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What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by kidz axe » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:44 pm

I just wanted to ask, What does a semi brick look like and what is the difference between it and BRICK<DEAD.
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Re: What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by $PsPhaKeR » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:53 pm

semi-brick = can be turned on with battery removed and ac adaptor plugged in
brick = unrecoverable unless you have a pandora battery to write to flash
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Re: What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by m0skit0 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:40 pm

And what in the world has this to do with programming? :roll: Moving.
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Re: What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by wizarddoctor » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:58 pm

$PsPhaKeR wrote:semi-brick = can be turned on with battery removed and ac adaptor plugged in
brick = unrecoverable unless you have a pandora battery to write to flash
I don't think that is exactely...

A semi-brick = You can turn it on, but only in Recovery Menu (you know, startup + R-trigger)
A brick = the only thing you see is a green light and then it shuts down. You can repair this on hackable motherboards with a pandora.
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Re: What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by JJS » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:44 pm

The definition of a semi-brick is not clear cut. It either is what wizarddoctor described or some people also call a corruption of flash1 that gives you the blue "press x to reset your settings to factory default" a semi-brick.

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Re: What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by Mr. X » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:25 pm

JJS wrote:a corruption of flash1 that gives you the blue "press x to reset your settings to factory default"
That's what I thought a semi-brick was, but I guess it's also used to refer to a lot of other errors.
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Re: What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by ruyor » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:23 pm

How about this:

Semi-Brick: The PSP can't get to the XMB but can display something on the screen (XMB background/Recovery/BSOD/RSOD), all of which can be fixed on CFW w/o a Pandora kit as long as the Recovery Menu is working.

Brick: No access to anything, just green-light>shutdown, must use a Pandora kit to fix.
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Re: What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by MaX_SLayeR » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:07 pm

ruyor wrote:How about this:

Semi-Brick: The PSP can't get to the XMB but can display something on the screen (XMB background/Recovery/BSOD/RSOD), all of which can be fixed on CFW w/o a Pandora kit as long as the Recovery Menu is working.

Brick: No access to anything, just green-light>shutdown, must use a Pandora kit to fix.
You don't need CFW to restore flash1. I've ruined flash1 on my 3000 plenty of times. BSOD will fix it.
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Re: What is Semi Brick And Brick

Post by ruyor » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:18 am

MaX_SLayeR wrote: You don't need CFW to restore flash1. I've ruined flash1 on my 3000 plenty of times. BSOD will fix it.
Yes, that's right, but the point I was making is that all of the problems I listed under semi-brick can be fixed thru recovery on CFW, even BSOD using the "Format flash1" option (although it would be pointless to fix it this way unless the "press O" method fails for some crazy reason xD).

I guess I should have included the "press O" info as a note, but I didn't see the point in it since this is a discussion on the definition of semi-brick and brick :P
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