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AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:21 pm
by rawsugar
So I'm starting this project to tweak the AI decks, and I'm looking for cooperation and/or advice on how the AI works, as well as hints.

Ideally i'd like this to be a community project with peer testing and decisions, that will eventually be part of a new release if Wololo allows.

so I'm hoping people who already have some exerience and/or material in this field will join?

for the moment I'm using safe cards that AI shouldnt have trouble using, although it has already turned out - AI can have issues with just about anything:)

atm my main questions are whether preferred targets can be coded as hints, and whether using alternative costs can be coded

here's what I have so far (started yesterday):

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#NAME:Rawsugar Agro-Control White
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#    Creatures                         #
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#1 x Calciderm (PLC), {2}{w}{w}, Creature Beast, 5/5, shroud; 
122360

#1 x Archon of Justice (EVE), {3}{w}{w}, Creature Archon, 4/4, flying; 
146006

#1 x Oversoul of Dusk (SHM), {g/w}{g/w}{g/w}{g/w}{g/w}, Creature Spirit Avatar, 5/5, protection from blue; protection from red; protection from black; 
146735

#1 x Linvala, Keeper of Silence (ROE), {2}{w}{w}, Legendary Creature Angel, 3/4, flying; 
193660

#4 x Baneslayer Angel (M11), {3}{w}{w}, Creature Angel, 5/5, flying; first strike; lifelink; 
205077
205077
205077
205077

#2 x Mirran Crusader (MBS), {1}{w}{w}, Creature Human Knight, 2/2, double strike; protection from green; protection from black; 
213802
213802

#4 x Hero of Bladehold (MBS), {2}{w}{w}, Creature Human Knight, 3/4, 
214064
214064
214064
214064

#2 x Gideon's Avenger (M12), {1}{w}{w}, Creature Human Soldier, 2/2, 
220239
220239

#4 x Wall of Omens (CMD), {1}{w}, Creature Wall, 0/4, defender; 
247400
247400
247400
247400

#2 x Kitchen Finks (MMA), {1}{g/w}{g/w}, Creature Ouphe, 3/2, persist; 
370458
370458



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#    Spells                            #
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#4 x Swords to Plowshares (2ED), {w}, Instant, 
869
869
869
869

#4 x Wrath of God (4ED), {2}{w}{w}, Sorcery, 
2373
2373
2373
2373

#2 x Day of Judgment (M11), {2}{w}{w}, Sorcery, 
208297
208297

#3 x Unmake (ARC), {w/b}{w/b}{w/b}, Instant, 
220574
220574
220574

#1 x Path to Exile (MMA), {w}, Instant, 
370408



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#    Lands                             #
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#4 x Plains (P02), Basic Land Plains, 
8354
8354
8354
8354

#4 x Plains (P02), Basic Land Plains, 
8374
8374
8374
8374

#4 x Plains (P02), Basic Land Plains, 
8380
8380
8380
8380

#4 x Plains (PTK), Basic Land Plains, 
10581
10581
10581
10581

#4 x Plains (PTK), Basic Land Plains, 
10645
10645
10645
10645

#4 x Plains (PTK), Basic Land Plains, 
10646
10646
10646
10646

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#NAME:Rawsugar Pure Burn
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#    Creatures                         #
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#4 x Perilous Myr (SOM), {2}, Artifact Creature Myr, 1/1, 
194056
194056
194056
194056

#4 x Keldon Marauders (PD2), {1}{r}, Creature Human Warrior, 3/3, 
234709
234709
234709
234709

#4 x Hellspark Elemental (PD2), {1}{r}, Creature Elemental, 3/1, trample; haste; treason; 
234711
234711
234711
234711



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#    Spells                            #
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#4 x Lightning Bolt (LEA), {r}, Instant, 
209
209
209
209

#4 x Incinerate (5ED), {1}{r}, Instant, 
4063
4063
4063
4063

#4 x Flamebreak (DST), {r}{r}{r}, Sorcery, 
50539
50539
50539
50539

#4 x Burst Lightning (ZEN), {r}, Instant, 
177558
177558
177558
177558

#4 x Rolling Earthquake (ME3), {r}{ }, Sorcery, 
201293
201293
201293
201293

#4 x Curse of the Pierced Heart (ISD), {1}{r}, Enchantment Aura Curse, 
227071
227071
227071
227071

