Native PS Vita homebrew vs Javascript, where is the limit? (a rant. Kind of)

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41 Responses

  1. Rayes says:

    First

  2. Maxorq says:

    > Does it do things that would not be possible on a non-hacked Vita?

    Um, wouldn’t PlayStation Mobile work?

    • lmao says:

      Yeah this exploit still similar to CIL to some extent.. CIL does have native runtime library but user code is in managed mode. I hope pure-native exploir could be achieved soon. That will make my “porting” life easier because most of my codes are in C++. heck yeah, i itching to run all my tools in my vita 🙂

    • reaper666 says:

      yes, but that would be using sony’s signing and app dev not native exploit commands.

  3. solidsnake says:

    I am the End User!
    Wololo, people are spoiled with new tech nowadays from phones and tablet. They have very little patience. Unlike me. I refuse to buy a smartphone. Waste. I have all the patience in the world to wait. I came from the generation of having to make special plans on a night out to go to the video store to rent a VCR and a VHS movie and popcorn. Only info we had was picture on the NES game box. We had no internet or Netflix or Smartphone. So I know how to wait for something great. I have been waiting for a native hack ever since the Vita was released. Whats a little while longer going to matter yo.

    • warfaren says:

      Great post man!
      I wish the world could slow down a little bit, even just for a few days for us to catch our breath…

    • Gikero says:

      Same. I’ve been waiting ever so patiently. I have a Vita with Uno on 2.02. I can’t wait to see what the Vita can do, once the community gets it open. Such a great, little device. Thinking about buying a second system so I can play newer games, but I am fine with waiting. The amount of entertainment I got out of messing with my PSP makes it worth waiting for.

    • Mizu says:

      Agree completely. No need to rush for new stuff or complain if it seems to be going ‘slowly’. We’ll get there eventually, and any progress is good progress. Frankly I find the Pong thing people got working amazing, considering all the effort which went into it.

    • wilfredo benitez says:

      same here i been waiting for quite a bit but im willing to keep waiting. so much hope…. so much potential…..

    • keinszig says:

      I thoroughly agree with you. As they say, good things come to those who wait.
      I come from the same generation as well, and while I have a smartphone I haven’t really done anything “smart” with it.

  4. ss4gogeta069 says:

    Ok, so I realize this isn’t “groudbreaking” but stop and think for a minute,naysayers. In a year or two, when we have a fully functional, working CFW for Vita, I will be the first to turn around and say that if it weren’t for this pong game, we wouldn’t have it. Rome wasn’t built in a day. While I am somewhere in between a hacker and the end user, I am much, much closer to the end user. This is a much more amazing breakthrough than any end user realizes. Anyone that discounts this is only jealous that they didn’t come up with it first. Wololo, you most certainly are like me in the way you carefully choose your words. Nothing misleading there. They just see what they want. Hats off to all of you. Especially Wololo bc without you 99% of us wouldn’t know a CFW from an asshat!

  5. Yatto says:

    That was a nice rant. Thanks for every little step. And this Pong demo is worth a $20 PSN gift in my opinion. That’s the spirit !

  6. Yifan Lu says:

    I thought mr.gas’s dir dumping trick was a good example of “small but solid progress” because it’s another small bit of knowledge that may generate interest and farther exploration. However, this pong game is just a nice demo. Let’s not lie to ourself and say this will help hacking at all. It does nothing new. It uses existing tools in a cool way. It’s like if I draw a picture in ms paint. The picture may be a masterpiece but it’s not going to help anyone find a vulnerability in Windows. This isn’t even a matter of creating an sdk, because webkit can never be used for “actual” homebrew in the traditional sense (more powerful than psm. Emulators and stuff for example).

    There’s a chasm between what devs find exciting and what users find exciting. Devs like neat tricks like the dir dumping or pkg installer. Users like flashy demos like hello world and spinning cubes.

    That being said, I knew that Wololo does not have the same opinion and that the winner deserves their prize because they met the critieria that was set. However, there has been a reluctance or lack of attention towards setting higher criteria. There is a certain sub forum that reminds us of this 😉

    • n00b81 says:

      Yeah, unfortunately the emphasis of the ‘hack’ was like 90% Javascript… and as that aspect of using the SDK gets emphasized even more… the less valuable the ‘research’ is in terms of getting closer to native progress.

      That being said… barnabe42 was clear from the beginning.. unfortunately he’s getting the heat of all the people crying ‘fake!’ due to all the various vita sites monetizing off his demo…

  7. Crzo says:

    Yeah, this is like the people b*tching about eCFW not being fun. That everyone moved on with the PSP lol

    I love it, and love everything you guys do. But is really sad how people get all this information and tutorials for FREE yet b*tch that they want native vita games.

  8. kevinalbis says:

    everything begins with small streps :3…

  9. Stanislav says:

    What is only psp game?

