Are backwards compatible PS3’s a timebomb? Guide to taking good care of your system.

Acid_Snake

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45 Responses

  1. sdf says:

    Thanks so much.. btw, when would the vita can read vita/psp backups?

  2. :( says:

    Vita is dead 🙁

    • AMD says:

      Sure, an year ago you could’ve said that.

      Now, with the awesome games like Ys and FF coming, I HIGHLY doubt it.

      Publishers are moving on to the Vita. Just give the console some more time.

      • kuagelo says:

        Amen.

      • thediamante says:

        You serious about Ys and a rerelease of ff10 would save the Vita?

        pssshh..

        my Vita is still at the corner, doing its thing, dust collecting.

        • DongsMBM says:

          not a fan of FF series ever, but, the main reason for me to get a vita was for YS, imported from japan months ago

          • KizumiK says:

            Are you guys serious? Phantasy star online 2 and soul sacrfice are much better games than YS…..

    • 110706 says:

      What’s the surprise? people wasting their life on VHBL’s just to play emulators from the 80’s (which todays every smartphone could play anyway). No one wants to do the real job. CFW…and i dont blame them. Why do it when Xbox One and PS4 is around the corner? and those have a biiiig future. Vita has nothing. Another 2-3 iPhone generations and Vita will be antique sht hardware.

      And with SONY offering almost 0 support. Ultra *** apps, no interesting features at all,etc.

      Locked PS Vita=DEAD. CFW is not just about piracy, it’s about awesome new apps and stuff made by the community, to take advantage of it’s powerful hardware. FREE!

    • greg says:

      if ur vita is completely dead its the battery

  3. Obito says:

    I never had a problem with my old Nintendo 64, xDD.
    This modern consoles…. 😀

  4. compccs says:

    im a victim of ylod … i kept the unit in a cabinet which was fine for me coz i left the door open and i had a clip on fan that i would turn on that kept it ice cold in there … when it happend was when i went to work and my parents were staying in that room and they closed the doors… unclipped the fan and kept bumping the remote (from what i was told) and so the unit would turn on …off…on…off …building up heat and then pop…. i get a message “it wont turn on the light turns yellow and shuts off” …i was like (cartman voice) “sun of a beeeech”

  5. CookyLUFC says:

    I’ve had my phat 60gb PS3 since 2007. Only had to replace the PSU in all these years. My console does get VERY hot though but that’s about it.

    • Acid_Snake says:

      if your console gets REALLY hot outside with little fan activity then it’s a good sign, if it requires a lot of fan activity, and the outside air is not as hot as it normally gets, that’s a bad sign.

  6. mlc says:

    I don’t even have this model and I’m still scared of overheating, just because I really don’t want to have to open it up. My house is a real mess and I really doubt that an anti-static strap could completely prevent me from breaking something… also my hands aren’t particularly steady, so while I’m generally fine with computers, I’m not too fond of opening laptops, much less gaming systems that aren’t really designed to be opened and cleaned/fixed by the user.

  7. mlc says:

    I don’t even have this fancy older model of PS3, and I’m still terrified of overheating. My house isn’t particularly clean, so I worry that even with an antistatic strap I’ll mess something up. Computers aren’t too terrifying, but even a laptop is designed to have some parts swapped by a user, whereas the PS3 requires opening the entire thing.

    If I had a “clean” room without carpet and dust, then I might be less terrified of opening consoles. Also, the PS3 seems positively delicate compared to older generation consoles, as they could mostly get dusty and even be modded with little risk of a serious mistake. PS3 just seems too fragile to me, although obviously I could probably open one up and fix it with enough effort. (and I’ve done some other stuff that required “clean room” conditions, and managed it okay, though I think that’s about as trustworthy as the ability to fix/change computer parts without static protection – it works without financial loss except when it doesn’t)

  8. x-eye says:

    “PS3 systems are a lot more
    advanced than what we saw with
    the PS2, and thus they are more
    delicate and require a periodical
    maintenance.” Pshh…admit it PS 2 was frikkin badass. Had one for years, I had ZERO problems. as in- PS 2 is brought to you today by the number ZERO. But hey new consoles are the *** right? can’t wait for PS 4…not. Maybe progress isn’t always a good thing. You can’t improve perfection yknow.

