Breaking Physical: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

48 Responses

  1. wololo says:

    Nice article but I’m seeing some points in favor of digital as well.
    With digital, companies have less excuses to not give you backwards compatibility for free. and this is what Sony is doing. Thanks to them, I can play some of my PSP games on the Vita without having to pay for them again. The same goes for Minis. Surely, what’s disappointing here is their limitation to 2 devices per game, which I find ridiculous (I have 3 psps, 2 ps3s, and 1 Vita. Limiting to 2 licenses per game is *not* enough).

    Physical discs also wear off eventually. Again, I agree that “giving away all your stuff in the cloud” is frightening, and we have lots of examples in the past where some companies have sc*** up their DRMs so badly that once they got bankrupt, the only way to get your music back was to rely on hackers. BUT, in the example of the Vita, it is possible, to some extent, to make local backups of your games (although it still requires an internet connection to Sony’s server with CMA, so again without the help of hackers, if Sony went bankrupt, I don’t think that would really work… but the idea’s there).

    Don’t get me wrong, I prefer physical games/movies by far. But with the lack of space here in Japan, plus some of the things I mentioned above, I am trying to see the benefit of digital.

    I’d say let’s not fight the wrong fight. The issue is not with going digital, the issue is DRMs and actual ownership of the good. Which I think you explained clearly, I just wanted to emphasize it.

    • omegafirebolt says:

      While I do agree that the digital copies of PSP games is kinda nice, when you have the physical copy already (like me with a lot of my PSP games I have on my 1000) and are now forced to buy it again from PSN just to play it on your PSP Go or Vita, I don’t see how that’s a plus anymore. Yes I have my Go using the Pro CFW and play iso/cso’s on it. I rightfully purchased the UMD copy of games and so I rip my UMDs with my 1000 and copy them to the Go. I shouldn’t be forced to pay full price on an OLD game that I have a physical copy of just to play it on my new system. Not to mention that a lot of my UMD games are even on the PSN allowed list for my Vita yet. They should have gone ahead with a trade in for the digital copy or a discount for proof of ownership or something. Maybe have the UMD in your PSP, connect to PSN, it checks the title and ties it to your account or offers the said discount. Yes I could see this being abused with rentals but like I said, discounted by say 80% would be better than having to pay $20-$40 for a game I already own when the new system is fully capable of playing said game if it had already been digital to begin with. Or maybe have it so you take the UMD to a store, they pop it in a little reader, it gives you a code, they keep the game and send back to Sony or something that way it curbs the rental abuse all together since now they lose the game and have to pay the rental company for the UMD if they did that. There are ways this could have been done where we aren’t getting ripped off completely like what is going on right now with PSN digital versions.

      On another note, the whole limiting the Vita to one account and forcing a wipe of it’s memory just to play games from another account that you or a family member owns is complete BS too. They could have had multiple account support and just made it so you had to sign out and into the other account to play the games from that account without the wipe. Maybe limit each Vita to 2 or 3 accounts and if they are on one Vita and you tried to put them on another Vita make it so the new system had to connect to the PS3 and revoke the privileges for the account you are trying to put on the new Vita and put it on this new Vita so that the next time the old Vita connects to PSN at all it would check to see which system had the more current privileges and just lock out your games on that system until it was connected back up to the PS3 again. If both systems were connecting to the same PS3 this would block people from sharing their account and still allow for them to have multiple accounts on their Vita and stay within the 2 copies rule they have.

      Sorry for the rant but just had to.

  2. Ambient_Malice says:

    Great article.

    • a real writer says:

      except that it’s horribly written. makes a lot of assumptions, doesn’t really understand business or tech. I understand and agree with a lot of the claims in this article, but the way the author is portraying them is pretty poor.

      • wololo says:

        We do our best to write quality content, and I think compared to most “scene” websites these days, we’re doing quite well, despite not being professional journalists. This was the first article from this specific writer, and he will surely improve over time, but for a first article I think it was pretty impressive and mostly accurate. As you probably know, writing in a blog is a mix of natural proficiency, knowledge of the subject, as well as experience.

        By the way I’m constantly looking for guest bloggers, PM me on the forum if you’re interested 🙂

  3. garrei says:

    my god.. not so long!

  4. Jethro says:

    A breaking bad fan?

