Today all computers are "personal" unless you specify they are not. So almost nobody uses the term "personal computer" anymore. You just say "my computer". So no, PC is not an abbreviation of "personal computer" anymore, but a way to specify that this computer is IBM PC-compatible. I hope this is clear enough now, peaso cabezotam0skit0 wrote:nowadays by "PC" you're referring to IBM PC clones for historical reasons
why you gotta insult me? I never insulted anyonem0skit0 wrote:Or are you a spanish politician?
Still, doesn't matter if it comes with drivers if one cannot use them. So until a hack is made and the decrypted drivers are available the most that one could do is to bypass the loader to boot their own kernel and writting all the drivers from scratch. Of cource this make it totally unfeasible as a "PC".m0skit0 wrote: I think you're missing the point here. PS4 already comes with BSD (which is an OS similar to Linux) and of course with all drivers for it to work properly.
OtherOS? after sony removed it from the PS3 ..... i don't think so (of course i want to be wrong on this). If the console gets hacked it could lead to real development and not some simple homebrew like the PS3 since a lot of apps/libraries are made with the premise that it will run on x86 hardware .Does this mean Sony will bring back the OtherOS feature? Will this allow a faster hacking of the console?
Like I said about other os. Pc architecture. Sony may create a secure kernel (so it won't be hacked as easy), .codestation wrote:Still, doesn't matter if it comes with drivers if one cannot use them. So until a hack is made and the decrypted drivers are available the most that one could do is to bypass the loader to boot their own kernel and writting all the drivers from scratch. Of cource this make it totally unfeasible as a "PC".m0skit0 wrote: I think you're missing the point here. PS4 already comes with BSD (which is an OS similar to Linux) and of course with all drivers for it to work properly.
Note: i am using "PC" term as a generic device that can run most applications oriented to a desktop/portable computer since the original term is somewhat limited nowadays.
Anyway, back on topic:OtherOS? after sony removed it from the PS3 ..... i don't think so (of course i want to be wrong on this). If the console gets hacked it could lead to real development and not some simple homebrew like the PS3 since a lot of apps/libraries are made with the premise that it will run on x86 hardware .Does this mean Sony will bring back the OtherOS feature? Will this allow a faster hacking of the console?
). What's gonna be secured is the user software running on top of it.
Yeah I see you are saying. I suppose we will have to wait til november before we start a solid argumentm0skit0 wrote:The question is not if the kernel is secure. FreeBSD kernel is open source and Sony is not likely to modify it too much (otherwise why choose an open source kernel
For some OS' (Especially Linux IMO), yes. Right now the only way to boot into FreeBSD with GRUB is (IIRC) to chainload which is not an elegant solution (you don't even need to chainload with Windows anymore). In fact, before today, I've never seen anybody load FreeBSD with GRUB, it's peaked my interest ;p.m0skit0 wrote:GRUB is probably best boot loader as for now.Xian Nox wrote:why they used GRUB2 in the devkits at all
LILO is not deprecated. V24.0 is very recent and it's still the recommended bootloader for FreeBSD as far as I can tell.m0skit0 wrote:LILO (LInux LOader) is deprecated since long ago.Xian Nox wrote:Both boot0 and LILO