    • fate6 says:

      not? tell me sir what year is it? cause I think that phone booth might be a time machine >__>

      BTW progress is good but change for the sake of change is not

  9. Anonymous says:

    From experience, I can speculate and assume that making the PS3 read DVDs and BDs affects the laser’s lifespan.

    My thinking is based on my experience years ago when I was burning DVDs and CDs a lot. I noticed my DVD-Writer wears off too fast. I have replaced my DVD-Writer a couple of times. But when I acquired multiple writers and allot each to a single purpose (1 DVD Writing, 1 CD Writing, 1 CD/DVD Reading), they lived significantly longer. So maybe making the laser process different formats (or medium) affects it technically. But still, I’m maybe wrong.

  10. NeonAera says:

    Great advice on how to preserve the old backwards compatible 60 gb PS3. I have one l.. I don’t use it much, but I plan to try and take care of it closely now because of overheating. Thanks, Acid Snake.

  11. Leires says:

    Haha, did you write this cause of that bit we were talking about earlier? D: Either way, the biggest problem i’ve seen with reballing is i don’t know anyone in the US i can trust with the job..I’ve been a part of some private trackers with buy/sell/trade forums, and even the users who do modchips and such say that reballing is something not a lot of people mess with due to the precision required..Really would be nice, cause i’d love to use my PS3 again. It’s a beautiful system and it’s a shame that it’s collecting as much dust as my vita ;_;

    • Acid_Snake says:

      more or less. I wrote this cause I’ve experienced both YLoD and laser problems on other systems and both were do to lack of maintenance on my part. The latter one was still in guarantee so I got another refurbished 60GB model, which did had maintenance, but the guarantee is already out and the system had already started to build up dust and the thermal paste was already dried, so I opened it up, cleaned everything and applied new (and good quality) thermal paste. My PS3 now makes much less noise than before (even being in the summer).

      • Leires says:

        Well, it’s nice to see these articles, never hurts to let users know about this stuff..I tried all the maintenance stuff and more to no avail (as mentioned in the other thread), but maybe mine is just a rare occurrence..I guess the best thing i could do is find someone to reball..Heck, if it was only 100ish dollars here for a reball i’d cry.

  12. lowsnamebrand says:

    I actually just completed fully restoring an 80 gig phat(software backwards compatible) PS3 ,a coworkers wife spiked it at the ground after his son was mouthing off. Disk drive need replacing as well as the power PCB(the power eject buttons) grand total 75 bucks on ebay (25 was shipping alone). Replaced thermal paste got a new housing for it from a friends ylod 60 gig, and bam a classic gem IMO. Those thing are built like tanks and produce about as much heat too, I suggest having it place horizontal with a couple DVD cases/books to elevate up,they produce a lot of heat that escapes from the vents around the edges that are oddly enough pointed downwards… Now I just need a progskeet or software(doesn’t exist but I can wish) downgrade and I’ll be set. Good read thanks snake

  13. Foleyfactor says:

    I’d doubt that the single lens on the laser has anything to do with it to be honest, I own a repair shop and I have changed more dual lens lasers then single lens.
    Dvd playing does stress the Laser more so it could big a factor but saying that, when the dual lens fails,usually the PS3 can play DVD’s meaning just the Bluray lens is dead.
    Dust will always get into the drive no matter what and also people smoking in front of the machine doesn’t help.
    I think its a combination of Dust, Smoke and Scratched Disks that are the cause.

