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Aftermarket PSP battery internals and rebooting

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lusid
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Aftermarket PSP battery internals and rebooting

Post by lusid » Sun May 29, 2016 4:29 am

I have a few Chinese aftermarket PSP batteries, and recently one of them died mid-game. The PSP would not power on from the battery, and if I powered it up from the AC adapter and inserted the battery it would charge for a moment or two, then stop, but the PSP would not run from the battery. Voltage from the battery measured over 4v, so the cell was good. I concluded the MCU had crashed, and as it turns out it was easy to reboot.

Internally the pictures I've seen of these Chinese batteries all have a variation on the same logic board mine has. There is an MCU, a protection chip, and a voltage regulator. These boards have 3 labeled pads marked A, B, and C. These tell the MCU what capacity cell it is connected to. There is also a set of 5 pads, which in my version were labeled G,R,V,C,D. G is ground (B-), and R is connected directly to the reset pin of the MCU. I shorted R and G momentarily, which rebooted the MCU and then I reassembled the battery. Now its back in service.

I have seen others suggest draining the battery with a diode, but the MCU can operate all the way down to 2.7v so this would be bad for the cell. These cells are of dubious quality to begin with. I have also seen someone suggest unsoldering the cell, which would reboot the MCU, but with the reset pin so nicely exposed that seems like overkill.

While I was looking over the board, I see why these are so problematic. There is no fuel gauge chip or coulomb counter. The only indication it has of the state of charge is the delta between the regulated voltage and the battery voltage. There is no eeprom to store charge cycle counts, or other cell related data and the cell capacity is set by shorting I/O port pins to ground. The software does not appear to implement enough of the communications protocol to charge from a PSP-330 battery charger, or set/get the serial number. The MCU is active at all times, even if the protection chip were tripped by an undervoltage condition.

On the plus side, it may have some hacking potential. The G R V C D test points appear to support in-place programming of the MCU. It may be possible to tinker with the code.

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A little update. Since I posted this I have had to reboot all of my clone batteries with the exception of the lenmar. They seem particularly prone to crashing during USB access/charging.

Since I have had to open them all up I checked the cells. My "1200mah" clones have unmarked 063450A cells which puts them at ~1000mah. My "3600mah" clones have a mix of (marked) 063450AR and 063450ARH cells which mean the best of the lot has maybe 1100mah of actual capacity. Only one of the cells carries the UL registered component mark. By comparison, an OEM 1200mah battery has a US633450 A9H with a design capacity of 1250mah.

In short, they all suck. So I am harvesting the best cells of the lot to repair a couple of OEM slim batteries that died from bloat. Sounds simple enough but the eeprom data needs more study.
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dexer79
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Re: Aftermarket PSP battery internals and rebooting

Post by dexer79 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:17 pm

Hi, would you be kind enough to show mep how to reprogram the mcu?

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Dude, when you mentioned about the A B C pads and resetting the battery control unit, did wonders on my Psp big battery mod. now I can fully utilise every single amp hour from my 3000mah battery mod. instead of showing 7 hours play time, it gave accurate up to 13 hrs. Thanks a lot cuz.
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Re: Aftermarket PSP battery internals and rebooting

Post by battlepug » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:38 pm

Did you short pads A, B and C and leave them shorted to get 13 hours, if not which were shorted.
Thanks

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I've done some research and it looks like the 9202 marking on the mcu chip is part number UPD78F9202MA-CAC-A. The datasheet is available from https://www.rlocman.ru/i/File/dat/NEC/M ... _CAC_A.pdf
I think the board is out of an Insten NK-RH005 battery but can't confirm this until some arrive.
Unfortunately I have no idea about mcu and programming them but hopefully someone can work with the above info.
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