Just thinking

[Kosuke]

I have 2 thoughts
1. What ever game for the VHBL we have to use Sony should not care cause it will boost thier sale of the game by like 70%, so why would they take it down?
Its not like we can pirate games and even if we could people wil still buy that game so it not like they are completely losing out.
Say no to piracy just for respect and common good.

2. The people that will lose out will be AT&T cause im pretty sure we would be able to unlock the vita just like a smart phone to use a differnt company, aka T-Mobile.
Which as an ulimited data plan (first 2gb are 4g and after is the normal speed which im guessing is 3g) for 20$ and it is way better the 30 bucks for 2gigs.
I dont get my vita till the 1st of march so idk if a T-Mobile sim card will fit, but that was my first idea I had when I heard that the PSV might have 3g.
Any comments or thoughts about that.

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[Xian Nox]

1. what ever game for the vhbl we have to use sony should not care cause it will boost thier sale of the game by like 70% so why would they take it down its not like we can pirate games and even if we could ppl wil still buy taht game so it not like they are completely losing out. but say no to piracy just for respect and common good.

You have a point. HBL has never allowed piracy, which proves that user-mode homebrews are safe for Sony to allow. Moreover, allowing them will allow people to create indie games, which will further boost the sales of the Vita. It's a win-win situation imho.
For some reason, perhaps seeing indie games as a threat to commercial games, Sony does not allow us to use the full potential of the the consoles that we have paid for.

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[nisarg_kolhe]

1. what ever game for the vhbl we have to use sony should not care cause it will boost thier sale of the game by like 70% so why would they take it down its not like we can pirate games and even if we could ppl wil still buy taht game so it not like they are completely losing out. but say no to piracy just for respect and common good.

You have a point. HBL has never allowed piracy, which proves that user-mode homebrews are safe for Sony to allow. Moreover, allowing them will allow people to create indie games, which will further boost the sales of the Vita. It's a win-win situation imho.
For some reason, perhaps seeing indie games as a threat to commercial games, Sony does not allow us to use the full potential of the the consoles that we have paid for.

Some months after NGP(At that time.) was revealed, many rumors came across the net that Sony will encourage home devs by releasing a SDK...So, maybe Sony is also positive about this...

[tombraiderwes]

What does SDK mean? And the only reason I would ever hack a PSP or PSV is to play games like Kingdom Hearts and Crisis Core and such that I paid for with the UMD but they never made it to the digital stage.

[SifJar]

It is not 100% certain that they will react negatively, but Wololo and the other's involved must anticipate the worst.

There is always a chance Sony will let it happen. They may indeed see the potential for increased revenue from sales of the game, and possibly even new Vita owners if they leave this exploit unpatched. Considering it probably won't lead to anything more than user mode PSP homebrew, it shouldn't be a huge concern for them.

As for 2: Maybe the Vita will eventually get an unlock, but it will not come from this hack. This is PSP user mode only. No chance of unlocking Vita from there.

And SDK means Software Development Kit. It is the tools and libraries of code that developers use to create software for a platform, games mostly in the case of the Vita.

As for Sony releasing one for home devs: I wouldn't bet on it. The PS Suite SDK will I think be a lower entry level SDK for smaller devs (e.g. the sort of devs behind iOS apps, on tight budget) which may help small indie devs get involved with developing for the Vita, but I doubt it will be released for free or will really be useful for homebrew - chances are it'll still need to be approved by Sony before it gets onto devices other than a registered test device, owned by the developer.

[jc_gargma]

i have 2 thing i wanna say
1. what ever game for the vhbl we have to use sony should not care cause it will boost thier sale of the game by like 70% so why would they take it down its not like we can pirate games and even if we could ppl wil still buy taht game so it not like they are completely losing out. but say no to piracy just for respect and common good.

That's not the issue. The issue it that it can allow more access into a closed system, and give users more control over a device that Sony feels only they should have power over. Sony will put a stop to that, regardless of whether it can mean piracy or not. All the closed PSP usermode exploits should be a very good indication of their intent.

2. the ppl that will lose out will be att cause im pretty jusre we would be able to unlock the vita to use a differnt company aka t-mobile which as an ulimited data plan (first 2gb are 4g and after is the normal speed which im guessing is 3g. for 20$ and it is waya better the 30 bucks for 2gigs
i dont get my vita till the 1st of march so idk if a t-moble side kick will fit but that was my first idea i had when i head that the psv might have 3g
any comments or thoughts about that

This assumes that T-Mobile supports the PSVita. Phones are not supported by other carrier simply by existing. That's why exclusivity deals are made, just like this one with the PSVita. The iPhone was the same on release, and took months before another carrier was allowed to support it.