  14. dragonkid6 says:

    It’s funny, I’m always the lucky one when it comes to buying consoles. They Never break on me till way past expected life function. My PS2 lasted 8 years, my step father wanted a backwards-comp PS3 so I found one on E-bay for him and he doesn’t care it and it’s….well cover in dust to the point you could call it dirt; and yet it still runs, has a loud fan noise tho. Anyway I’m just really lucky, I drop my handhelds like anyone else and they never break, they always land on the backside.

  15. muhd isnizal says:

    nice article man!and nice guide! can ps3 super slim being jailbreak?need to know…cech400xxx

    • lowsnamebrand says:

      No super slims can’t be jailbreaked or downgrade look into ODEs those apparently work with super slims, don’t know if they’re released yet tho

      • Thrawn says:

        The 3k3y pata is released (fat till 2k, maybe some 2k5), the sata is also released but they stopped selling it due to a bug in the pcb/fw with certain game/console pairings. Waiting for a fix.
        Keep in mind the 3k3y claims to have homebrew compat on slim and superslim without the need for extracting the bd key.
        The alternative, the cobra ode is a one in all chip (pata and sata version in one) and also the ripper is included on that board, they also claim to have homebrew compat and work without downgrading to extract the bd key. The cobra is not released yet.
        So your choice, but both heavily rely on exploits IF they work without key extraction.
        My preference is the cobra but I will get both after trustworthy reviews pop up, I already bought a second 3k for system cloning and then playing offline with cobra/3k3y.

  16. MadZiontist says:

    Thanks for this guide. I have an old 60GB PS3 that ran fine for years, then the combination of me not opening it up, and vacuuming out the dust, and running it all of the time killed it off. Except I got a RLOD and not a YLOD. Not sure what the difference is with the light codes, and which is worse. Anyways, the reason it has sat in its box for years, and I have yet to get it fixed, is I don’t want it reflowed, I want it reballed. And I’ve been told that it’s gonna be a b*tch to find somebody in my area that will do that (I live in a major city in the U.S., so I don’t really understand that). And I’m def not sending it to Sony (as it broke on FW 3.50 IIRC, and I plan on modding it), and they’ll probably just reflow it, or send me back an inferior model console…either of which will be on current FW. So I need to hunt down some shop in my area that will reball the ***.

  17. jkoiou says:

    had my A01 since launch for my birthday and i didnt have problems until I had moved into an my new home in 2011… was playing TW Golf 2011 and my wife sat on the controller (game was on CFW 3.41 hdd with ipod dongle on pause) and the system double beeped and shut off… i oven-reflowed the system and it worked for 8 months, then again for 6 months, and again for 4 months, 3 months, 2 months, 1 month, 3 weeks, 2 weeks and then I gave up. I had been looking for 2 years to find someone to reball it with leaded solder, but wasn’t lucky. I have a bunch of slims now, but i miss the original PHAT’s capabilities. The article is good as a normal day to day keep it safe rule, but i would suggest the following for those who still have one based on what i have read online (but did not heed):
    1. open up the PS3 and under the FAN, poke PC style holes in a round pattern the size of the fan. This is said to cool the system almost 10 degrees Celsius.
    2. Use Arctic Silver thermal paste (I DID do this one)
    3. make sure you apply or re-apply the heat absorbing pads on the mobo when you put it back together (go online and search for pics on where to put them. i did not do this)
    4. get the 19 blade Japanese fan (did not do this)
    5. make sure you have the better cooler running PSU (search online for which model to get/have)

    I am VERY tempted to rebuy a refurbished 60GB model for $140 Canadian, but i dont “need” it anymore as I have 3 ps3 slims now…. unless someone knows where i can get it reballed professionally in the Toronto area or at least from a reputable place.

  18. if yo made patapon 2 demo into a exploit how com you can’t make the full game into a exploit

  19. Michael says:

    I’ve owned my 60gb launch since 2008 and it is going on 5 years strong. 4 of which have been either cfw or psfreedom. Amazing machine, it is our primary media device.. Bluray movies, streaming, games sometimes even (haven’t been grabbed by any recent titles).

