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#77264 by Lartza
Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:56 pm
As is clear from the title, I request Nazi Zombies Portable to be disqualified from the contest.

This is due to the fact that the team working on NZP has still failed to release the source code of the project which is required by GPL. This is outright copyright violation to take someone's code, in this case the Quake engine and use it against the license that id software has set for it, which requires source of the deriative works to be released.

I tried to reach out to NZP team and requested the source, but their answer was locking the thread and telling their engine is 100% own and custom (http://nzportable.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1295(https://www.dropbox.com/s/xrm3kesh3jkkb5m/2011-06-09-195355_1280x1024_scrot.png))
The whole project is indeed based on Quake and thus violates GPL terms which one can familiarise with at http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
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Last edited by Lartza on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
#77291 by RUSTII
Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:17 pm
Lol,you the same guy that released there source??
Seems a bit suss,what your saying..
Unless you got something against them,Like been kicked from the team?
For LEAKING there work,and Source???

We will see what the mods say.
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#77295 by Lartza
Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:26 pm
I have not released their source, nor am part of their team and haven't ever been or will never be with such disrespect for other people's work, GPL and open-source projects.

They have stole someone else work without giving credit or obeying to the license set by the creator, and I hope I could have downloaded the 1.1 source when the link was viral so I could re-release it like Quake license obeys.

PS. Actually if someone has the source, I might be happy to release and host it after packaging it with the GPL license file, but that's really what the developers should do not someone who was kicked from the team or me.
#77297 by ultimakillz
Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:33 pm
Jukki wrote:Nzp is using a heavily modified quake engine called proquake. This engine is made by baker. and we have editted it to suit our needs. The game logic (qc ) is written 100% by us from scrach. (quake fanboys may know what I mean).

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6237&start=0

Wikipedia wrote:The Quake engine is the game engine that was written to power 1996's Quake, written by id Software. It featured true 3D real-time rendering and is now licensed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_engine

without seeing the thread you are referring to (i cannot view it without registering, which i am not going to do) it is difficult to say for sure. let's wait and see what the judges say. in the meantime keep this thread on-topic and no flaming, kthx.
#77299 by Lartza
Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:36 pm
ultimakillz wrote:
Jukki wrote:Nzp is using a heavily modified quake engine called proquake. This engine is made by baker. and we have editted it to suit our needs. The game logic (qc ) is written 100% by us from scrach. (quake fanboys may know what I mean).

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6237&start=0

Wikipedia wrote:The Quake engine is the game engine that was written to power 1996's Quake, written by id Software. It featured true 3D real-time rendering and is now licensed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_engine

without seeing the thread you are referring to (i cannot view it without registering, which i am not going to do) it is difficult to say for sure. let's wait and see what the judges say. in the meantime keep this thread on-topic and no flaming, kthx.


Screenshot of the thread that was quickly locked
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xrm3kesh3jkkb5m/2011-06-09-195355_1280x1024_scrot.png
#77318 by m0skit0
Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:06 pm
@Lartza: can you please link me to somewhere to confirm the project was initially based on Quake engine?
#77322 by RUSTII
Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:26 pm
m0skit0 wrote:@Lartza: can you please link me to somewhere to confirm the project was initially based on Quake engine?

Hi,I know im now Lartza But here is the Engine they Based it Off(Baker).
You can even see the comments by jukki(A Guy in the NZ:P Team) Saying there porting there game to that engine he was releasing
Link: http://forums.inside3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=2656
You can download the copy there,and it has the GNU.txt in it(For the Engine)
#77351 by Lartza
Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:59 am
RUSTII wrote:
m0skit0 wrote:@Lartza: can you please link me to somewhere to confirm the project was initially based on Quake engine?

Hi,I know im now Lartza But here is the Engine they Based it Off(Baker).
You can even see the comments by jukki(A Guy in the NZ:P Team) Saying there porting there game to that engine he was releasing
Link: http://forums.inside3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=2656
You can download the copy there,and it has the GNU.txt in it(For the Engine)


Exactly, but their engine source is kept behind closed-doors and doesn't ship with the GPL, which should not be the case. (QuakeC, the scripting part is hopefully from scratch like they say) Also the game ships with several files related to Quake (quake.rc darkplaces_history.txt) and the maps are in .bsp format, there is no doubt the underlying engine is Quake.
#77379 by Mexicouger
Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:13 am
They are using Bakers ProQuake PSP engine, which is a modified Quake engine. They are Under the GPL, and they HAVE to release the engine source if they release a binary. They failed to supply a source for their last update as well. Big mistake.

It doesn't matter how much work they put into the game. They are under GPL still and have failed to release the source; that's going against terms of use.
#77389 by Lartza
Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:35 am
jastolze wrote:I'm pretty sure that they DON'T have to release anything, dude. I'm a donator over there, and being one doesn't even get you the source. Don't complain. Oh, and especially don't try to ruin what they've worked very hard for. From the way I see it, you can't accept the word NO. On top of that, you don't have all your facts straight. The source code they have written IS in fact their own work, and I'm pretty sure that means they don't have to release it. Just ask other quake-mods like Solitude or left4quake. They won't release it. Why? Well because they wrote the code from scratch. Hope this cleared things up for you Lartza :)


Solitude I can't confirm anything sicne their site is down and no files are available from moddb, but left4quake hasn't been released to the public and thus doesn't have to release the source (afterall, there aren't even any binaries so) If they do they have to release their engine and if not written from scratch, their QuakeC sources.

RUSTII wrote:and im guessing they got PERMISSION to release the game without the source,Because of the work they put into it.
So that gives them to the Right by the GNL to not release the source...Well that is what i got from it..
With permission you dont have to release source..So why dont you take this to the forum the files are hosted at?

but then again,they have More then just a few guy's looking at ALL the works from genesis.
if they find Something,"Houston we have a problem"..But untill then!Enjoy the negative vibes your getting 8-) :lol:


For permission, they would have had to BUY a license from id software and also asked from EVERYBODY who had made edits to proquake and whatever proquake is based on(since those edits are probably GPL, but are owned by the respective modders who made the edits), so I doubt that.

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