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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby Xian Nox » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:38 am

nisarg_kolhe wrote:But still, it doesn't have emotion engine, so how the software capabilities may help? Correct me if I'm wrong...
Sony tried to emulate everything using just software, and failed. They got far at least, but never managed to make it stable. This is why not everything works properly.
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby RNB_PSP » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:58 pm

BTW, I remember reading a thread like this before, only with a different title: "PSP powerful enough to play N64 games?".. :D and yet DaedalusX64 exists.
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby rog » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:06 am

RNB_PSP wrote:BTW, I remember reading a thread like this before, only with a different title: "PSP powerful enough to play N64 games?".. :D and yet DaedalusX64 exists.

The difference here is that the vita would need to a bare minimum of 10 times the processing power it has to even have a chance of emulating ps2 games accurately at full speed.

Oh. And what type of cpu did the n64 have? MIPs, right? Waiiiit...isn't that what the psp has too?
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby manny82 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:43 am

My first gen ps3 has emotion engine built in. My second gen ps3 plays select ps2 titles through emulation. Plus vita plays psp games through emulation and i simply see the ps2 as barely any more powerful than a psp. So i think someday there will be a way to play ps2 titles on vita through emulation. Skimming through this thread reminds my of all the"experts" chiming in on how psp will never play n64. Heres hoping
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby RNB_PSP » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:28 am

rog wrote:
RNB_PSP wrote:BTW, I remember reading a thread like this before, only with a different title: "PSP powerful enough to play N64 games?".. :D and yet DaedalusX64 exists.

The difference here is that the vita would need to a bare minimum of 10 times the processing power it has to even have a chance of emulating ps2 games accurately at full speed.

Yes. The Vita needs that to run PS2 games at full speed with sound. If you're Sony with a team of professional coders where half-speed is simply not sufficient, then emulating the PS2 on Vita is impossible. But if you're a homebrew dev working without pay and half-speed without sound is considered playable, then it's possible.
rog wrote:Oh. And what type of cpu did the n64 have? MIPs, right? Waiiiit...isn't that what the psp has too?

Do remember that the N64's CPU is 64bit(and so as the PS2) and the PSP has a 32bit processor. Besides, ARM instructions does more than MIPS'. Only downside is it has half the number of registers.
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby Codestorm » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:43 am

rog wrote:
RNB_PSP wrote:BTW, I remember reading a thread like this before, only with a different title: "PSP powerful enough to play N64 games?".. :D and yet DaedalusX64 exists.

The difference here is that the vita would need to a bare minimum of 10 times the processing power it has to even have a chance of emulating ps2 games accurately at full speed.

Certainly not. The ps2 had what.. 32 mb of ram! And my computer isn't 10 times faster but still emulates psp at almost full speed. Its the hardware that counts, not always the processing power. The vita emulates psp games at full speed, but is it 10 times faster?
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby rog » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:49 am

Plus vita plays psp games through emulation and i simply see the ps2 as barely any more powerful than a psp.
That's not really true, and there is more to emulation than just how powerful the console was. It's easier to emulate wii games than ps2 games, for example.

RNB_PSP wrote:
The difference here is that the vita would need to a bare minimum of 10 times the processing power it has to even have a chance of emulating ps2 games accurately at full speed.

Yes. The Vita needs that to run PS2 games at full speed with sound. If you're Sony with a team of professional coders where half-speed is simply not sufficient, then emulating the PS2 on Vita is impossible. But if you're a homebrew dev working without pay and half-speed without sound is considered playable, then it's possible.
Ok, but it's not going to get half speed, even without sound. Maybe it could do 1/4 speed for some games, but that seems entirely pointless to me.
rog wrote:Oh. And what type of cpu did the n64 have? MIPs, right? Waiiiit...isn't that what the psp has too?

Do remember that the N64's CPU is 64bit(and so as the PS2) and the PSP has a 32bit processor. Besides, ARM instructions does more than MIPS'. Only downside is it has half the number of registers.
They are still similar cpus, which gives it a huge advantage.
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby Monk9899 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:44 am

Codestorm wrote:
rog wrote:
RNB_PSP wrote:BTW, I remember reading a thread like this before, only with a different title: "PSP powerful enough to play N64 games?".. :D and yet DaedalusX64 exists.

The difference here is that the vita would need to a bare minimum of 10 times the processing power it has to even have a chance of emulating ps2 games accurately at full speed.

Certainly not. The ps2 had what.. 32 mb of ram! And my computer isn't 10 times faster but still emulates psp at almost full speed. Its the hardware that counts, not always the processing power. The vita emulates psp games at full speed, but is it 10 times faster?


what? your pc emulates psp?
i've never seen a working psp emulator for pc except for jpcsp which runs about 7 games
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby Codestorm » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:42 am

Yes, I meant JPCSP.
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Re: PS Vita Powerful enough to emulate PS2 games?

Postby Monk9899 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:42 am

the last time i checked, jpcsp only ran 7 games.
i hardly call that a good emulator.
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