  10. DarkDante says:

    i bought my vita 2nd hand online after my android psp knockoff died, wololo’s website has been my vita bible, thanks to u i have Talkman 3.18 tn-v and the ps1 loader. with a 64gb mem card i feel this is the most amazing handheld gaming experience available. every little bit of native hack news is good, and the guy with the pong game should totally get the PSN code!

  11. Aodrulez says:

    A sensible & mature post. I’ve been following this board for a while since I got my PS Vita & must say, while the breakthroughs are achieved slowly, you’ve made quite some progress as a team. Keep up the spirit & share some more technical details so that n00bs like me can contribute 😉

  12. lollypop says:

    really?
    really stop this nonsense about native naieve vita’s !!!

    what needs to be done is stop this infantile justice league in my country.
    they say sick and free
    or healthy and imprisioned.

    as a result i can buy a game in a store.
    i cant play this game however whenever i launch one or get into playing mode…
    the system auto halts and stops … i even have plus.

    really nopw is the time to collaborate what ve learned from 3.55 and come forwards
    as a ps3 cfw front that is in play … thats all advertisement thers about it.

    heck i cant even link a database … not allowed …

  13. Acid_Snake says:

    When it comes to the Vita, the small things are what will eventually lead to its break so it is dumb to undervalue them.

    • omnipotent says:

      Well said wololo and acid snake, by the way good to see you back, I appreciate all the hard work everyone does for the scene. I used to program a basic when I was ten on an Apple two e. I have no clue into c plus and tried to pick it up in spare time, but sadly at 40 I will leave that to the young ones. Many thanks for every ones free time endeavors.

      • DarkDante says:

        haha i used to program my first games (intro screens mostly) on C64 basic, wasnt much but man i loved that stuff

        • omnipotent says:

          Programmed chose your own adventure books, a snake through a maze, and data programs related to scientific equations which helped in college on ti82. But yeah it was fun to program a long time ago, all my friends had c64s, I was only one with two e and one friend had the expensive two gs.

  14. dyay-em says:

    I am torn between updating and holding on to tn-v. 🙁

  15. gunblade says:

    Thks bro. So I finally got a new laptop. now I jus got to get an.ader vita so. So cool. My bad again.

  16. pirateinterest says:

    if native vita hack releses, lets minecraft

  17. Lucas Soares says:

    Waiting for another exploit game to be released or custom firmware update just like ps3 without the need of an exploit game.

  18. Brandon says:

    Hey Wololo I would love to blog some stories about the scene, not so much on hacking but more like ideas and stories.

  19. patches says:

    In my opinion this is not native due to the fact that its sandboxed with the browser all your doing is running it from a back door your not running it from the house

  20. meysam25 says:

    yes it is cool and it is better then nothing

  21. reaper666 says:

    having controls down is great huge even why wouldn’t anyone be excited about it. and pong even that’s cool. great native homebrew

  22. dyay-em says:

    Torn between updating aand keeping tnv on 3.18

  23. wowo says:

    worst native hack ever it doesnt leave to anythiing
    at all

  24. G4nz says:

    I understand that Vita’s hacking scene is not moving anywhere. This because Vita isn’t interesting enough device for people, and it’s getting older each day. Next year about Vita would remember only hardcore gamers or true Sony adepts, who blind enough to understand, that mobile devices(smartphones, tablets…) are powerful enough to run pc games, or emulate anything. I’m not saying, that people should throw their vitas away in garbage, I’m telling, that this “interesting” device isn’t worth wasting our time waiting for some miracle. This peace of sh*t is abandoned even by it’s makers. I’m really tried to believe. I believed that someday I can run ps2 isos on this beautiful oled screen, or use some good homebrews… Just saying, that i’m trully disappointed, this is my opinion about the situation. Getting all my money and buying good, powerful smartphone, iPhone for example – this is where all the fun is.
    Sorry for bad grammar, Not English speaker

    • softwareandhardwarefansinceitallstarted says:

      in the vitas defence i would just like to say it crashes less often than other hardware/software combos, for example these iphone/ipad/ipods of which i’ve owned every model – crashes are VERY common in every single software i have tried, thats 100’s of thousands of games/media players/file managers/you name it – i try everything, i have yet to use software on ANY version of ios that isn’t prone to crashing, and i mean almost EVERY single time i use the things. and b4 you go and say i mustnt look after my vices – i do , itreat them as if they were made of million dollar paper. but and i must say this – it is not only istuff – every device/software combo on this planet is prone to crashing. the peeps making this stuff really dont seem to care though- probably a profit/greed thing. just a quick thought on the subjuct thats been an awful problem since hardware/software became houshold products – definitely truth, not opinion based.

  25. Tony Stark says:

    We should have an Xprize for the person or team or people who finally root the PS Vita. How about that Wololo? Put a shopping cart on your website for this, and watch the money come in for it.

  26. DinoX says:

    Well, nice read indeed. Haters and critics, stop wasting time and do better if you can.