fr0stie wrote:This isn't a bug so much as an observation. I've been working on a elf deck built around the Elvish Champion card (this card also needs the "landwalk" fix from above) and I noticed that the Fyndhorn Elves (Ice Age) card/creature doesn't gain the bonuses provided by the champion. I inspected the Ice Age .dat file and found that the Fyndhorn Elves subtype to be "elves" which would disqualify it from the champions bonuses because they only apply to the "elf" subtype. Am I way off base or does this seem feasible? Now I have to ask would changing the subtype from "elves" to "elf" be appropriate? I just assume that due to the Ice Age set's age and with the recent rise of tribal deck themes (zombie, elf, goblin, merfolk, etc.) that this change would be appropriate in order to bring some consistency to the older sets inline with the newer sets.
Shishio wrote:Yeshua wrote:It is a debatable rule, but I agree with wololo control isnt the same as putting into play.
Walolo and Yeshua are correct.
Taking control is definately NOT the same as "put into play"
I mean, stuff like Control Magic and Conquer have to target something that is already "in play" in the first play. I'm quite certain cards would have rules that would state "Treat as if just put into play" otherwise every time you took control of a creature with an ability or spell, the creature would get a second summoning sickness, which without being summoned, makes no sense.
A creature can’t attack unless it has been under its controller’s control since the start of his or her most recent turn. This rule is informally called the “summoning sickness” rule.
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