#4 x Lava Spike (MMA), {r}, Sorcery Arcane, 
370409
370409
370409
370409



########################################
#    Lands                             #
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#4 x Mountain (BRB), Basic Land Mountain, 
21118
21118
21118
21118

#4 x Mountain (S99), Basic Land Mountain, 
21801
21801
21801
21801

#4 x Mountain (S99), Basic Land Mountain, 
21802
21802
21802
21802

#4 x Mountain (S99), Basic Land Mountain, 
21803
21803
21803
21803

#4 x Mountain (S99), Basic Land Mountain, 
21804
21804
21804
21804



I almost added another playset of lightning bolt to replace chain lightning, but Im trying to keep both legacy and wagic legal.
finding a way to use fireblast and rift bolt would be great but AI doesn't use alternate costs

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#NAME:Rawsugar: Sligh
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#    Creatures                         #
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#3 x Jackal Pup (TMP), {r}, Creature Hound, 2/1, 
4825
4825
4825

#4 x Keldon Marauders (PLC), {1}{r}, Creature Human Warrior, 3/3, 
125885
125885
125885
125885

#4 x Tattermunge Maniac (SHM), {r/g}, Creature Goblin Warrior, 2/1, mustattack; 
142013
142013
142013
142013

#4 x Memnite (SOM), , Artifact Creature Construct, 1/1, 
194078
194078
194078
194078

#4 x Stromkirk Noble (ISD), {r}, Creature Vampire, 1/1, 
230783
230783
230783
230783

#2 x Kiln Fiend (IVG), {1}{r}, Creature Elemental Beast, 1/2, 
292742
292742



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#    Spells                            #
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#4 x Lightning Bolt (LEA), {r}, Instant, 
209
209
209
209

#4 x Incinerate (ME2), {1}{r}, Instant, 
184636
184636
184636
184636

#3 x Flame Slash (ROE), {r}, Sorcery, 
193648
193648
193648

#4 x Brimstone Volley (ISD), {2}{r}, Instant, 
233253
233253
233253
233253

#4 x Lava Spike (MMA), {r}, Sorcery Arcane, 
370409
370409
370409
370409



########################################
#    Lands                             #
########################################
#3 x Mountain (RV), Basic Land Mountain, 
1390
1390
1390

#4 x Mountain (EVG), Basic Land Mountain, 
157940
157940
157940
157940

#4 x Mountain (SHM), Basic Land Mountain, 
158240
158240
158240
158240

#4 x Mountain (EVG), Basic Land Mountain, 
159061
159061
159061
159061

#4 x Mountain (MED), Basic Land Mountain, 
159284
159284
159284
159284

#1 x Mountain (MED), Basic Land Mountain, 
159285



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#NAME:Rawsugar MBdiscard

#HINT:combo hold(Hymn to Tourach|myhand)^cast(Hymn to Tourach|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({B}{B})
#HINT:combo hold(Wrench Mind|myhand)^cast(Wrench Mind|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({B}{B})
#HINT:combo hold(Inquisition of Kozilek|myhand)^cast(Inquisition of Kozilek|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({B}{B})
#HINT:combo hold(Duress|myhand)^cast(Duress|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({B}{B})

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#    Creatures                         #
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#4 x Nyxathid (CFX), {1}{b}{b}, Creature Elemental, 7/7, 
186616
186616
186616
186616

#4 x Phyrexian Obliterator (NPH), {b}{b}{b}{b}, Creature Horror, 5/5, trample; 
214386
214386
214386
214386

#4 x Vampire Nighthawk (CMD), {1}{b}{b}, Creature Vampire Shaman, 2/3, flying; lifelink; deathtouch; 
247552
247552
247552
247552

#2 x Stabwhisker the Odious (CHK), {1}{b}, Legendary Creature Rat Shaman, 3/3, 
7867911
7867911