    Anyway, I am all in favour of physical media. You don’t have to worry about storage spaces (A cupboard cost cheaper than the Vita memory card) and in my country, where the internet line is such unstable, I prefer having my games mailed to me. ‘Sides, cold, hard cash is easier to be tracked and less chance of getting stolen than the plastic cards.
    However, the cloud trend is moving fast due to iOS, Android OS and other casual gaming. Sooner or later, there will be PS Vita Go.

    • a real writer says:

      except that “cold hard cash” is definitely not easier to track than plastic. In fact cash is 100% anonymous and impossible to track.

  5. ffff says:

    is s5e06 out now????

  6. Xyz says:

    To be honest?
    Good ol’ Pirate Bay ftw.

  7. senas says:

    In my opinion the digital is more physical then previous generation. For example I can store my games on an external HDD , PS3, external usb, vita memory cards. Where as in the past they were stored on one CD.. can’t copy it, can’t store it. If the game scratched your out of luck. Cloud based games like onlive Failed.. no one it the right mind will pay full price of a full game they only have access to online. Personally, I would never have spent actual money on games that could simply vanish at any time due to licensing or service failure… without even the possibility of backing them up for later play were something to happen to the service.

  8. freddy_156 says:

    Digital delivery is the way. I feel safer if my game is saved on some cloud server than having a physical copy that I can potentially lose or break.

    • JMJorge19 says:

      i would still much rather have a physical copy, because if “I” lose it or break it then its my fault, but when THEY lose or break it then that makes me mad

      think of lending a game to a friend and when they lose and or break it what would you do, now think about giving that brand new game to a complete stranger, like (insert game company here) and thinking that they will let you play it whenever you want, and not get mad when THEY lose or break it

  9. Jennings says:

    Very good article. You make a lot of valid points, and to be honest this whole digitization of everything really frightens me.

    Anyhow, I love all the Breaking Bad pics. God, I love that show.

  10. OMightyBuggy says:

    I rather have my physical copy of anything I buy, just buying data should have reduced price cause your not paying for the packaging, paper manual, shipping, taking store space, and your also not the store where they have to sell the game to make some money off it. As the prices of 3 games can get you a PS3 or Xbox 360. I think a $60 game should be $30 when its digital. That is cutting out every thing I said above for what they have to do to sell a physical copy.

    • wololo says:

      Agree. Digital games cost much less to handle. The price of setting up the infrastructure for downloading, storing, etc is nothing compared to the price of physical space, shipping, inventory,…

  11. Etnies22 says:

    @OMightyBuggy: 1+ I totally agree with you! 🙂
    If my memory is not chicken ***, i remember one thing that companies have raised (100%) prices a few years ago to blank CD’s and DVD’s, also for the purpose of piracy …

    Digital copies should be at least 50% cheaper than physical copies…also you need to download them everytime you want to install them, and some people do not have super-fast internet and it could take days (ex.:Steam,Origin,…)…

    And if they decide that they ˝don’t like˝ you, they can block your account and you stay without all assets in just a blink of an eye.. 🙂

  12. Benzie says:

    I prefer the physical media. I live in the UK and to see my shelf with boxes and cases of games, Holding the actually disc or cartridge is the best.

    I see the downside. Like the Vita, Your limited to 2 licenses. what if your device gets stolen.. That limits you to one more. Regarding the downloading of such media: Some people are not willing to pay for the ridiculously overpriced packages that include 50mp+ data speeds. Personally I live in an area where we still use non fibre cables. I still only get 5mb….yeah bad huh…

    On the other hand I can see it being a good thing its almost instant games in the palm of your hand or an instant stream of a film. It will make people lazy though. Never having to walk to a store. Shops/stores will go bankrupt this will lead to rubble and decaying structures. Towns will look like ghost towns with nothing but fast food outlets and maybe…maybe a library. There are people who refuse to look at digital books.

    The worst bit for me would be the smell..Sound funny?

    everyone knows that smell when you open a new game. kind of plasticine-y or papery its amazing. The feel when you open the drive and it loads for the first time.

    The so called digital age is good in my opinion but I believe there are areas where a line should be drawn. No restrictions on what we buy. Even if its digital you should be able to store in..not on cloud or a Sony or digital secure backup..for E.g when you buy a device you get a little box like a External HDD that yes is encrypted to the manufactures specifications but something that backups your data with no limitation to you.

