Are backwards compatible PS3’s a timebomb? Guide to taking good care of your system.
How many of you remember all the hassle that came with backwards compatible PS3s suffering from YLoD or laser malfunction?
The question here is obviously, are all of them like this? what are the factors that contribute to this? is it preventable? can it be fixed permanently? I’ll guide you through the matter using my own personal experience and some research.
The 60GB PS3 is perhaps the best version of the system ever made in terms of overall beauty and feature set. It has 4 USB ports instead of just two, Memory Card readers, it plays Super Audio CDs (but tbh I don’t know who plays these anymore) and it sports full Backwards Compatibility with PS2 games, upscaled in HD format, giving your old games a brand new look without having to buy all the HD re-releases. And it has a more shiny look than any other PS3:

But with all these nice features comes a dark side to all of this. The systems were said to be doomed when customers all over the world reported laser malfunction and their PS3s dying with the infamous YLoD. For this I’ve made a guide for you to follow if you want to keep your precious system like day one, to do so I’ll cover three main things: what are the causes of the problems, how they can be prevented and how they can be fixed once they have happened.
YLoD, what is it?
When a hardware malfuntion that prevents the ps3 from booting normally occurs, both the red and green light of the ps3 turn on at the same time, creating a yellowish light that indicates a serious problem has happened. A few system beeps are also heard, and in the case of some models, the fan goes on full speed for a second. When all of the happens, the system shuts down directly to prevent further damage.
YLoD, why it happens?
Two uncommon, yet fully possible reasons could be a faulty hard drive, if the hard drive has a damaged sector with important data in it, it may prevent the system from booting, the other possible, yet not so common, problem would be a faulty power supply unit. If the supply unit doesn’t work well and it doesn’t give the ps3 the power it needs, a ylod might occur. While it’s always good to check these two things before jumping to a conclusion, the most common cause of ylod is by far a faulty connection between the GPU and the motherboard, mainly caused by overheating.
Why does the PS3 overheat?
Just like ylod, overheating has many causes as there are many factors involved in the process of cooling down the system, but these are the ones that fail most often:
– the air vents where the system takes cool air in and throws hot air out
– the fan itself
– the thermal paste that connects the CPU and GPU to the heat sink
Whenever one of these three things fail, the process of cooling down the system is dramatically dropped and the system heats up more and more quickly.
What should I do to prevent this?
As we’ve mentioned above, you have to take good care of all three major cooling systems that the ps3 has: the fan, the air vents and the thermal paste.
Every year, specially when summer starts, open up your ps3 and check that all these are working correctly, follow this small guide to check each of them out:
– The fan: it’s pretty easy to know if the fan is fully working or not as there is a fan test available on the PS3, sadly the 60GB models don’t have it, so your only guess at this point is to listen to the fan when playing a graphically-intense game, Does it change speeds as it should? does it make a lot of noise as it should?
– The thermal paste: gently try to separate the ps3 motherboard from the heat sink, if they stick together strong then the thermal paste is still in working condition, if they separate easily, then they need to be replaced. Take into consideration that these ps3s used a bad quality thermal paste and that is a reason for their failure rate. Don’t make the same mistake Sony did, buy a strong, good quality, thermal paste, artic silver is always recommended. Remember that you have to evenly apply the paste on all of the surface of both processing chips, if you don’t know how to do this, there are a lot of youtube videos you can follow.
– The air vents: this one is quite simple, just clean all the dust that gathers over time in the air vents, make sure nothing stands in the way between cool air and the ps3’s internals.
Video Guide to open up a 60GB PS3:
Video Guide for applying thermal paste:
What should I do if I already have a YLoD?
