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Why you should stop asking for a release for The Flow’s 3.68 Henkaku exploit

Acid_Snake

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39 Responses

  1. Carlos Henrique

  2. jake

    I agree with everything, but this: “Besides, there are no homebrews for the PS Vita, so we all know the native kernel exploit will be used for piracy anyways.”
    perhaps I have misunderstood your point lol

    • andoryuu3

      Easily the most debatable statement he made. I actually got a little furious when I read that— everything else in the article I agree with, just not that. It makes me feel like he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, even though I know he does.

  3. henrygotmojo

    Well respect

  4. Richard

    > PS Vita is powerful enough to emulate the PS2, at least with a compatibility similar to, or even better than, a non-BC PS3.

    Hahahahaha it’s been a long since I had a good “geek” laugh.

    You don’t know anything about hardware! It’s completely impossible for such a weak ARM CPU to emulate a complex thing like a PS2…the GS had embedded DRAM,with bandwidth speeds that even the PS3 RSX can’t replicate,even modern PC’s have trouble emulating a PS2.

    Actually it’s a miracle that the vita can “emulate” a PSP,the magic behind the miracle is called “hybrid hardware/software emulation” if the emulation was pure software the PSP emu would go @ 5 FPS.

    • Spaarks

      Thats true but it has nothing to do with DRAM …lol.
      its many the cpu and the fact that there was never an inject point for a ps2 Emulation or “visualisation of ps2” like with ps1 games or PsP games made by the developer. Old Source like NES emu or SNES aer no problem and dont even require an inject point for the code to run. Only the “homebrew” enabler. Which henkaku provides 🙂

      • Richard

        Of course it has something to do with the eDRAM….how can you emulate something like that on a weak arm CPU with a weak GPU? You can’t (most of the times) an android phone 8x times more powerful than the vita can’t.

        The PS3 can’t really do that either,most of the PS2 games for the PS3 run slower,and most of the games that work require sony’s patches,even the PS4 has trouble emulating PS2 games.

        You don’t know anything about software/hardware dude,you’re just like the author,I’m a real engineer and I tell you,there’s NO WAY a vita can emulate a PS2…

      • ProCyoN

        I can perfectly emulate PS2 images….. And all I have is a core i7 laptop with a basic nvidia chip….. Nothing special if you’re a Steam gamer as well…

    • Stevorkz

      “even modern PC’s have trouble emulating a PS2”

      Not sure what you consider a modern PC but I havnt come across a ps2 game that I cant run at full speed 50/60fps on my ryzen 5, 8gb ram and gtx 1060 and the games look absolutely gorgeous. PCSX2 has come a long way

      But ya bottom line the emotion engine is a difficult engine to emulate. In comparison, ps4 is full on x86 architecture so we will see a stable ps4 emulater much sooner than we saw a stable ps2 one as x86 is not hard to emulate due to it being universal known. According to wiki the emotion engine was MIPS based and even had a custom instruction set.

    • Pinkerton

      I’ll take Acid_Snake’s word over some no name “engineer”

    • Dangerously

      If the Vita has a “weak ARM CPU”, then why is the performance always pitted between the PS2 and PS3 in performance?
      “PS2 games for the PS3 run slower”… You are talking about ports or original games (backwards comparability)? The first run of PS3 had all the needed hardware to natively run PS2 games (all games working 100%). Later when they lowered the price of the console, they tried to emulate the chips they removed and failed miserably. This broke many games and instead of fixing the emulation, they resorted to patches. This in no way means the PS3 is poor at running the games, it just means Sony has no idea how to emulate their hardware.

  5. Taronish3

    A PS 2 emulator on vita would be cool to see in time to come happy days will come upon us.

  6. Ayn

    It seems like Sony probably did something to scare these devs. Seems like everyone is backing off. Oh well, I can’t blame them for getting scared. I’ll be patiently waiting for the leak.

  7. sora machi

    =_=a

  8. Charles Fasano

    I don’t mind waiting as it could mean more exploits could be found and it will be harder, longer for Sony to patch it. Sony can’t just release a new firmware update without properly testing it to make sure it doesn’t break something else. Sure they want to patch the exploits but not at the cost of breaking something and getting backlash from legitimate users. This isn’t the 80’s where there was no internet and people didn’t post everything bad about a product and it would take a while before the public would hear anything bad about it.

    Take all the time you need.

  9. Ryuji

    releasing the exploit surely would mean an upcoming inevitable 3.69 just to fix it , and at this point, i personaly think, that there’s not much things that you can do in 3.68 that you can’t do on 3.65 and even 3.60. And personaly, I would prefer a release after Catherine Full Body :3

  10. MrKopf

    I see what this replying is hinting at and trying to say but you can’t compare the amazing Fl0w with a certain Frenchie who is indeed taunting and doing it for his ego. TheFl0w doesn’t use his real name (what hacker does that? No one. It’s part of hacker culture) to tell Sony how stupid they are. So nice try here.

