Homebrew and Emulation; let's talk possibilities.

[Tonakai]

Ok So lets not talk about the psp side of the vita
and lets say we get something for the Vita and
everything the vita has.

we can make a better Snes Emaulator,Better genesis Emulator/Sega Cd
we may have a Dreamcast Emulator,A Full Mame Emulator,Cps1/Cps2/Cps3
NullDc Emulator,N64 Emulator (3DS Emulator <- i dont like the idea just saying

Thanks for this response. I'm not too keen on the idea of the 3DS however; I'd much prefer the original DS, which I believe will be viable due to the touch screen and the fact that the PSP could run the DS.

If we can get PS2 to at least run even if not a decent speed Sony may use it and perfect it and support in future updates, just like they did with many features in the psp that hackers made first (For example, pspstate is the Pause feature which only the PSP system has out of all consoles)

This will never happen... ever.

BTW, this thread titles is discussing possibilities not reality or impossibilities.

Also, sorry to pull you up here too, but by possibilities; I meant things that are/will be possible. Not things that'd never be possible (such as the Ps2).

Anyways, my point is its not impossible to run PS2 games on a vita. If you port a ps2 emulator to something and you get a game to run, you have a ps2 emulator. Does it have to run fast? No. Playable? No. But its still a ps2 emulator on a vita or whatever console you want no matter what you think of it. Case closed, new topic.

I don't get the point on wasting time on a non playable PS2 emulator for the vita. kind of counter intuitive.

On the topic Im really a old school guy some snes genesis and nintendo emulators im fine with. Along with some gba and a full fledged ps1 emulator would would be amazing for me i would be a completly happy vita owner as long as devs are making more games for the vita itself

Sounds like you'll be happy enough with just VHBL then although, having said that; won't PSX Emulation be possible through VHBL come with Fw 1.8 (if Sony actually include it)? If so, I'll be incredibly satisfied, and won't have any issues waiting for a fully fledged CFW.

[jvhellraiser]

Stop talking about Ps2 emulation on the vita is not going to happen
if u don't know about emulation dont say anything,is very difficult to emulate
Ps2 on a vita,will be lucky if we Can have a fully working dreamcast emulator
on psvita that would be my dream come True,i would like to see of everything
u could be able to do on psvita and mediacenter capable of loading many formats.
I dont want iso loaders at all,only good emulators/homebrews on the vita.bthats all
i want.

[Tonakai]

Stop talking about Ps2 emulation on the vita is not going to happen
if u don't know about emulation dont say anything,is very difficult to emulate
Ps2 on a vita,will be lucky if we Can have a fully working dreamcast emulator
on psvita that would be my dream come True,i would like to see of everything
u could be able to do on psvita and mediacenter capable of loading many formats.
I dont want iso loaders at all,only good emulators/homebrews on the vita.bthats all
i want.

Agreed. I've seen lots of people referring to PS2 emulation on the Vita - so many times that it's beginning to become annoying to be honest. Anyhow, I think DC and Saturn may be quite likely on the Vita tbh, but only time can tell really.

I wouldn't really mind getting an ISO loader up and running though. It'd be nice having my PSV as a "AIO" hand held retro console emulator.

Also, just out of curiosity; what do you guys think about online capabilities in the future? Will we be able to play retro and new games alike on multiplayer, or will PSN and other methods even be available? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

[jrbo]

yes it does and do not double post
also the Vita has 512 MB RAM, 128 MB VRAM
(it has 2x the RAM of a PS3 but half the VRAM and obviously the CPU does not run as "fast")

now as for your other questions

VHBL runs in user land so no you cant run atpro <===thats PRO Online's name BTW (well the plugins name)
or any plugin to be exact, its very limited and can only run some homebrew if the exploitable game calls the right functions

"Live"CFW is the same as any other CFW just not permanent, a PSP LCFW for the Vita does already exist its just not public
(primarily cause you need a kernel exploit to run it)

when we get access to the Vita side of things we will see some truly awesome things, heck Im drooling at the thought of N64
also on what it might be able to do I really hope for some Dreamcast action but I doubt it >__<


BTW you can't delete threads or move them so just wait for a mod to do it

I feel like im not phrasing things right or in a way where a new person might get it
but mhee im running on a whole heck of a lot of coffee right now >__<

DERP he meant how much available ram not total ram

[ipadboy00]

Also, just out of curiosity; what do you guys think about online capabilities in the future? Will we be able to play retro and new games alike on multiplayer, or will PSN and other methods even be available? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

You can't play multiplayer on older games using an emulator made for vita or even psp because most games dont even support multiplayer because the device is a single player. And why would psn support even be disabled?

