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Re: Replacing Debian with a new distribution, need adivce

Post by Xian Nox » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:40 pm

VirtualBox is in the repo, as well as MySQL.
Now that I checked, eclipse is on the repo, as well as netbeans. They look like a fairly recent addition too.
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Re: Replacing Debian with a new distribution, need adivce

Post by asgard20032 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:14 pm

Xian Nox wrote:VirtualBox is in the repo, as well as MySQL.
Now that I checked, eclipse is on the repo, as well as netbeans. They look like a fairly recent addition too.
Good to hear, OpenSUSE is back in the competition... Now the real fight is mostly between Fedora and OpenSUSE... (since no one talked about Debian testing, i don't know much about it, because of that, i concentrate on OpenSUSE and Fedora).

Now, what about installation of the OS... What option do they offer? Debian ask if we want a GUI or not, if we want apache, mail server, DNS server, SAMBA server, print server... What does OpenSUSE offer and what Fedora offer??
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Re: Replacing Debian with a new distribution, need adivce

Post by FrEdDy » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:36 pm

Arch Linux is very flexible and simple to configure.
Uses pacman as package manager, very light and simple to use.
Repos are always updated, and for packages that aren't in the repo, you can check the AUR (Arch User Repository) which contains all kind of software, you can even find minecraft or psx emulators there!
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Re: Replacing Debian with a new distribution, need adivce

Post by Xian Nox » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:45 am

openSUSE installation: Live CD | DVD
I'd recommend you getting the LiveCD and writing it on a flash drive. No wasting CDs and you can see what it's all about before installing it.

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Re: Replacing Debian with a new distribution, need adivce

Post by asgard20032 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:49 am

Xian Nox wrote:openSUSE installation: Live CD | DVD
I'd recommend you getting the LiveCD and writing it on a flash drive. No wasting CDs and you can see what it's all about before installing it.
This is not what im talking about. Im talking after you have put the CD in the machine, what exactly the installer offer you to install... With debian, we can choose either if we want GUI or not, DNS server or not, mail server or not, SQL or not... Does Fedora and OpenSUSE offer thing like this??

Edit: Ok for Fedora, yes, during the installation, we can choose package we want, and select from some preset configuration. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fed ... n-x86.html and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fed ... n-x86.html during the installation process. Does OpenSUSE offer that?

Also, I found out that making mp3 and flash to work under Fedora is easy. I don't understand why so many people comply about that. I didn't tried, but according to that guide, its very easy, like 2-4 command, and everything work. http://www.fedorafaq.org/
So maybe that yes, its hard to make it work for people that never touched a console or a terminal, but for people like me, that opened a console at least 30 time in his life... Not hard. (I just said at least 30 time, not that myself I only opened it 30 time... I opened it hundred of time... But I just say that almost anyone that used Linux for a few day could make those thing work without any issue).

I see that both offer very complete documentation(even better than the Ubuntu one...), so complete that it could even be sold as a book.
For fedora documentation, look here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fed ... index.html
For OpenSUSE documentation, look here: http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/h ... e-startup/

So Fedora and OpenSUSE in equality... Both are very interesting. Except that lot of people complain that OpenSUSE is bloated(not to much an issue when we have powerful machine).
I think that both are worth to try at least one time. But, like I said, can't download everything... So I will have to wait a few month before I can try the other.

Now, that I really don't know which one to choose, im asking you, as a developer/programmer, which one you would choose, and why (which feature that X distribution has over the other)... I warn you,I won't choose a distribution like Arch-Linux or Gentoo or Slackware, or even FreeBSD. Im not currently looking at a "build your own linux/*BSD distribution). I know that both, Fedora and OpenSUSE, are very capable, and may suit my need, but maybe one of them could be slightly better for the job. Like I said, will be used mainly for programming and as normal desktop.

Also, a simple question which one between Fedora and OpenSUSE will look more familiar to a Debian's family user? (Im not talking about the dekstop used, whether GNOME or KDE is used, but more the other thing, like administration, package management...)
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Re: Replacing Debian with a new distribution, need adivce

Post by asgard20032 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:09 am

Ok so here what I will do: I will get OpenSUSE when it will be realesed this eptember + PC-BSD (because of its installer, to install FreeBSD, support for zfs).

By the waiting time, I will try out gentoo(in a virtual box). I will also get my hand on ArchLinux soon.

I decided also to use Kubuntu because of steam on linux.When it will be available on other distro... Maybe I wont use it anymore.
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Re: Replacing Debian with a new distribution, need adivce

Post by Xian Nox » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:43 am

asgard20032 wrote:I decided also to use Kubuntu because of steam on linux.When it will be available on other distro... Maybe I wont use it anymore.
You do know you can install it on non-deb based distros as well, right? (I managed to quite easily install the minpsp tools, a deb package, on openSUSE, which is rpm-based. There are also tools to automatically convert them.)

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