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#    Spells                            #
########################################
#4 x The Rack (RV), {1}, Artifact, 
1139
1139
1139
1139

#4 x Wrench Mind (MRD), {b}{b}, Sorcery, 
45990
45990
45990
45990

#4 x Hymn to Tourach (MED), {b}{b}, Sorcery, 
159180
159180
159180
159180

#1 x Inquisition of Kozilek (ROE), {b}, Sorcery, 
193428

#1 x Duress (DVD), {b}, Sorcery, 
197004

#1 x Go for the Throat (MBS), {1}{b}, Instant, 
213799

#4 x Lashwrithe (NPH), {4}, Artifact Equipment, 
214359
214359
214359
214359

#4 x Sign in Blood (ARC), {b}{b}, Sorcery, 
220480
220480
220480
220480



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#    Lands                             #
########################################
#4 x Swamp (PTK), Basic Land Swamp, 
10607
10607
10607
10607

#4 x Swamp (PTK), Basic Land Swamp, 
10647
10647
10647
10647

#3 x Swamp (PTK), Basic Land Swamp, 
10648
10648
10648

#4 x Swamp (7ED), Basic Land Swamp, 
11521
11521
11521
11521

#4 x Swamp (7ED), Basic Land Swamp, 
11522
11522
11522
11522

#4 x Swamp (7ED), Basic Land Swamp, 
11523
11523
11523
11523



stabwhisker is a litte bit cheating here

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#NAME:Rawsugar MonoGmidrange
########################################
#    Creatures                         #
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#3 x Vigor (LRW), {3}{g}{g}{g}, Creature Elemental Incarnation, 6/6, trample; 
140227
140227
140227

#4 x Oversoul of Dusk (SHM), {g/w}{g/w}{g/w}{g/w}{g/w}, Creature Spirit Avatar, 5/5, protection from blue; protection from red; protection from black; 
146735
146735
146735
146735

#2 x Wickerbough Elder (EVE), {3}{g}, Creature Treefolk Shaman, 4/4, 
151097
151097

#1 x Kozilek's Predator (ROE), {3}{g}, Creature Eldrazi Drone, 3/3, 
198303

#4 x Llanowar Elves (M11), {g}, Creature Elf Druid, 1/1, 
205228
205228
205228
205228

#4 x Dungrove Elder (M12), {2}{g}, Creature Treefolk, 0/0, opponentshroud; 
220210
220210
220210
220210

#4 x Strangleroot Geist (DKA), {g}{g}, Creature Spirit, 2/1, haste; undying; 
262671
262671
262671
262671

#4 x Vorapede (DKA), {2}{g}{g}{g}, Creature Insect, 5/4, trample; vigilance; undying; 
262850
262850
262850
262850



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#    Spells                            #
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#4 x Nature's Lore (5ED), {1}{g}, Sorcery, 
3999
3999
3999
3999

#1 x Fracturing Gust (SHM), {2}{g/w}{g/w}{g/w}, Instant, 
146759

#4 x Three Visits (ME3), {1}{g}, Sorcery, 
201303
201303
201303
201303

#1 x Beast Attack (GVL), {2}{g}{g}{g}, Instant, 
201824

#2 x Overwhelming Stampede (M11), {3}{g}{g}, Sorcery, 
205003
205003

#2 x Lightning Greaves (CMD), {2}, Artifact Equipment, 
247337
247337



########################################
#    Lands                             #
########################################
#4 x Forest (M11), Basic Land Forest, 
213631
213631
213631
213631

#4 x Forest (MBS), Basic Land Forest, 
214031
214031
214031
214031

#4 x Forest (MBS), Basic Land Forest, 
214075
214075
214075
214075

#4 x Forest (SOM), Basic Land Forest, 
214665
214665
214665
214665

#4 x Forest (SOM), Basic Land Forest, 
214670
214670
214670
214670



AI couldnt handle Garruk and skipped the draw on Garruk's packleader, also dont have thragtusk in current available sets

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#NAME:Rawsugar Sliver
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#    Creatures                         #
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#4 x Sidewinder Sliver (TSP), {w}, Creature Sliver, 1/1, 
118908
118908
118908
118908