Some months after NGP(At that time.) was revealed, many rumors came across the net that Sony will encourage home devs by releasing a SDK...So, maybe Sony is also positive about this...

There is an SDK, but its very a boxed in and controlled environment to design games in, plus, it has to go through an approval process before it can be even used. Homebrew devs want to make things and be unrestricted on the system they choose to code on. Sony cannot provide this freedom, so VHBL is needed.

And the only reason I would ever hack a PSP or PSV is to play games like Kingdom Hearts and Crisis Core and such that I paid for with the UMD but they never made it to the digital stage.

You can do so on a PSP right now. For a PSVita, you have a very long wait till that can happen.

It is not 100% certain that they will react negatively, but Wololo and the other's involved must anticipate the worst.

"Plan for the worst, hope for the best."

There is always a chance Sony will let it happen.

No, just no. Past history shows this will not happen.

As for 2: Maybe the Vita will eventually get an unlock, but it will not come from this hack. This is PSP user mode only. No chance of unlocking Vita from there.

Unlocking a SIm card and unlocking (ie, jailbraking) are PSVita are not the same thing by any means.

And SDK means Software Development Kit. It is the tools and libraries of code that developers use to create software for a platform, games mostly in the case of the Vita.

There is an SDK, but its very a boxed in and controlled environment to design games in, plus, it has to go through an approval process before it can be even used. Homebrew devs want to make things and be unrestricted on the system they choose to code on. Sony cannot provide this freedom, so VHBL is needed.

As for Sony releasing one for home devs: I wouldn't bet on it. The PS Suite SDK will I think be a lower entry level SDK for smaller devs (e.g. the sort of devs behind iOS apps, on tight budget) which may help small indie devs get involved with developing for the Vita, but I doubt it will be released for free or will really be useful for homebrew - chances are it'll still need to be approved by Sony before it gets onto devices other than a registered test device, owned by the developer.

It is closed in and needs Sony approval. Read above.

[Kosuke]

Well i know it wont come from this Hack/Softmod but just unlocking it to T-mobile is not really bad is just a better data plan.
Which i want just so i can play without fear of using all my data and without fear of it shuting off in the middle of a game/download.

jc_gargma Wrote
Unlocking a SIm card and unlocking (ie, jailbraking) are PSVita are not the same thing by any means.
This assumes that T-Mobile supports the PSVita. Phones are not supported by other carrier simply by existing. That's why exclusivity deals are made, just like this one with the PSVita. The iPhone was the same on release, and took months before another carrier was allowed to support it.

This I Know it was just a thought.
I also know that Sony could react in a negative way i was just saying my opinion
And you never know what sony is Going to do just beacuse what happen in the past dosent mean its going to be the same now.

[Xian Nox]

And you never know what sony is Going to do just beacuse what happen in the past dosent mean its going to be the same now.

History repeats itself. It's not only the PSV, it's all Play Station consoles.

[Kosuke]

History repeats itself. It's not only the PSV, it's all Play Station consoles.

Yea i get that maybe its just my way of thinking cause i tend to over think things.
Its just that sony did gove the devlopers a lil something or told them it was ok to get something out of it.Now im thinking they will let this go on in a way they until they can tell where and how its goona go just for the release and just for the profit of the game sells.
Kinda off topic but I didnt just join the forurm i just never really posted i came and looked aorund but never posted an opinoin or downloaded anything cause of my issues but i been following it on and off. now im back on and i wanna help

[SifJar]

There is always a chance Sony will let it happen.

No, just no. Past history shows this will not happen.

"I have never died before, therefore there is zero chance of it ever happening to me" - this is how ridiculous your statement is.

As for 2: Maybe the Vita will eventually get an unlock, but it will not come from this hack. This is PSP user mode only. No chance of unlocking Vita from there.

Unlocking a SIm card and unlocking (ie, jailbraking) are PSVita are not the same thing by any means.

I know. I was talking about SIM unlock. I'm not an idiot.

As for Sony releasing one for home devs: I wouldn't bet on it. The PS Suite SDK will I think be a lower entry level SDK for smaller devs (e.g. the sort of devs behind iOS apps, on tight budget) which may help small indie devs get involved with developing for the Vita, but I doubt it will be released for free or will really be useful for homebrew - chances are it'll still need to be approved by Sony before it gets onto devices other than a registered test device, owned by the developer.

It is closed in and needs Sony approval. Read above.

Pretty sure there is no PS Suite SDK that works with Vita at the present.