Most people will tell you to do a reflow, which is considerably cheaper than any other methods, but DON’T. A reflow is uncontrollable heat, you may temporarily fix the issue, but it’ll eventually come back, and you can always break other important components. The ultimate fix for the ylod is a reballing, as it substitute the poor lead-free solder that Sony has to use with a more heat-resistant leaded solder. There’s always a probability of it failing again after a reball, but it’s considerably lower than after a reflow. Reballing isn’t cheap though, it usually costs around 80€, but it’s totally worth it considering that the PS3 has a chance to live forever after the reballing (if you take care of it as I’ve mentioned).
To summarize
While some times the ylod is unpreventable, most of the time is fully preventable if you do a full maintenance of your PS3 every year to make sure everything is in full working condition. As I said before, I recommend doping this maintenance when summer strikes, as this is when PS3s overheat most. If you take good care of the system, it’ll take good care of you.
Laser problems, what are they?
Laser problems occur when the PS3 is not able to read one, two or all types of discs, preventing you from playing games.
What are the causes?
It isn’t exactly clear why BC models have laser problems, there can be a lot of speculation, some based on fact, other plain stupid, here are some of them presented with the fact they are based on and the truth behind some of them:
– There is a chip right under the laser drive used for ps2 games, this chip burns the laser.
The Fact: it is a fact that the PS2’s GPU is right under the laser drive, and this GPU is only active with PS2 games.
The Truth: we are talking about a PS2 GPU here, it doesn’t produce nearly as much heat as the PS3’s does, and it’s being cooled by a huge fan as opposed to the tiny fan found on PS2’s that had to cool both the CPU and GPU. Besides, for newer consoles, the PS3’s GPU is the one right under the laser unit, this one produces a lot more heat, and it doesn’t seem as these laser unit are affected as much.
Conclusion: Not a Cause in itself if the laser is in normal working conditions.
– The laser gets dirty.
The Fact: it is a known fact that lasers do malfunction when dirty, and sometimes a simple clean with some cotton and rubbing alcohol might do the trick (and I for one always recommend to attempt this fix before anything).
The Truth: the PS3’s laser is enclosed in a space where it’s hard for dust to enter, and discs themselves are cleaned by the drive itself when they enter.
However, if dust accumulates over time (in the course of one or two years), it’s harder for the laser to read the disc and thus the lase has to force itself, which possibly causes it to eventually die.
Conclusion: The gathering of dust is a possible entrance point for other causes to strike the laser more severely than in normal working conditions.
– Playing DVDs burn the laser.
The Fact: this one is related to the PS2’s GPU. People either claim that is the GPU that burns the laser, or that DVDs are the cause due to the fact that most people encounter laser problems after playing PS2 games a lot.
The Truth: while it’s a possibility, it isn’t exact science and can’t be taken as the sole cause for laser malfunction. Just know that the system was intentionally made to play PS2 games, they must have done some sort of testing by stressing the unit to the max, had they found a correlation between PS2 games and laser faults they probably would have fixed it.
Conclusion: Could be, but unlikely
– Playing movies (DVDs or Blu-Ray) burn the laser.
The Fact: it is true that when playing a movie the laser is constantly working as opposed to playing games, where the laser stops if inactive.
The Truth: as with above, the system was designed for such task and I’m pretty sure they ran tests on it. We can’t fully discard this, but we can’t take it fully seriously either.
Conclusion: Could be.
– Older units have only one laser while newer ones have two
The Fact: this one is true. Older laser models have one laser eye for all media playback while newer models have two: one for Blu-Ray and the other for CD-DVD.
The Truth: This one could be the actual case. Maybe the fact that one eye has to read everything stresses it out most. It’s also possible Sony did this change because it’s cheaper to make a CD-DVD laser and BD-only laser rather than one laser to read everything. Could have Sony killed two birds with one shot?
Conclusion: this is the most likely cause for the malfunction, a combination of all of the above on a laser unit that has to do everything in one eye probably causes the laser to eventually die.


Maybe the dual laser setup is cheaper and more reliable than the single laser setup.
What can I do to prevent laser malfunction?
