What the latest 3DS Firmware does to your hacked 3DS
3DS Firmware 11.0 was released a few days ago, with apparently some major changes that could impact people running hacks. Here’s what’s been discovered so far:
A9LH and emuNAND
If you’re using arm9loaderhax, (a.k.a A9LH), it’s safe to update SysNAND and emuNAND/redNAND. If you’re an emuNAND/redNAND user, you can update those but not SysNAND!
Gateway users are also apparently unaffected by the update
Firmware 11.0 introduces more ASLR
Address randomization makes the system more secure, and some hacks including Cubic Ninja (ninjhax) and Ocarina Of Time 3D (oot3dhax) are now more difficult to launch. They still run though. Additionally Cubic Ninja is now unable to access its payload code from an internet connection. Smealum is working on that, as the payload could be minimized to fit directly into the QR code alone.
- Related: you can now preorder Pokemon Moon and Pokemon Sun for 3DS.
SuperMysteryChunkHax and (v*)hax are unaffected. Note that these are not primary exploits and still need one of the other hacks in order to be installed.
Other fixes have been implemented in firmware 11, which could break online play or some applications that rely on arm11 kernel access. This apparently breaks Retroarch for example, although the latest commit of CFW Luma3DS fixes that (literally by re-introducing the backdoor that has been removed by Nintendo).
Downgrades
The latest 3DS Firmware 11.0 is blocking downgrading techniques as of now: it patched popular exploit memchunkhax which was used for downgrading the latest exploits, and also introduces some constraints that will make existing downgraders not work (even if new kernel exploits are found) without significant updates.
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Yeah I guess I won’t be hacking my main 3DS, like, ever. But I guess this might be an incentive to hardmod my currently bricked backup 3DS later down the line, should I ever think of a reason to need a hacked 3DS.
You can only do a hardmod if you made a NAND backup.
Otherwise, you are sc*** over and would have to send it to Nintendo for repairs.
wait nvm. There was still the downgrade hardmod method but not sure how viable it is.
@wololo you can still downgrade via hardmod and patching native firm….
That broken title though lmao
they still can’t mess with arms9 Yay. yay
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It actually doesnt patch memchunkhax2.1, not properly anyways. You can still use it to install signed/legit cias, but there is now a hardcoded minimum title version list in the firmware which prevents us from downgrading by installing older versions of all system titles. The hardware downgrade method that involves flashing an older version of native firm to the NAND chip still works though. An arm9 exploit would also allow downgrading (though a downgrade would be unnecessary at that point.
I’m on 10.6. any chance to perform some exploit?
Downgrade to 9.2, A9LH hack your 3DS then update to the latest.
Here is how to downgrade: https://gbatemp.net/threads/noob-friendly-guide-to-downgrading-your-3ds-from-fw-10-7.418125/
Better A9LH guide:
https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki
This. So far I’m only like halfway though. People weren’t kidding that 3ds is a “process” and of course the risks are there. I bricked my 3ds twice already.
You can only use Ocarina of Time and Cubic Ninja to downgrade on that firmware. Browserhax got patched out.
OoT is pretty cheap currently at $20 but I’m sure that is better than buying a $70 Sky3DS.
OoThax is also considered a secondary exploit as setting it up requires extra hardware (like a PowerSaves dongle), or access to a hacked system to install the save. If you are on 10.6 or 10.7 and do not have any exploits set up already, you might as well just go buy cubic ninja.
Not trying to be rude but, it’s been an ENTIRE year since the revitalize competition happened. Did like Rejuvenate development stop after that, because there has been no words about native Vita hacking after “that” happened.
Yup, pretty much. I thought injecting (a significant amount of) money into the Native Vita hacking scene would help kickstart things, but Rejuvenate was too constrained, it seems, and people basically moved on. Sad, but that’s how I see it.
Hopefully vitashell and retroarch receives some updates now and then… Oh well… sighs…
Don’t feel sad. You did your best. Almost every thing wrong with the Vita, official and unofficial, is Sony’s fault.
Wish there were more people like you out there helping out the vita scene
what is it that people even get out of homebrew on 3ds at this point? I mean CFW with emunand etc sure, I get the point of all that (and have it and love it) but last I checked (about 3 months ago) the homebrew scene was awful for 3ds, 1 gba emulator that cant play squat, a snes and nes emulator that does its job…but not much else, and the ability to install certain patches etc like menuhax etc…but I cant see the big appeal here
I guess hacking proprietary hardware is just a novelty now a days. Back then it was valuable for the PSP since it was a piece of hardware that loads of people had and it was the only low cost way of making handheld games, but now, I guess it’s just about hacking for the sake of hacking. I don’t mind that since it gives me absolute control over the hardware I paid money for, but that’s all I can see it really being about. Getting a $50 smartphone from a well known manufacture is cheap and easy.
What? The 3DS has built in GBA backward compatibility through AGB_FRIM. Though gpsp works fine too. We’ve got GB, GBA, SNES, Genesis, CPS1, CPS2, DOS, etc emulators. We’ve got lots of ports and homebrew games too. Don’t pull *** out of your *** just because you’re butthurt that the vita scene blows.
ReisNAND can update to 11 the reisNAND??
yep, i’m a dopey ŃØØß so i apologize in advance.
if i only want to play ‘any region’ games [orig.cart or fom SDcard] on my O3DS 10.7 (not interested in playing only homebrew games) do i still need Cubic Ninja, etc. cart to get my O3DS set up for what i want? what is the best ‘hax’ to use?
every time i open my O3DS i get the SYSTEM UPDATE ready to install pop-up, so i wanted to attempt this mod asap… but i’m terrified as ***.
any help would be helpful. \m/ô„ô\m/
I’m on CFW 10.7.0-32U (my 3ds boots into CFW which is emuNAND if I’m not mistaken, sorry I don’t know a whole lot about this topic. . ) My question is, can I safwtly update to the latest FW or should i just stay on 10.7 and play it safe?
From the article above:
“If you’re an emuNAND/redNAND user, you can update those but not SysNAND!”