[Tonakai]

Also, just out of curiosity; what do you guys think about online capabilities in the future? Will we be able to play retro and new games alike on multiplayer, or will PSN and other methods even be available? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

You can't play multiplayer on older games using an emulator made for vita or even psp because most games dont even support multiplayer because the device is a single player. And why would psn support even be disabled?

Yeah, I understand this. Point is that I was wondering about old classics being made playable (such as PSO) on the Vita. Along the same lines as PRO-C kinda thing - aywhoo, just an idea. As for PSN, it was a long time until the PSP got full PSN support (and not getting your system banned Etc.) so I was thinking that it would probably be similar on this console. Could be wrong, but oh well.

[cliobrando]

Almost 12 years has passed since PS2 was released.
Some time ago (maybe 5 o 6 months) I tested the pcsx2 emulator, most games plays fine but there's a great percentage that presents glitches and slowdowns (maybe 20%). The first version of this emulator was released 10 years ago and every year is getting better.
But think about it, the pcsx 2 is a emulator that runs on a PC, some games runs just perfect (on a good PC), and some games have glitches and slowdowns (on the same good PC).
On the other hand we have the PS3 internal PS2 software emulator (found in the flash), very few games runs fine on this (on non backwards compatible PS3's) and it's made by SONY.
I know that the PS2 emulator found inside the PS3 it's not meant to run on non-backwards compatible PS3's but think: the emulator is made by the company that designed the PS3 and knows the hardware and all the optimizations that can be made to the code and how to use the HW to it's full extent and IT'S NOT PERFECT (and very very very few games runs fine).
The PS2 hardware is very complex and hard to emulate on a know platform (like a x86 pc), so it's almost absurd to think that some kind of PS2 emulator would be released to a random console (xbox, ps vita, etc.) it's not going to happen any time soon.

I don't know if the public SDK for the vita allows some level of HW access, but it'll be cool some kind of basic messenger application.
Homebrew is not just emulators.

just my 2 cents, and sorry for my bad english

[Tonakai]

Almost 12 years has passed since PS2 was released.
Some time ago (maybe 5 o 6 months) I tested the pcsx2 emulator, most games plays fine but there's a great percentage that presents glitches and slowdowns (maybe 20%). The first version of this emulator was released 10 years ago and every year is getting better.
But think about it, the pcsx 2 is a emulator that runs on a PC, some games runs just perfect (on a good PC), and some games have glitches and slowdowns (on the same good PC).
On the other hand we have the PS3 internal PS2 software emulator (found in the flash), very few games runs fine on this (on non backwards compatible PS3's) and it's made by SONY.
I know that the PS2 emulator found inside the PS3 it's not meant to run on non-backwards compatible PS3's but think: the emulator is made by the company that designed the PS3 and knows the hardware and all the optimizations that can be made to the code and how to use the HW to it's full extent and IT'S NOT PERFECT (and very very very few games runs fine).
The PS2 hardware is very complex and hard to emulate on a know platform (like a x86 pc), so it's almost absurd to think that some kind of PS2 emulator would be released to a random console (xbox, ps vita, etc.) it's not going to happen any time soon.

My thoughts are exactly that. I really don't believe that it'll ever be possible during the duration of this console's lifespan. I mean, sure - I'd like it, but it's highly unlikely.

I don't know if the public SDK for the vita allows some level of HW access, but it'll be cool some kind of basic messenger application.
Homebrew is not just emulators.

just my 2 cents, and sorry for my bad english

Yeah, I know - I should have mentioned more about the HB side of things rather than just Emulators. Having used the console; I'd also very much like a basic messenger application that allows access to MSN (such as eBuddy). I'm also looking forward to seeing some of the Homebrew games that are going to be released when the full power of this console is harnessed. My main want in terms of Homebrew though, is a File reader. I know that Bookr works, but I'm not sure if it'll suit my needs - it didn't on the PSP. However, since the PSV has smooth transition from games to the live area, it may work perfectly fine for me.

[computerdude111]

If we had full access to the ps vita's hardware would it be possible to create a gamecube emu for the vita?

[ipadboy00]

If we had full access to the ps vita's hardware would it be possible to create a gamecube emu for the vita?

Depends on if we can port dolphin to the ps vita to test out the speed etc.