Unlike YLoD, laser malfunction doesn’t have an encapsulated cause that you can closely monitor. My conclusion is that, like with YLoD, you should periodically check the laser unit and clean it with some cotton and rubbing alcohol so that nothing stands in the way of the laser and the disc.
Video Guide for cleaning the PS3 laser:
What can I do if my laser already died?
You can attempt to clean it and adjust the POT (there are youtube videos for this). If nothing works, then get a replacement, they are cheap and videos all over youtube show you how to do it.
Video Guide for replacing the PS3 laser unit:
Overall conclusion:
PS3 systems are a lot more advanced than what we saw with the PS2, and thus they are more delicate and require a periodical maintenance. With the info gathered ibn this guide you should now be able to take good care of your system so you ought to enjoy it for many years to come, specially if, like me, you collect consoles, and a BC PS3 is always a good addition to a collection, or simply, a great console for people who have lots of PS2 games around and like to have everything in one place.
Also know that even if this guide was aimed at older PS3 models, you should also follow it for newer models, they are new but you never know when they might start failing like older units.
Thanks so much.. btw, when would the vita can read vita/psp backups?
Not for a long time, if ever.
Vita is dead 🙁
Sure, an year ago you could’ve said that.
Now, with the awesome games like Ys and FF coming, I HIGHLY doubt it.
Publishers are moving on to the Vita. Just give the console some more time.
Amen.
You serious about Ys and a rerelease of ff10 would save the Vita?
pssshh..
my Vita is still at the corner, doing its thing, dust collecting.
not a fan of FF series ever, but, the main reason for me to get a vita was for YS, imported from japan months ago
Are you guys serious? Phantasy star online 2 and soul sacrfice are much better games than YS…..
What’s the surprise? people wasting their life on VHBL’s just to play emulators from the 80’s (which todays every smartphone could play anyway). No one wants to do the real job. CFW…and i dont blame them. Why do it when Xbox One and PS4 is around the corner? and those have a biiiig future. Vita has nothing. Another 2-3 iPhone generations and Vita will be antique sht hardware.
And with SONY offering almost 0 support. Ultra *** apps, no interesting features at all,etc.
Locked PS Vita=DEAD. CFW is not just about piracy, it’s about awesome new apps and stuff made by the community, to take advantage of it’s powerful hardware. FREE!
if ur vita is completely dead its the battery
I never had a problem with my old Nintendo 64, xDD.
This modern consoles…. 😀
im a victim of ylod … i kept the unit in a cabinet which was fine for me coz i left the door open and i had a clip on fan that i would turn on that kept it ice cold in there … when it happend was when i went to work and my parents were staying in that room and they closed the doors… unclipped the fan and kept bumping the remote (from what i was told) and so the unit would turn on …off…on…off …building up heat and then pop…. i get a message “it wont turn on the light turns yellow and shuts off” …i was like (cartman voice) “sun of a beeeech”
I’ve had my phat 60gb PS3 since 2007. Only had to replace the PSU in all these years. My console does get VERY hot though but that’s about it.
if your console gets REALLY hot outside with little fan activity then it’s a good sign, if it requires a lot of fan activity, and the outside air is not as hot as it normally gets, that’s a bad sign.
I don’t even have this model and I’m still scared of overheating, just because I really don’t want to have to open it up. My house is a real mess and I really doubt that an anti-static strap could completely prevent me from breaking something… also my hands aren’t particularly steady, so while I’m generally fine with computers, I’m not too fond of opening laptops, much less gaming systems that aren’t really designed to be opened and cleaned/fixed by the user.
I don’t even have this fancy older model of PS3, and I’m still terrified of overheating. My house isn’t particularly clean, so I worry that even with an antistatic strap I’ll mess something up. Computers aren’t too terrifying, but even a laptop is designed to have some parts swapped by a user, whereas the PS3 requires opening the entire thing.