    • Noel Abercrombie says:

      Just pointing out that if a Playstation thingy gets stolen, It can be deactivated remotely from Sony’s website, Allowing you to use another in its place.

      Physical all the way. I only buy digital when it’s super discounted.

  13. Jvhellraiser says:

    my mother went to the Doctor yesterday to do her check
    up so when the Doc finish wih her my mom said where are
    my Rx and the Doc said they are already in your predilec
    pharmacy we send the Rx there from know on it will be this
    way,i was like O.o awesome but my mother did not like the
    idea but at the end i explain to her that this is better and is
    ok. She said now everything is going to be by computer and
    and is hard to get use to it. i hope the changes that are coming
    in the future wont affect us more than helping us. XD

  14. SSJ-Vita says:

    Digital has been and is going to continue to be a strong front for much more than just games. But cartridge gaming shouldn’t be ousted anytime soon because at the end of the day you can touch it, drop it and tuck it away in your junk drawer for later use. Both can carefully coexist and I think should. I like my FF VII crisis core umd just as much as my jet moto 2 psn download. Also Sony should really consider upping the number of account/console availability. Powerhouse graphics say a lot and go a long way but could lose in the long run compared to more user friendly standards that any one of them could “and should” start securing soon.

  15. James Way says:

    I’ve stated previously that my girl got me my xbox, my ps3 and my vita. I’ve told her that due to hearing news that sony and MS were trying to implement locks on games so they are registered to ONE user id and thus could not be “resold” for the benefit of the original owner, I don’t want the new systems. A lot of games already implement the need to buy dlc, or download it for free with the one time code you get when you buy the game new, meaning that if you buy something used or $30 you’ll still have to shell over $10 for extras. I understand that they want to make money, they have a right to be in this business to make profits, but with excessively expensive prices for games, most having little to no replay value, not benefits to buying used, or selling as used for that matter, I think people will just turn away from sony and ms. With Ouya coming out, they are going to be shaking at the knees. They will need to adapt or drop out. We the gamer have so many choices, from cell phones, to tabs to ouya to droid x360 to pcs to steam, etc. The age of ms or sony, maybe not so mch wiiU since they are not going to go the same way as the other two, is coming to an end if they don’t fix themselves and their business model.

  16. Luthy says:

    I’m not sure……. But……… I think your a fan of Breaking Bad

  17. COSMOS43 says:

    Nice article. I’m a huge collector of limited edition games, movies, etc. so all digital would suck. I like the idea of digital but games need to follow the bluray/dvd/digital copy formula. If the masses want something a certain way and they unite they usually get what they want. Of course getting the masses to unite now days is getting harder. By the way great job on the site wololo. I’ve been here for awhile figured I’d respond once.

  18. Cracky_Ninja says:

    This was well thought out. I believe that digital downloads for consoles should be reserved for indie/arcade games, and that larger games should have a physical disc.

    Though, if you are gaming on a PC, digital downloads is the way to go. You could easily access a vast library of games instantly, and with steam, the price is extremely discounted.

    I always enjoyed being able to trade games with friend, or sell games that I had already beaten, and digital downloads would mess with all of that.

  19. new says:

    “If a game for example, on the next generation is digital only and costs a premium of $120, which is already rumored to be the cost of a game, you are stuck with that price tag”

    The term goes “When heck freeze over” I will pay $120.00 for a game physical or digital. The solution to digital is to stop buying digital, your wallet is a very powerful tool.

  20. alpmaster007 says:

    THE PSP GO SUCKED I knew once Sony went digital the next system was not going to have backwards compatibility for UMD those bastards all gaming companies are getting rid of the old Awesome games.

  21. RetroZelda says:

    in regards to “when I say you are stuck with a digital or cloud game forever it’s a short forever. If the company behind it files bankruptcy and goes out of business you lose all of your purchases, all gone and you’re “out of luck”.”

    when I had my first wii back in 2007, I had a ton of purchases from the wii shop. but when my wii broke, and I got a new one, all those games were lost

  22. Norml says:

    Digital is bogus, you failed to mention the EA forum bannings where the end-user got locked out of their EA games…from a simple FORUM ban, not even inside a game.
    They have the power to lock you out at anytime.

    What will happen in the future? retail will cost more and digital will cost what retail is now. That’s how they’ll dupe more people into going digital, they’ll claim the manufacturing costs are making them lose money because more people buy digital. Which is all bogus, these companies are robbing people blind! We have tb+ hard drives on PC and $ony admitted a long time ago, they can get their chips up to 2tb…but yet, they have yet to pass 100gb. W T F ?