#4 x Sinew Sliver (PLC), {1}{w}, Creature Sliver, 1/1, 
125879
125879
125879
125879

#4 x Crystalline Sliver (PDS), {u}{w}, Creature Sliver, 2/2, 
207901
207901
207901
207901

#1 x Winged Sliver (PDS), {1}{u}, Creature Sliver, 1/1, 
207920



########################################
#    Spells                            #
########################################
#4 x Counterspell (LEA), {u}{u}, Instant, 
102
102
102
102

#4 x Swords to Plowshares (LEA), {w}, Instant, 
271
271
271
271

#4 x Exclude (INV), {2}{u}, Instant, 
22986
22986
22986
22986

#3 x Dream Fracture (EVE), {1}{u}{u}, Instant, 
153036
153036
153036

#1 x Preemptive Strike (PTK), {1}{u}, Instant, 
10530

#4 x Negate (M10), {1}{u}, Instant, 
190164
190164
190164
190164

#4 x Path to Exile (ARC), {w}, Instant, 
220511
220511
220511
220511



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#    Lands                             #
########################################
#4 x Plains (LEB), Basic Land Plains, 
596
596
596
596

#1 x Plains (LEB), Basic Land Plains, 
597

#1 x Island (BRB), Basic Land Island, 
22365

#4 x Island (BRB), Basic Land Island, 
22366
22366
22366
22366

#4 x Plains (INV), Basic Land Plains, 
26299
26299
26299
26299

#4 x Plains (INV), Basic Land Plains, 
26300
26300
26300
26300

#1 x Island (AVR), Basic Land Island, 
269625

#4 x Island (AVR), Basic Land Island, 
269633
269633
269633
269633



my best bet for a tempo deck AI can play, considering a unblockable version tho.

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#NAME:Rawsugar MonoRmidrange
########################################
#    Creatures                         #
########################################
#1 x Rorix Bladewing (ONS), {3}{r}{r}{r}, Legendary Creature Dragon, 6/5, flying; haste; 
39859

#1 x Giant Solifuge (GPT), {2}{r/g}{r/g}, Creature Insect, 4/1, trample; haste; shroud; 
106576

#4 x Keldon Marauders (PLC), {1}{r}, Creature Human Warrior, 3/3, 
125885
125885
125885
125885

#4 x Boggart Ram-Gang (SHM), {r/g}{r/g}{r/g}, Creature Goblin Warrior, 3/3, haste; wither; 
153970
153970
153970
153970

#4 x Demigod of Revenge (SHM), {b/r}{b/r}{b/r}{b/r}{b/r}, Creature Spirit Avatar, 5/4, flying; haste; 
153972
153972
153972
153972

#4 x Chandra's Phoenix (M12), {1}{r}{r}, Creature Phoenix, 2/2, flying; haste; 
220298
220298
220298
220298

#4 x Hellrider (DKA), {2}{r}{r}, Creature Devil, 3/3, haste; 
226874
226874
226874
226874

#2 x Hellspark Elemental (PD2), {1}{r}, Creature Elemental, 3/1, trample; haste; treason; 
234711
234711

#1 x Markov Warlord (DKA), {5}{r}, Creature Vampire Warrior, 4/4, haste; 
262693



########################################
#    Spells                            #
########################################
#4 x Lightning Bolt (LEB), {r}, Instant, 
504
504
504
504

#4 x Incinerate (MIR), {1}{r}, Instant, 
3455
3455
3455
3455

#4 x Flamebreak (DST), {r}{r}{r}, Sorcery, 
50539
50539
50539
50539



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#    Lands                             #
########################################
#4 x Mountain (ROE), Basic Land Mountain, 
205937
205937
205937
205937