  20. WillyBobo says:

    I am glad to read this. I thought i was the only one taking time to care for my checha ps3.i recommend that the ps3 be set vertically and away from walls or corners as the fan will spin out hot air and if kept near objects the objects will obsorb the heat thus building more heat to bounce back into the ps3 equalling a RLOD YLOD.
    Soon the ps vitas algorithm will be figured out for full exploit cant wait to *** on sony fir sc*** all product owners.

  21. T3CHWOLF says:

    I had my PS3 for 4 years now and NOT once have I had any problems, because I take very good care of it along with my other consoles and PC. Not many people have the time to do this or afraid of messing something up.

  22. duckey420 says:

    I had ylod after 2 years after using it, did reball, worked for almost a year, then reflow lasted for3 months, nowim on slim andconsidering to reball agains

  23. TheHollander says:

    My belief, even since I was a kid with the old NES, and Apple IIc, its all about care… cleaning, placement, and whether or not dust collects around that area of placement. I have 2 bkwd compatible PS3’s and have never had any problems. They get warm as heck, but not burning hot to the point of melting stuff… But that’s just my experiences with electronics… my original day of release NES, still works to this day, as do all my other consoles, and I can still fire up some really old nostalgia on the Apple IIc, playing games like Space Quarks, and Apple Trek (Star Trek), or even to write my own program in A Basic, and Int. Basic… I baby the heck out of my stuff, since it costs a lot to purchase… Every 3 Months or so, Ill open them up, and blow, vacuum the inside, and wipe down the casing… That every thing, right down to the PSP and 3DS… Care, is my answer, might not be the way everyone else does it, but everything, I own, and have owned, still works…

  24. VC says:

    I do reballs on these consoles, and I have to admit, they’re the trickiest consoles to reball. If you go even slightly too hot, the RAM bricks bleed, but if you don’t take them to just a few degrees before that point, they don’t come off. All in all, it’s a huge pain. I much prefer Xbox 360s for reballing. Of course, that’s just to take the things off. Once they come off, it’s all well and fine, practically effortless, actually. But the main point I’m trying to make here, is that you won’t find a lot of people offering this service, no matter where you are. I’ve ended up servicing consoles from much further away than I’d have expected on occasion, so expect that you may have to send them away to be reballed. Either way, it’s an extensive process, so unless you have a bunch of spare time and money to throw at learning how to do it, you’re going to want to send your machine away to be fixed. Also, most of us that do will check to see if the machine has been opened or serviced before, and either reject the machine or charge extra to repair it, so keep that in mind before you pull out a heat gun. 😉

  25. tacklebox says:

    man oh man I remember when my ps3 first gen from 05 went out. the laser eye died ad the power supply over heated ad you had to keep a fan on it. I spent 100 bucks o it to have it all repaired worth it too and I still have it as of today works like a beauty. I even swapped out my 60gb hard drive and ad put a 320gb hard drive in it. and it still plays all the ps games 🙂 *** amazig but whe it has problems like this or the ylofd don’t throw it away its worth fixing ad getting it repaired. and the vita might be dead but they are releasing a new one this summer with boraderlands 2 on it!! so its still alive

    • Max says:

      The New One actually is not as good as the first release as the screen is inferior to it.

  26. Greg says:

    I have a backwards compatible 80GB PS3 working great until laser went dead. bought a new one, worked for a few months and died again. got a 3rd laser and it didnt work. Only plays ps2 games. Got a new blu ray drive after troubleshooting. nope. same thing. any suggestions? I’ve updated, wiped the hard drive, restored, tried all the tricks on the online forums, but they all point to a faulty laser. My laser and drive are new. Is it my GPU?

  27. Malik says:

    Question:is it possible to put 2 lasers in like the slim and super slim with out removing anything such as the ps2 chip?

  28. Q13E5 says:

    My 60gb 4usb card reading ps3 still works somehow. I have ran into a few ps2 games, like Sega tennis that doesn’t work.