If I had a “clean” room without carpet and dust, then I might be less terrified of opening consoles. Also, the PS3 seems positively delicate compared to older generation consoles, as they could mostly get dusty and even be modded with little risk of a serious mistake. PS3 just seems too fragile to me, although obviously I could probably open one up and fix it with enough effort. (and I’ve done some other stuff that required “clean room” conditions, and managed it okay, though I think that’s about as trustworthy as the ability to fix/change computer parts without static protection – it works without financial loss except when it doesn’t)
“PS3 systems are a lot more
advanced than what we saw with
the PS2, and thus they are more
delicate and require a periodical
maintenance.” Pshh…admit it PS 2 was frikkin badass. Had one for years, I had ZERO problems. as in- PS 2 is brought to you today by the number ZERO. But hey new consoles are the *** right? can’t wait for PS 4…not. Maybe progress isn’t always a good thing. You can’t improve perfection yknow.
not? tell me sir what year is it? cause I think that phone booth might be a time machine >__>
BTW progress is good but change for the sake of change is not
From experience, I can speculate and assume that making the PS3 read DVDs and BDs affects the laser’s lifespan.
My thinking is based on my experience years ago when I was burning DVDs and CDs a lot. I noticed my DVD-Writer wears off too fast. I have replaced my DVD-Writer a couple of times. But when I acquired multiple writers and allot each to a single purpose (1 DVD Writing, 1 CD Writing, 1 CD/DVD Reading), they lived significantly longer. So maybe making the laser process different formats (or medium) affects it technically. But still, I’m maybe wrong.
Great advice on how to preserve the old backwards compatible 60 gb PS3. I have one l.. I don’t use it much, but I plan to try and take care of it closely now because of overheating. Thanks, Acid Snake.
Haha, did you write this cause of that bit we were talking about earlier? D: Either way, the biggest problem i’ve seen with reballing is i don’t know anyone in the US i can trust with the job..I’ve been a part of some private trackers with buy/sell/trade forums, and even the users who do modchips and such say that reballing is something not a lot of people mess with due to the precision required..Really would be nice, cause i’d love to use my PS3 again. It’s a beautiful system and it’s a shame that it’s collecting as much dust as my vita ;_;
more or less. I wrote this cause I’ve experienced both YLoD and laser problems on other systems and both were do to lack of maintenance on my part. The latter one was still in guarantee so I got another refurbished 60GB model, which did had maintenance, but the guarantee is already out and the system had already started to build up dust and the thermal paste was already dried, so I opened it up, cleaned everything and applied new (and good quality) thermal paste. My PS3 now makes much less noise than before (even being in the summer).
Well, it’s nice to see these articles, never hurts to let users know about this stuff..I tried all the maintenance stuff and more to no avail (as mentioned in the other thread), but maybe mine is just a rare occurrence..I guess the best thing i could do is find someone to reball..Heck, if it was only 100ish dollars here for a reball i’d cry.
I actually just completed fully restoring an 80 gig phat(software backwards compatible) PS3 ,a coworkers wife spiked it at the ground after his son was mouthing off. Disk drive need replacing as well as the power PCB(the power eject buttons) grand total 75 bucks on ebay (25 was shipping alone). Replaced thermal paste got a new housing for it from a friends ylod 60 gig, and bam a classic gem IMO. Those thing are built like tanks and produce about as much heat too, I suggest having it place horizontal with a couple DVD cases/books to elevate up,they produce a lot of heat that escapes from the vents around the edges that are oddly enough pointed downwards… Now I just need a progskeet or software(doesn’t exist but I can wish) downgrade and I’ll be set. Good read thanks snake
I’d doubt that the single lens on the laser has anything to do with it to be honest, I own a repair shop and I have changed more dual lens lasers then single lens.
Dvd playing does stress the Laser more so it could big a factor but saying that, when the dual lens fails,usually the PS3 can play DVD’s meaning just the Bluray lens is dead.