#4 x Mountain (ROE), Basic Land Mountain, 
205947
205947
205947
205947

#4 x Mountain (ME3), Basic Land Mountain, 
206075
206075
206075
206075

#4 x Mountain (ME3), Basic Land Mountain, 
206076
206076
206076
206076

#4 x Mountain (ME3), Basic Land Mountain, 
206077
206077
206077
206077

#3 x Mountain (PDS), Basic Land Mountain, 
207936
207936
207936



Im not sure AI can use flashback

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#NAME:Rawsugar Blackburn

#HINT:combo hold(Hymn to Tourach|myhand)^cast(Hymn to Tourach|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({B}{B})
#HINT:combo hold(Mind Sludge|myhand)^cast(Mind Sludge|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~2}^totalmananeeded({B}{B})

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#    Creatures                         #
########################################


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#    Spells                            #
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#4 x Drain Life (LEA), {1}{b}{ }, Sorcery, 
61
61
61
61

#1 x Mox Sapphire (LEB), , Artifact, 
331

#1 x Mox Jet (2ED), , Artifact, 
630

#1 x Mox Pearl (2ED), , Artifact, 
631

#2 x Hymn to Tourach (FEM), {b}{b}, Sorcery, 
1852
1852

#1 x Worn Powerstone (USG), {3}, Artifact, 
8876

#4 x Corrupt (7ED), {5}{b}, Sorcery, 
25624
25624
25624
25624

#3 x Mind Sludge (TOR), {4}{b}, Sorcery, 
26432
26432
26432

#4 x Phyrexian Arena (8ED), {1}{b}{b}, Enchantment, 
45339
45339
45339
45339

#4 x Damnation (PLC), {2}{b}{b}, Sorcery, 
122423
122423
122423
122423

#1 x Consume Spirit (10E), {1}{b}{ }, Sorcery, 
129505

#3 x Tendrils of Corruption (PVC), {3}{b}, Instant, 
210139
210139
210139

#4 x Sorin's Vengeance (M12), {4}{b}{b}{b}, Sorcery, 
234436
234436
234436
234436

#3 x Mutilate (M13), {2}{b}{b}, Sorcery, 
265134
265134
265134



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#    Lands                             #
########################################
#4 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
270473
270473
270473
270473

#4 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
270474
270474
270474
270474

#4 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
270475
270475
270475
270475

#4 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
270476
270476
270476
270476

#4 x Swamp (IVG), Basic Land Swamp, 
292960
292960
292960
292960

#4 x Swamp (IVG), Basic Land Swamp, 
292961
292961
292961
292961



AI has a similar deck, but the addition of sweep and draw (and mind sludge) takes this to the next level, need to create hints for the discard
I wanted to use mind stone for this but AI couldnt handle it so in the end I went a little outside Legacy and added some moxes. I'd prefer mind stone really though.

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#NAME:Rawsugar MonoB Agro-Control
#HINT:dontattackwith(Creakwood Liege)
#HINT:dontblockwith(Creakwood Liege)
########################################
#    Creatures                         #
########################################
#1 x Korlash Heir to Blackblade (FUT), {2}{b}{b}, Legendary Creature Zombie Warrior, 0/0, 
136208

#1 x Ashling, the Extinguisher (EVE), {2}{b}{b}, Legendary Creature Elemental Shaman, 4/4, 
151137

#4 x Creakwood Liege (EVE), {1}{b/g}{b/g}{b/g}, Creature Horror, 2/2, 
157406
157406
157406
157406

#1 x Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief (ROE), {3}{b}{b}, Legendary Creature Vampire Shaman, 4/4, flying; 
193593

#4 x Phyrexian Obliterator (NPH), {b}{b}{b}{b}, Creature Horror, 5/5, trample; 
214386
214386
214386
214386

#4 x Vampire Nighthawk (CMD), {1}{b}{b}, Creature Vampire Shaman, 2/3, flying; lifelink; deathtouch; 
247552
247552
247552
247552



########################################
#    Spells                            #
########################################
#4 x Hymn to Tourach (FEM), {b}{b}, Sorcery, 
1852
1852
1852
1852