  11. A_nub

    A_nub is

  12. Chris

    Great article!

  13. wololover

    Very interesting read. Theres a lot of Discussion and Speculation From End users on why devs release or do not release. This post opened my eyes a bit more, thank you

  14. I agree. The longer things take the better usually.I know this is frustrating for people on a higher firmwsre than 3.60 but, there is the option out there for people who want 3.60 and below firmwares by picking up a 2nd vita or buying a pulled board.
    I’ve got my personal Vita at 3.65 enso and as it stands I cannot see many reasons to be on a higher firmare besides to pkay a handful of games.
    I do have a Vita at the current firmware which I have to keep uodated and would be nice to have an exploit for but I’m not too fussed.
    If you can pick up a second Vita.

  15. ps3king1336

    didn’t sony said their eta is 2020 from a website that’s non-English

  16. kok0ro

    ok I thought there was some huge news or sumthing :V

  17. Snintendog

    Sooo backups ruined CFW for you because it made the OFW update? Sounds like that was your issue for not taking precaution for it.

  18. deathblade200

    “PS Vita is powerful enough to emulate the PS2” I’d argue against this considering the fact it struggles to even run most of its own games at atleast 30fps even with oclockvita and also the fact the ps2 had a 299 MHz processor while the vita has 444 MHz processor which isn’t a whole lot to work with… heck even snes vc on the 3ds requires use of a 804 MHz quad core processor when the original system had a 3.58 MHz single core processor…

  19. Tha_Dat

    Lol, post by a major leaker

  20. Poptheweasel100

    What’s research? Goodness, these articles are baffling with how stupid these claims get. Previously, we had “3.65 can’t play backups!” Uh, I’m doing that right now. Now the Vita can emulate the PS2 almost perfectly? HOW!?

  21. Tha_Dat

    LOL post by a major leaker.
    PS2 emulation?! Seriously?!

  22. Ygolonac

    hah I just wish I could get adrenaline going on 3.68 like VHBL. The full hack is a novelty for me.

  23. Cade-H

    Is 3.65 Enso without 3.60 delayed as well? Sitting on a new Slim on 3.65 and the wait is torture :/

  24. Rob

    The PSP lives on today as a jailbroken device, and this was made possible because it has been fully exploited through the end of its support cycle with Sony. Commercial interest in the PS Vita is dying down, and it is likewise nearing the end of support from Sony. If we want the PS Vita to have a future in homebrew and retro gaming, it is important for hackers not to tip their hand too early. Sony still has an obligation to protect the interests of its commercial contributors, and they will make an effort to provide due diligence until the Vita is officially end-of-life. There are plenty of exploitable Vitas available for homebrew developers – the real bottleneck is learning the GPU hardware. A little patience, please, and soon enough it will be open Vitas for everybody. After all, unbroken Vitas are cheap and plentiful for those who need to play the latest commercial games too, and piracy is no excuse for haste.

  25. Shane

    Powerful enough to emulate the PS2? What a load of BS

  26. simonizer

    PS2 emulation on the PS Vita? Now that sounds funny.
    PS3 can do it, sure. But it’s also backed up by a 3.2GHz CPU and an emulator developed by Sony. If Sony had decided to do the same for the Vita, that would maybe have been possible – but even that would be a stretch. Considering the PS Vita is working with a 444MHz ARM CPU (compared to the PS2’s 299MHz CPU), this won’t happen. Even my laptop’s i7 (ok, it’s only a Surface Pro 3, but still an i7 nonetheless) or my smartphone’s SD835 run most PS2 games at half speed only.

  27. Gianluca Di Maggio

    My question is: What will work? Will Adrenaline work on 3.68 Henkaku? I just hope it does. I will definitly stay on 3.68 and wait, greetings go out to theFlow, you give us Vita owners hope!

    • Fallenleader

      From what I understand, it won’t be much different aside from no enso. I can live with non perma patch for the simple standpoint I can play newer games and still have the advantage of henkaku.

  28. Fallenleader

    A few days late, but claiming there is no homebrew for the Vita is flat ignorance. Being fair, it is limited in number, especially in comparison to how many people actually play them on a regular basis.

    I for one have the tools sitting and waiting, and plans to get another vita when the release for the later firm becomes imminent, simply because it is more difficult to find a 3.60 unit that i feel it is worth. Once this becomes a reality, I have plans to start releasing more homebrew for the device that people might actually consider worth playing.

    As much negative things S&P has done, the one good thing he truly did was make Unity for Vita available to the public. This opens up the possibility for me to port my games I am deving over without the hindrance of my limited C++ knowledge

  29. Frezzno

    Good read! Keep up the good work Acid_Snake.

  30. Nova

    I just want to edit my Persona 4 Golden Save but i’m fine with waiting

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