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Stallman was simply right

Postby m0skit0 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:21 am

I've read this article, found it very interesting and wanted to share it here. I'm not going to hide that I'm a big Stallman fan. Some people think he's too "extreme", but fortunately, there are still "extreme" people out there and not mere sheeps. Hope you like the article.

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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby Iono » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:35 am

Did he litterally mean 'free' software because I find that extreme? and freedom is a state of mind which artcles like this and people like Mr Stallman take away from us, making us believe that we are not safe and someone anonymous could be listening to everything we say. Is this really going to help anyone, exposing the supposed truth, making people think all the time rather than letting them live there life of a lie even though this is what they know as a happy and 'free' lifestyle (In thier head).
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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby m0skit0 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:58 am

I don't know what are you talking about Iono... Did you read the article?
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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby Casavult » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:48 pm

Hmm, I think it's time I finally got that Android I've been meaning to get.

m0skit0, what are your thoughts on this article and opinions? There are so many going on in my head. :|
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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby m0skit0 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:21 pm

I've always agreed with Stallman even before reading him because of my political thinking background.

Recent events just demonstrate that the supposed western democracies are not that much when there's no other political system that morally challenges them like socialist states in the Cold War (even then it was what I call the smoke curtain, versus the iron curtain). Most (if not all) of the social rights advances made in western countries, and the welfare state system, was actually aimed at stopping left-wing revolutions in Western Europe after WW2. Most of reforms in what's called the "welfare state" are actually socialist in their very own nature. Even so, a lot of left-wing revolutions took place, like Cuba, Viet-Nam, Nicaragua, Chile, Congo, Egypt, and a lot of them... which, if you see, are all third-world countries. Those didn't get any reforms on their political systems like western Europe, because direct military action from USA and allies was possible without much dismay.

This to say that now the "democracy" (I better call it "capitalocracy") sees all those rights as a "threat" to the system. Which means the "system" sees the "demo" part of "democracy" as a threat. Yeah, you can vote, but you have no privacy and no rights. Who said 1984 is coming?

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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby Wdingdong » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:05 pm

I'm waiting for the days when jailbreaking a device won't be necessary. We can see how fast Android captured the market. Free and Open source is eventually going to win. Sony failed to understand this, thus, now suffering huge losses( though they never seem to learn from their mistakes).
Though sharing knowledge seems to be a loss by business point of view, but it wins in the long run. As every thing is becoming more and more technology dependent, it is very important to know what your device do? what it is capable of? what is inside it?
Good enlightening article. Thanks m0skit0, for sharing.
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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby Casavult » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:49 am

m0skit0 wrote:This to say that now the "democracy" (I better call it "capitalocracy") sees all those rights as a "threat" to the system. Which means the "system" sees the "demo" part of "democracy" as a threat. Yeah, you can vote, but you have no privacy and no rights. Who said 1984 is coming?


This, I couldn't agree more. You have basically summed up apart of what I was thinking with this.
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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby wololo » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:07 pm

Although I personally agree with the article, I don't see how Stallman's point of view is more relevant now than he was 10 or 30 years ago. Most humans are sheep, especially when it comes to technology, and that hasn't changed in 30 years.

When I posted about the Vita CMA forcing the users to be connected all the time, half of the replies I got were at the level of a godwin point, telling me "if you are doing something on your Vita you don't want Sony to know, then you probably shouldn't be doing it in the first place".
When you talk to people about their phones spying on them, they just don't care. My wife was more worried about me not erasing my address book from my old phone when I threw it in the garbage can, than she is every time she uses her iPhone. She doesn't mind giving her full name and address to a supermarket when they offer her 0.05% discount!!!

My only hope is that there is so much information to process that people who are doing the spying are overwhelmed with it, and I can go through unnoticed.

This is unrelated to the part about putting a computer inside our own body, or putting our trust in a car, however. For this part, I trust that the companies that build those risk a lot (in terms of image) if their software is incorrectly programmed and therefore do their best to provide something that works and does not have any unadvertised "features". But maybe I'm a dreamer. Surely open source software all over the place would be way better.
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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby FrEdDy » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:08 pm

As expected.
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Re: Stallman was simply right

Postby m0skit0 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:37 pm

wololo wrote:My only hope is that there is so much information to process that people who are doing the spying are overwhelmed with it, and I can go through unnoticed.

I'm afraid your hopes are in vain... There has been recent advances on software that filters such data... Ask Google and Apple.
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