#1 x Diabolic Edict (BTD), {1}{b}, Instant, 
27251

#1 x Devour in Shadow (5DN), {b}{b}, Instant, 
50210

#4 x Damnation (PLC), {2}{b}{b}, Sorcery, 
122423
122423
122423
122423

#4 x Unmake (EVE), {w/b}{w/b}{w/b}, Instant, 
151083
151083
151083
151083

#1 x Go for the Throat (MBS), {1}{b}, Instant, 
213799

#4 x Lashwrithe (NPH), {4}, Artifact Equipment, 
214359
214359
214359
214359

#1 x Victim of Night (ISD), {b}{b}, Instant, 
220023



########################################
#    Lands                             #
########################################
#4 x Swamp (AVR), Basic Land Swamp, 
269627
269627
269627
269627

#4 x Swamp (AVR), Basic Land Swamp, 
269631
269631
269631
269631

#4 x Swamp (AVR), Basic Land Swamp, 
269641
269641
269641
269641

#4 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
270473
270473
270473
270473

#4 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
270474
270474
270474
270474

#4 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
270475
270475
270475
270475



need to code hint for creakwood

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#NAME:Rawsugar Infect
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#    Creatures                         #
########################################
#2 x Necropede (SOM), {2}, Artifact Creature Insect, 1/1, infect; 
194052
194052

#4 x Blight Mamba (SOM), {1}{g}, Creature Snake, 1/1, infect; 
194158
194158
194158
194158

#4 x Ichorclaw Myr (SOM), {2}, Artifact Creature Myr, 1/1, infect; 
194256
194256
194256
194256

#2 x Putrefax (SOM), {3}{g}{g}, Creature Horror, 5/3, trample; haste; infect; treason; 
207871
207871

#4 x Glistener Elf (NPH), {g}, Creature Elf, 1/1, infect; 
233052
233052
233052
233052



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#    Spells                            #
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#4 x Predator's Strike (MRD), {1}{g}, Instant, 
48595
48595
48595
48595

#4 x Giant Growth (10E), {g}, Instant, 
129568
129568
129568
129568

#4 x Groundswell (WWK), {g}, Instant, 
193998
193998
193998
193998

#1 x Berserk (FVE), {g}, Instant, 
194969

#4 x Rancor (ARC), {g}, Enchantment Aura, 
220577
220577
220577
220577

#4 x Titanic Growth (M13), {1}{g}, Instant, 
288934
288934
288934
288934



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#    Lands                             #
########################################
#4 x Forest (4ED), Basic Land Forest, 
2377
2377
2377
2377

#4 x Forest (4ED), Basic Land Forest, 
2378
2378
2378
2378

#4 x Forest (4ED), Basic Land Forest, 
2379
2379
2379
2379

#4 x Forest (ICE), Basic Land Forest, 
2746
2746
2746
2746

#4 x Forest (ICE), Basic Land Forest, 
2747
2747
2747
2747

#3 x Forest (ICE), Basic Land Forest, 
2748
2748
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infect was on a list for decks i can make, so i made it - need to check if this is better/different than the AI infect deck already in AI folder

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#NAME:Rawsugar Mono Blue Agro Control
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#    Creatures                         #
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#3 x Murkfiend Liege (EVE), {2}{g/u}{g/u}{g/u}, Creature Horror, 4/4, 
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#4 x Phantasmal Dragon (M12), {2}{u}{u}, Creature Dragon Illusion, 5/5, flying; 
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#4 x Dungeon Geists (DKA), {2}{u}{u}, Creature Spirit, 3/3, flying; 
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#    Spells                            #
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#4 x Counterspell (LEB), {u}{u}, Instant, 
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#4 x Control Magic (2ED), {2}{u}{u}, Enchantment Aura, 
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#1 x Remove Soul (5ED), {1}{u}, Instant, 
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#1 x Preemptive Strike (PTK), {1}{u}, Instant, 
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#4 x Repulse (INV), {2}{u}, Instant, 
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#4 x Exclude (INV), {2}{u}, Instant, 
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#3 x Dream Fracture (EVE), {1}{u}{u}, Instant, 
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#1 x False Summoning (ME4), {1}{u}, Instant, 
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#1 x Mind Control (M11), {3}{u}{u}, Enchantment Aura, 
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#2 x Negate (M13), {1}{u}, Instant, 
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#    Lands                             #
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#4 x Island (6ED), Basic Land Island, 
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#4 x Island (6ED), Basic Land Island, 
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#4 x Island (MRQ), Basic Land Island, 
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#4 x Island (MRQ), Basic Land Island, 
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#4 x Island (MRQ), Basic Land Island, 
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#4 x Island (MRQ), Basic Land Island, 
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wanted to use dominus of fealty as a threat but AI kept using lands...