  23. Norml says:

    So there’s censorship going on here???
    Thanks for deleting my reply…another reason not to go digital, censorship, the company will own YOU & your thoughts.

  24. oO Flowzilla Oo says:

    I can imagine going to Gamestop and buying redeemable codes instead of physical discs (It’s slowly happening). The bad side of this is that without internet you’re pretty much sc***. I think it’s an unfair move.

  25. arturia says:

    *** 120 bucks per digital game? screw the game companies ill go with ouya. free games woo hoo!

  26. mentat says:

    Since when $ony locked out linux on the PS3, I sold 12 of my of ~20 PS3 games (I would sell the rest if someone would buy). The only new game I bought was Rocksmith.

    $ony lost one of its best customers.

    Now on, I will only purchase games for the PC and that are pirateable. Ex: Skyrim, Minecraft, Warcraft 3, Diablo 2, Dead Space 1 & 2, Dragon Age 1, Fallouts 1-3+NV and many more.

    I’d never buy something like LOL and I regret deeply having bought Diablo 3.

  27. Jack sparrow says:

    Doesn’t make a difference to me I pirate 100% of all my games anyway. Can’t wait to watch piracy skyrocket if they charge 120$ for a game. one could buy a used console for that much.

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    • svenn says:

      You cannot “pirate” on the cloud. Its like webgames, you cannot pirate them, the cloud is in essence the same.

  28. svenn says:

    Now legally there is a big difference between buying a service and buying a item.

    For one, if you bought a service, and for some reason company does not deliver you the service, they are obliged to return the money. In case a company goes broke this is not really usefull, however if you get banned, you could argue they fail to deliver you the service.

    In other words, they keep having the responsibility. Now if you buy digital games, you can always back them up locally. There is a difference between digital and cloud-alike services.

    The logic here is if you buy cloud-alike games, you do not have the hardware to run it yourself, and a physical copy is useless. No fail proof but well 🙂

  29. jdubz says:

    Digital should cost less and doesnt, period end. There’s no way i’ll ever support digital. If i had an original psp I could’ve purchased my beloved Jean d’arc from gamestop used for $7.99. I had to pay 25$ for it on the sony store. Robbery, just as this article stated, and it’s just the beginning of what those money-hungry bastards will do. And if it happens it will obviously be the end of ALL game stores. I will be forced to hit up kroger or giant eagle for network cards whenever I wanted to buy a game unless I want to mix myself in to the inevitable theft of the online gaming world.

  30. Wamphyri2b says:

    Sorry, if someone else pointed this out, but I’m about to head out the door to work and don’t have time to read all the comments first. I wanted to clear up a little misconception. Those old Phat or Original 360 HDD’s work just fine with the new Slim version. You just need to take it out of it’s case, then slap it in the bottom of the Slim 360. Anyone with a Torx screwdriver can do it. I am in total agreement though. The fact that we can only use Xbox branded HDD’s is ridiculous. There is a fairly simple way to convert Western Digital HDD’s that are the same size as the official ones, but it is completely ridiculous that we can’t use any size HDD we want without hacking our consoles to run unsigned code.

  31. Pirate Cat says:

    This is why I only buy physical releases. Didn’t get one? I’m not buying it.

  32. Rippy says:

    Really nice article. This is one of the things which has been bothering me lately. In my country, Mexico, happens a very important phenomenom with digital copies and the PSN. For example a new PSV game can cost me from 650 to 800 MXN as a physical copy, which is about 60 USD, however I can buy a 50 USD PSN card for 715MXN , download the same game and still have aroun 15-10 USD in my account.

    Quite ironically,the advantages of digital copies can be much more apparent in not so developed countries.

    As some people have said earlier, the real problem behind digital gaming is not a dichotomy of physical/digital, but the invasive DRMs and giving complete ownership of the product to the customer.

  33. crimson fury says:

    just shut up , would ya ?!
    not all the people in all countries can get a good priced-physical chip for vita for example !
    it’s over-priced ! … while in the same time they can get it for about 20 or 30 bucks cheaper ! …
    so *** son .

  34. mentat says:

    Physical release or not, it doesn’t matter if in 5 years a new windows is gonna come out and you won’t be able to play them.

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