Dust will always get into the drive no matter what and also people smoking in front of the machine doesn’t help.
I think its a combination of Dust, Smoke and Scratched Disks that are the cause.
It’s funny, I’m always the lucky one when it comes to buying consoles. They Never break on me till way past expected life function. My PS2 lasted 8 years, my step father wanted a backwards-comp PS3 so I found one on E-bay for him and he doesn’t care it and it’s….well cover in dust to the point you could call it dirt; and yet it still runs, has a loud fan noise tho. Anyway I’m just really lucky, I drop my handhelds like anyone else and they never break, they always land on the backside.
nice article man!and nice guide! can ps3 super slim being jailbreak?need to know…cech400xxx
No super slims can’t be jailbreaked or downgrade look into ODEs those apparently work with super slims, don’t know if they’re released yet tho
The 3k3y pata is released (fat till 2k, maybe some 2k5), the sata is also released but they stopped selling it due to a bug in the pcb/fw with certain game/console pairings. Waiting for a fix.
Keep in mind the 3k3y claims to have homebrew compat on slim and superslim without the need for extracting the bd key.
The alternative, the cobra ode is a one in all chip (pata and sata version in one) and also the ripper is included on that board, they also claim to have homebrew compat and work without downgrading to extract the bd key. The cobra is not released yet.
So your choice, but both heavily rely on exploits IF they work without key extraction.
My preference is the cobra but I will get both after trustworthy reviews pop up, I already bought a second 3k for system cloning and then playing offline with cobra/3k3y.
Thanks for this guide. I have an old 60GB PS3 that ran fine for years, then the combination of me not opening it up, and vacuuming out the dust, and running it all of the time killed it off. Except I got a RLOD and not a YLOD. Not sure what the difference is with the light codes, and which is worse. Anyways, the reason it has sat in its box for years, and I have yet to get it fixed, is I don’t want it reflowed, I want it reballed. And I’ve been told that it’s gonna be a b*tch to find somebody in my area that will do that (I live in a major city in the U.S., so I don’t really understand that). And I’m def not sending it to Sony (as it broke on FW 3.50 IIRC, and I plan on modding it), and they’ll probably just reflow it, or send me back an inferior model console…either of which will be on current FW. So I need to hunt down some shop in my area that will reball the ***.
had my A01 since launch for my birthday and i didnt have problems until I had moved into an my new home in 2011… was playing TW Golf 2011 and my wife sat on the controller (game was on CFW 3.41 hdd with ipod dongle on pause) and the system double beeped and shut off… i oven-reflowed the system and it worked for 8 months, then again for 6 months, and again for 4 months, 3 months, 2 months, 1 month, 3 weeks, 2 weeks and then I gave up. I had been looking for 2 years to find someone to reball it with leaded solder, but wasn’t lucky. I have a bunch of slims now, but i miss the original PHAT’s capabilities. The article is good as a normal day to day keep it safe rule, but i would suggest the following for those who still have one based on what i have read online (but did not heed):
1. open up the PS3 and under the FAN, poke PC style holes in a round pattern the size of the fan. This is said to cool the system almost 10 degrees Celsius.
2. Use Arctic Silver thermal paste (I DID do this one)
3. make sure you apply or re-apply the heat absorbing pads on the mobo when you put it back together (go online and search for pics on where to put them. i did not do this)
4. get the 19 blade Japanese fan (did not do this)
5. make sure you have the better cooler running PSU (search online for which model to get/have)
I am VERY tempted to rebuy a refurbished 60GB model for $140 Canadian, but i dont “need” it anymore as I have 3 ps3 slims now…. unless someone knows where i can get it reballed professionally in the Toronto area or at least from a reputable place.
Are you still looking for it to get fixed?
if yo made patapon 2 demo into a exploit how com you can’t make the full game into a exploit
We did. 3 years ago. The exploit was patched a long time ago.