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#NAME:Rawsugar Green Agro
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#    Creatures                         #
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#4 x Llanowar Elves (LEA), {g}, Creature Elf Druid, 1/1, 
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#4 x Broodhatch Nantuko (ONS), {1}{g}, Creature Insect Druid, 1/1, 
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#4 x Groundbreaker (PLC), {g}{g}{g}, Creature Elemental, 6/1, trample; haste; treason; 
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#4 x Tarmogoyf (FUT), {1}{g}, Creature Lhurgoyf, 0/1, 
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#4 x Fyndhorn Elves (MED), {g}, Creature Elf Druid, 1/1, 
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#4 x Noble Hierarch (CFX), {g}, Creature Human Druid, 0/1, exalted; 
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#4 x Dungrove Elder (M12), {2}{g}, Creature Treefolk, 0/0, opponentshroud; 
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#4 x Boggart Ram-Gang (PD2), {r/g}{r/g}{r/g}, Creature Goblin Warrior, 3/3, haste; wither; 
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#4 x Strangleroot Geist (DKA), {g}{g}, Creature Spirit, 2/1, haste; undying; 
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#4 x Overrun (M10), {2}{g}{g}{g}, Sorcery, 
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#4 x Forest (EVG), Basic Land Forest, 
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#4 x Forest (EVG), Basic Land Forest, 
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#4 x Forest (MED), Basic Land Forest, 
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#4 x Forest (MED), Basic Land Forest, 
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#4 x Forest (MED), Basic Land Forest, 
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#NAME:BG Weenie Land Destruction
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#3 x Tattermunge Maniac (SHM), {r/g}, Creature Goblin Warrior, 2/1, mustattack; 
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#4 x Inkfathom Infiltrator (SHM), {u/b}{u/b}, Creature Merfolk Rogue, 2/1, unblockable; cantblock; 
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#4 x Diregraf Ghoul (ISD), {b}, Creature Zombie, 2/2, 
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#4 x Stromkirk Noble (ISD), {r}, Creature Vampire, 1/1, 
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#4 x Stone Rain (9ED), {2}{r}, Sorcery, 
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#4 x Wrecking Ball (DIS), {2}{r}{b}, Instant, 
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#3 x Paralyze (MED), {b}, Enchantment Aura, 
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#4 x Sinkhole (ME4), {b}{b}, Sorcery, 
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#4 x Tectonic Rift (M12), {3}{r}, Sorcery, 
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#4 x Devil's Play (ISD), {r}{ }, Sorcery, 
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#3 x Mountain (AVN), Basic Land Mountain, 
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#4 x Mountain (AVR), Basic Land Mountain, 
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#4 x Mountain (AVR), Basic Land Mountain, 
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#3 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
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#4 x Swamp (PD3), Basic Land Swamp, 
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#4 x Swamp (IVG), Basic Land Swamp, 
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Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:07 pm
by pankdm
Nice to see some new AI decks!
I will download your decks and play against them in order to test them.

I was also trying to build something competetive.
I think it's worth mentioning it here so we can come up with something decent.
Here is my version of discard deck:

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#NAME:! Shrieking Rack

#HINT:combo hold(Stupor|myhand)^cast(Stupor|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({2}{B})
#HINT:combo hold(Mind Shatter|myhand)^cast(Mind Shatter|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({1}{B}{B})
#HINT:combo hold(Mind Sludge|myhand)^cast(Mind Sludge|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({4}{B})
#HINT:combo hold(Hymn to Tourach|myhand)^cast(Hymn to Tourach|myhand)^restriction{type(*|opponenthand)~morethan~0}^totalmananeeded({B}{B})

#HINT:alwaysattackwith(Phyrexian Obliterator)
#HINT:good(Bloodgift Demon)

the rack (TSB) * 4
shrieking affliction (RTR) * 3
stupor (TSB) * 4
mind shatter (M10) * 2
mind sludge (ZEN) * 2
hymn to tourach (MED) * 4
vampire nighthawk (M13) * 3
hypnotic specter (M10) * 3
phyrexian obliterator (NPH) * 3
bloodgift demon (ISD) * 2
debtors' knell (GPT) * 2
nezumi shortfang (CHK) * 3
murder (M13) * 4
swamp (RTR) * 22
Probably it's not very strong against aggro decks, but can be a real problem for control and combo.

Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:18 pm
by pankdm
rawsugar wrote: atm my main questions are whether preferred targets can be coded as hints, and whether using alternative costs can be coded
AI is not aware of alternative costs. It's nice feature to have and I think it's not very hard to implement (I've already put it in my long TODO list, but not sure when I will do it)
rawsugar wrote: stabwhisker is a litte bit cheating here
Personally I would prefer to have "fair" decks (without this kind of cheats)

rawsugar wrote: AI couldnt handle Garruk and skipped the draw on Garruk's packleader, also dont have thragtusk in current available sets
what do you mean that thragtusk is not available?
It is in mtg.txt.
rawsugar wrote: Im not sure AI can use flashback
The same as alternative costs: AI can't use flashback.

Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:47 pm
by rawsugar
great thx:)
AI uses bloodgift on player so that needs to be replaced (still really wish hints culd fix targeting)
also I crashed twice playing vs this, but just did some serious remodeling of AI folder so not neccesarily the deck.

finally unmake>murder imo:)

but agree about stabwhisker, guess ill keep testing your deck and see if AI can flip nezumi. somehow I didnt find nezumi when making the deck...

so that was fast - nezumi does NOT work in my version (still havent compiled though - guess I need to if im going to do this but the program suggested asked for credit information which i dislike giving out online...

nezumi will cause me to discard up to 3 times pr turn without using mana. Does he works for you?

still havent tested debtors knell

Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:02 pm
by pankdm
Are you sure that AI is using bloodgift not on itself? (If yes then it's interesting, because when I am playing against it -- it uses it on itself)
Due to this hint it should use it on itself:

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#HINT:good(Bloodgift Demon)

Actually, I want to replace murder with this http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... eid=373575 (when theros will be available) and besides unmake has anti-synergy with debtor's knell.
But anyway, unmake will also be pretty solid here.

Regarding nezumi: AI flips it pretty often against me.

Btw, which version are you using and on which platform?
And what do you mean by credit information? And what program are you talking about?

Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:11 pm
by rawsugar
ok then I do need to update to do what I want - i'm using 18.6 without compilation. i tried to compile yesterday and got here
https://github.com/WagicProject/wagic/wiki/Compiling

which got me to github for windows here:
http://windows.github.com/

it says its free but still wanted credit information.

I'll figure it out somehow.

Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:16 pm
by rawsugar
ok now using 19.0 from wololo unofficial release 12th of may - is that current enough?

o god the font and background is sooo cool:)

Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:24 pm
by pankdm
rawsugar wrote: which got me to github for windows here:
http://windows.github.com/
As usual there are different ways to do something.
1. You can download the whole repo as zip archive using this link: https://github.com/WagicProject/wagic/a ... master.zip
2. Or you can use any other program that can work with git repo (For example from here: http://git-scm.com/downloads/guis)
Note: that you don't even need to register on github as stated on wiki (probably, wiki should be updated accordingly, but I hear about all this issues for the first time).

Sorry, I am using Linux and do most of the stuff from command-line so can't really advise any specific GUI program.

Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:31 pm
by pankdm
rawsugar wrote:ok now using 19.0 from wololo unofficial release 12th of may - is that current enough?
I think so: AFAIK hints were implemented before 12th of may.
But did you try the more recent unofficial releases by Tacoghandi from here: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3380 (see first message)?

Re: AI decks

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:24 pm
by rawsugar
got that one as well now.

Still seems like bloodgif is giving cards away though, but that fixed nezumi. fixing my deck w him then.

and your deck works, dang but discard is effective^^