Programming languages

[Dallox]

Hi,

Im going to start programming class after summer and i wanted to ask what kind of language is good to learn (As in jobs and such) I dont really care about multiplatform or anything. im not gonna be a website maker or a game developer, just so you know (Just applications and such)

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[Acid_Snake]

It really depends, you should learn two languages: one compiled, one interpreted.
There are really good tutorials here in talk.
Personally I recommend C and Python.

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[Nickolas]

I'd go for C. If C is your first language everything else on almost any other language will make sense. Also, C is everywhere. No kidding. EVERYWHERE. PC/MAC/Linux/Unix/Apple iPhone/PSP-PS3-PSV You can use it for game development, applications development even OS development. C wasn't my first language and I regret not learning it first.

[Dallox]

I agree C is a great language, but after doing some research there wasnt much jobs were i live for C (Atleast i couldnt find it)
It seems Java and C# has the most jobs.
Also i shall learn Python since atleast one interpreted language is fine ;D

[Wdingdong]

I agree C is a great language, but after doing some research there wasnt much jobs were i live for C (Atleast i couldnt find it)
It seems Java and C# has the most jobs.
Also i shall learn Python since atleast one interpreted language is fine ;D

True, that Java and C# has more jobs. If you directly start learning them you'll soon be in heck. But, if you learn C first, then you'd grasp concepts of any language easily.It'll be like extra knowledge for you(plus point) and knowledge never goes waste. Also, learning languages which only fetches jobs would not help you in long run.
PS: Java is also a compiled and interpreted language.

[Xian Nox]

Both Java and Python can be compiled to native code too. ^_^

[m0skit0]

First, you should NOT choose a programming language based on how many jobs are available for it. Why? Because these are mere trends and fashions. Java and C# are probably most used languages, but I would definitely not recommend them to learn. You should choose a language that will teach you good programming habits. This is extensible to any programming language. Also most programming languages are very similar, so learning a programming language that has influenced a lot of other languages (like C) will make you able to understand/learn most other programming languages fast enough.

Also distinguishing compiled/interpreted for learning really makes no sense. As a programming student you don't care if it's compiled/interpreted. You care about good programming habits. What you should look about learning is getting familiar with most popular programming paradigms, specially imperative, object-oriented and functional. You can try to check out a language for each of these paradigms (I personally recommend C, C++ -or Java- and LISP respectively).

Also if you don't like programming for itself, please search a job in something else. There are already enough frustrated "keyboard bashers" out there that have done a 3-month Java course and are now calling themselves "programmers" and coding ***.

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[Dallox]

First, you should NOT choose a programming language based on how many jobs are available for it. Why? Because these are mere trends and fashions. Java and C# are probably most used languages, but I would definitely not recommend them to learn. You should choose a language that will teach you good programming habits. This is extensible to any programming language. Also most programming languages are very similar, so learning a programming language that has influenced a lot of other languages (like C) will make you able to understand/learn most other programming languages fast enough.

I think its best then to learn C & Java (I can choose two languages so that should be okay)

Also if you don't like programming for itself, please search a job in something else. There are already enough frustrated "keyboard bashers" out there that have done a 3-month Java course and are now calling themselves "programmers" and coding ***.

I do like programming, i like to make small games in Love2D, but its nothing special or advanced (And its in a very easy language LUA..). My class is 4 years + 3-4 years HBO so 7-8 years should be enough to learn C and Java in a good way.

[m0skit0]

Ok Anyway it's not time that matters, but what you learn in that time Most programming teachers I've known dedicate way too much time to syntax or useless language features (or not so important) instead of teaching proper programming habits, like how to structure your code or make it more readable/maintainable, which is what makes you a good programmer that produces quality software.

Welcome, good luck and last but not least, have fun with it!

[Dallox]

thanks for all I hope i dont get a teacher who is like that, but we will see. Thanks for those tips, i cant wait to start programming and learning