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Playstation 4 Rumors

Post by shinra358 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:18 pm

Rumor has it that PS4 is in development. It states that it's name would be 'Orbis' if not that it is just an alpha stage codename or if it exists at all. The word 'Orbis' itself is a Latin word that means circle, ring, or orbit. Looking at the Vita, it's a Latin term that means 'life. Put them together and you get "Circle of Life". However, there are a few debatable pros and cons that may redesign the gaming industry in the console world, or bring it to it's destruction. Here are some specs:

Pros: -3D games support
-Blu-Ray Disks


Cons: -No last gen or any gen support
-Will not be able to play used games
-Will not be able to play rented games
-Bought games will have to be registered online to be activated. If not, it will stay a demo before you do

Mixed: -4096 x 2160 resolution support
-Games can be saved to HDD


The resolution would be great, but then you would have to, again, upgrade your televisions to take advantage of the console's full potential. But is it really necessary? Games can be saved to the HDD but will there be some kind of catch? Will not being able to play used and rented games mark a downfall of the system and/or to your local used game or video store? Did you buy all your PS3 items in vain online to eventually end up with no support for the last gen making your games useless 10 years down the road? And lastly, for the vast amount of money you will probably spend on this system, will you HAVE to buy internet in order to even play it? You decide.

What do you think of this rumor and how do you think it will affect the gaming world?

Source: http://kotaku.com/5896996/the-next-play ... he-details
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Re: Playstation 4 Rumors

Post by Kagero » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:09 am

This will pretty much end Sony's relationship with brick and mortar video game boutiques like GameStop, where used are their bread and butter. I also think it's a bold move for Sony while the world's in recession. If Microsoft's new system is in any way similar to the PS4 and has ports, and is compatible with used games, I can see MS taking the lead due to their long-term advantage for the frugal gamer.

The high resolution doesn't make much sense to me, since 1080p is fine for most households (screen size vs. viewing distance). I'd rather have 1080p 3D running rock solid at 60+ FPS than 4k 3D with chugging (like we see with the PS3/360 now with 1080p and lower games).

Games can be saved to HDD sounds like a great idea, until you run out of room. If Sony's smart, they'll repeat history with the PS3 and how easy it was to install your own drive. If they're even smarter, they'll come up with a easy-swap solution like the 360, with a much more reasonable cost. This would mean easier customer support (only a limited situations to run into), and ease of use for the average consumer. I don't understand MS and how they want to discourage people from using up HDD space, which leads to less digital sales. I don't care if the HDDs are 3.5" platters, I want them affordable and easy to replace/add on.

I hope that a DVR function comes standard, or release close to launch. Japan and European regions have this, and I would love to have it in the US as well.
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Post by Acid_Snake » Sun May 27, 2012 7:59 pm

This are all the rumors I've heard so far and my opinion on them:
- Will not play used games: I don't think it'll happen, Sony could loose too much support from big retailers like GameStop, also they would have done it with the Vita already.
- Will use AMD CPU: AMD CPUs are for computing, for gaming PowerPC has been proven to be a better solution.
- Will use Cell Broadband Engine ¿X? clocked at ¿3.2GHz? : I can see why they would continue to use CBE, but 3.2?
- Will have 10GB ram, 10GB vram: never, 2GB ram+2GBvram is more like it, even 1GB is enough.
- Will not play Ps3 games: if it still uses CBE then we might see BC, but even if it doesn't happen I don't really care.
- Will still use Blu-Ray: not really a surprise, Blu-Ray still has a lot to offer.
Those are my two cents.

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Post by fouadtjuhmaster » Thu May 31, 2012 8:47 am

Acid_Snake wrote:Will not play Ps3 games
The PS3™ didn't support PS2™, so it is kinda logical that the PS4 doesn't support PS3™.
And what about PlayStation® Storesm
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Post by fate6 » Thu May 31, 2012 9:41 pm

fouadtjuhmaster wrote:
Acid_Snake wrote:Will not play Ps3 games
The PS3™ didn't support PS2™, so it is kinda logical that the PS4 doesn't support PS3™.
And what about PlayStation® Storesm

The PS3 did at one point support all Ps2 games ;)
(then some, followed by non)

the thing is PS3 required PS2 hardware to play the games (later models had software emulation but not all games worked)

sorry I just felt like you where misinforming people :|
(who knows I might be wrong as well >___<)
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Post by Acid_Snake » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:42 pm

fouadtjuhmaster wrote:
Acid_Snake wrote:Will not play Ps3 games
The PS3™ didn't support PS2™, so it is kinda logical that the PS4 doesn't support PS3™.
And what about PlayStation® Storesm
My PS3 supports PS2 games, and since the PS4 will be more powerful it will most likely playback PS2 games too, if they also use a hardware similar to the PS3 then it will probably play PS3 games the same way Wii plays GameCube games.

