even if that reason is stupid.

  18. wth says:

    wololo must have freaked out lol ^^

  19. ProCyoN says:

    As if it would stop us from hacking and microwaving our damn stuffr…. Meh

  20. stevealexanderames says:

    i’m pretty sure that ESA is either a group of angry 13-something old kids who are desperatly trying to get some pirated games to work OR their parents, else there’s literally no way to explain why they think PS3/PS4 “hacks” are real and working… lol

  21. lmao says:

    My opinions..
    Piracy is illegal, no bargain for that.
    In event, hacking should be deemed illegal, all console makers must provide Native SDK for hobbyists (be it sanboxed or not).

  22. Cherry says:

    I would like to drop my opinion in.
    I… don’t like to use the term ‘pirate’. But in any case, I “pirate” things. For several reasons.

    1. I like to try out the game. If I like it, then I go and buy it legally.
    2. I bought it but X happened to it. I’m not giving them my money a second time. I bought it already, so I will download it again.
    3. I bought it on console before realising that the PC version is probably better. Again, I’m not giving them my money a second time.
    4. A slightly more illegal reason, if it was made by a company I don’t like or that’s obviously just trying to sap my money. (cough)sims3(cough)
    5. If the game is no longer available for some reason.
    6. If the game is not available in my country. I live in Australia so I often have to do that.

  23. me says:

    yeah.. plus in australia we pay ten times or more for each and every single bit of crappy software slash tech..
    on a personal note
    downloading things like movies or games or whatever else is just better in every way
    no online requirements,no protection *** etc. plus none of them are worth money
    and i dont even like money – says a lot for todays cruddy stuff eh?

  24. lollypop says:

    good thing the werbkit hack is permanent!

  25. ironysteeth says:

    I think the deal is that we moved away from purchasing game cartridges that were huge on the Super Nintendo platform and that generation to nice tightly packed digital files being sold and downloaded today. No one cared what you did with your Super Nintendo. Now you can download code to your Vita (and Vita’s generation of platforms) and Sony ain’t getting a cut of some of the stuff being downloaded to it. There’s some stuff Sony should get a cut of (like games made by Sony, and software with licensing agreements made with Sony.) Other stuff Sony may contend they should getta cut, but others may have a good point in disagreeing with that contention is truthfully there. It actually exists. I also don’t agree with pirating peeps efforts. But if I want to put Bookr on my vita, or actually put look at pics ordered the way I want in put in folders sequenced I want, I think I should be able to give Sony the finger.

  26. malex says:

    Yes, these witch hunts work wonders. Here I am, a guy that used to buy new consoles after 2 – 3 months, bought about 1 game every 4 – 6 weeks, and ever since the original playstation has had the ability to play backup/pirate games. All that pirating is in the past though, no more pirating for me… well last console I bought was the ps3… last games I bought for a console were Final Fantasy XIII (still haven’t even played it) and Trinity Universe, which I had to buy used since I couldn’t find it anywhere… Oh, BTW F*CK YOU gamestop for making me pay $55 for the game just because it was rare, I hope the chain is happy with the amount of business they’ve gotten from me since, but I digress.

    The point I’m trying to make is that before sony went after graf I would buy consoles, buy games, buy accessories for the console, but after that I’ve only bought games for my PC, mainly humble bundles, so screw sony and screw nintendo, and the day when more of the PC games are available in linux, screw microsoft as well.

    Maybe I’ll go to the sony store, buy a ps4 and return it the same day, when they ask why, I’ll just say: “I don’t agree with the ToS”

  27. Sensei says:

    Well when u make an amazing handheld like the vita then have to pay a good chunk of cash for it, the memory cards, then the games, then they just let it die while ur stuck with it not being able to do much the least you can do is play backups of older games, emulators etc to get some money worth out of it…People that buy games are gonna buy games anyway and people that pirate are gonna pirate if they can..that’s not gonna change. They need to focus more on bring new content and improvements in updates and such instead of spending no telling how much money and man hours to patch a small little hole that allows us to use our brick for something more than a brick.

  28. IDC says:

    “Smealum gets the spotlight for being a corporate ***” is what I read.

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