I’ve owned my 60gb launch since 2008 and it is going on 5 years strong. 4 of which have been either cfw or psfreedom. Amazing machine, it is our primary media device.. Bluray movies, streaming, games sometimes even (haven’t been grabbed by any recent titles).
I am glad to read this. I thought i was the only one taking time to care for my checha ps3.i recommend that the ps3 be set vertically and away from walls or corners as the fan will spin out hot air and if kept near objects the objects will obsorb the heat thus building more heat to bounce back into the ps3 equalling a RLOD YLOD.
Soon the ps vitas algorithm will be figured out for full exploit cant wait to *** on sony fir sc*** all product owners.
I had my PS3 for 4 years now and NOT once have I had any problems, because I take very good care of it along with my other consoles and PC. Not many people have the time to do this or afraid of messing something up.
I had ylod after 2 years after using it, did reball, worked for almost a year, then reflow lasted for3 months, nowim on slim andconsidering to reball agains
My belief, even since I was a kid with the old NES, and Apple IIc, its all about care… cleaning, placement, and whether or not dust collects around that area of placement. I have 2 bkwd compatible PS3’s and have never had any problems. They get warm as heck, but not burning hot to the point of melting stuff… But that’s just my experiences with electronics… my original day of release NES, still works to this day, as do all my other consoles, and I can still fire up some really old nostalgia on the Apple IIc, playing games like Space Quarks, and Apple Trek (Star Trek), or even to write my own program in A Basic, and Int. Basic… I baby the heck out of my stuff, since it costs a lot to purchase… Every 3 Months or so, Ill open them up, and blow, vacuum the inside, and wipe down the casing… That every thing, right down to the PSP and 3DS… Care, is my answer, might not be the way everyone else does it, but everything, I own, and have owned, still works…
I do reballs on these consoles, and I have to admit, they’re the trickiest consoles to reball. If you go even slightly too hot, the RAM bricks bleed, but if you don’t take them to just a few degrees before that point, they don’t come off. All in all, it’s a huge pain. I much prefer Xbox 360s for reballing. Of course, that’s just to take the things off. Once they come off, it’s all well and fine, practically effortless, actually. But the main point I’m trying to make here, is that you won’t find a lot of people offering this service, no matter where you are. I’ve ended up servicing consoles from much further away than I’d have expected on occasion, so expect that you may have to send them away to be reballed. Either way, it’s an extensive process, so unless you have a bunch of spare time and money to throw at learning how to do it, you’re going to want to send your machine away to be fixed. Also, most of us that do will check to see if the machine has been opened or serviced before, and either reject the machine or charge extra to repair it, so keep that in mind before you pull out a heat gun. 😉
man oh man I remember when my ps3 first gen from 05 went out. the laser eye died ad the power supply over heated ad you had to keep a fan on it. I spent 100 bucks o it to have it all repaired worth it too and I still have it as of today works like a beauty. I even swapped out my 60gb hard drive and ad put a 320gb hard drive in it. and it still plays all the ps games 🙂 *** amazig but whe it has problems like this or the ylofd don’t throw it away its worth fixing ad getting it repaired. and the vita might be dead but they are releasing a new one this summer with boraderlands 2 on it!! so its still alive
The New One actually is not as good as the first release as the screen is inferior to it.
I have a backwards compatible 80GB PS3 working great until laser went dead. bought a new one, worked for a few months and died again. got a 3rd laser and it didnt work. Only plays ps2 games. Got a new blu ray drive after troubleshooting. nope. same thing. any suggestions? I’ve updated, wiped the hard drive, restored, tried all the tricks on the online forums, but they all point to a faulty laser. My laser and drive are new. Is it my GPU?
Question:is it possible to put 2 lasers in like the slim and super slim with out removing anything such as the ps2 chip?
My 60gb 4usb card reading ps3 still works somehow. I have ran into a few ps2 games, like Sega tennis that doesn’t work.