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Post by fouadtjuhmaster » Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:49 pm

Acid_Snake wrote:
fouadtjuhmaster wrote:
Acid_Snake wrote:Will not play Ps3 games
The PS3™ didn't support PS2™, so it is kinda logical that the PS4 doesn't support PS3™.
And what about PlayStation® Storesm
My PS3 supports PS2 games, and since the PS4 will be more powerful it will most likely playback PS2 games too, if they also use a hardware similar to the PS3 then it will probably play PS3 games the same way Wii plays GameCube games.
How can your PS3 support PS2? I can't get it work
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Re: Playstation 4 Rumors

Post by fate6 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:28 pm

fouadtjuhmaster wrote: How can your PS3 support PS2? I can't get it work
because he has a older model that can play PS2 >__>
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Post by jc_gargma » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:56 am

fate6 wrote:The PS3 did at one point support all Ps2 games ;)
(then some, followed by non)

the thing is PS3 required PS2 hardware to play the games (later models had software emulation but not all games worked)
Only the orignal two PS3's models (CECHA and CECHB) had the emotion engine chip (allowing any PS2 game to run.) It was removed on the subsequent models as a means to reduce system production costs, and given software emulation as a replacement (CECHC to CECHF models.)
All later Phats (CECHG and on,) as well as all Slims have neither. All these models can still emulate as the CECHC-CECHF models could, but the means of enabling the system to do so is unavailable, (short of a breakthrough in RE'ing a Cobra dongle, or Cobra being nice and just telling people.)
fate6 wrote:The resolution would be great, but then you would have to, again, upgrade your televisions to take advantage of the console's full potential. But is it really necessary?
Sony would likely try to launch a new line of HDTVs that can run this resolution on system launch to capitalize on the need for this new resolution (but aside from their gaming division, Sony is haemorrhaging money, so this may backfire. Its silly to expect people will buy a new TV generation every few years.)
Acid_Snake wrote:This are all the rumors I've heard so far and my opinion on them:
- Will not play used games: I don't think it'll happen, Sony could loose too much support from big retailers like GameStop, also they would have done it with the Vita already.
Considering how openly game developers state used games are putting them out of business, Sony is rather likely to forbid used sales. After all, they already lock most things you buy for Sony products to a PSN account (DLC, online passes, any downloaded games, your PSVita itself,) so the jump to making disc bought games require a PSN doesn't seem far-fetched. (Besides, look at all the disc-based PC games that force you to activate your game with a Steam, Origin, or some other client account. That forbids used sales. What makes a console so special?)
Acid_Snake wrote:- Will use AMD CPU: AMD CPUs are for computing, for gaming PowerPC has been proven to be a better solution.
The choice of GPU was more likely made on the basis of cost than practicality to a task.
Acid_Snake wrote:- Will use Cell Broadband Engine ¿X? clocked at ¿3.2GHz? : I can see why they would continue to use CBE, but 3.2?
The 8th core on the PS3 Cell Processor was disabled due to heat concerns. If they improve the cooling methods and unlock the 8th core, it may run rather nicely. If the cooling is not so good, we may soon be hearing about the Red Orbis of Doom. (Orbis means ring *giggles*)
Acid_Snake wrote:- Will have 10GB ram, 10GB vram: never, 2GB ram+2GBvram is more like it, even 1GB is enough.
Keep in mind how the PS3 had far too little RAM for its needs, forcing most games to install large amounts of data in order to have load times at a respectable level (and many games it still didn't help much.) 10Gb does seem like overkill, but perhaps Sony needs all the extra RAM to run its DRM.
Acid_Snake wrote:- Will not play Ps3 games: if it still uses CBE then we might see BC, but even if it doesn't happen I don't really care.
I highly doubt the PS4 will have standard backwards compatibility. Its too profitable to resell those games from the PSN.
Acid_Snake wrote:- Will still use Blu-Ray: not really a surprise, Blu-Ray still has a lot to offer.
However, there has been talk of Sony considering a direct download only distribution method (similar to the PSPgo,) which would do away with any disc media drive as a feature.

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Re: Playstation 4 Rumors

Post by fouadtjuhmaster » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:03 pm

fate6 wrote:
fouadtjuhmaster wrote: How can your PS3 support PS2? I can't get it work
because he has a older model that can play PS2 >__>
I also have an older model...
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