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78 Responses

  1. I’ve tried looking for things which will help us narrow down the firmware and all I could find is that this is definitely being done on a firmware below 2.50. 2.50 updated the PSN icon, renamed that whole option playstation network/account management icon

    http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PS4Yukimura-01.jpg

    • wololo

      Thanks, that’s good information

      • Yoyo

        Hmm, so let me get this. Besides code execution (which seems to be on github) nothing is public yet, and there is no interest by anybody to release anything? And they expect their contribution of Linux patches to be useful how?

        If you question gateway for their behavior, shouldn’t you do the same here? Or at least prove somewhat of a discussion to it.

      • HarmfulMushroom

        Someone below further narrowed it down to being 1.72 or below, so this console they were using was definitely not on 1.76.

    • Yifan Lu

      No need to read too much into it. If they hacked > 1.76 they would have said it. The entry point seems to be the same WebKit exploit since they didn’t have access to the browser (requires psn access) (and had to use the help trick).

  2. Zeke

    Doesn’t bragging about the exploit, giving not too much detail on how they did it and not releasing it properly in any form make them kinda showoffs? They’ve pointed other hackers in the right direction, I guess, but it doesn’t seem very “open source” if that makes sense.

    • Yay

      Shut up be grateful we hacked it now

    • Meh

      I fully agree. I need to work on an exploit (or wait for somebody who doesn’t suffer from your superiority complex) to join the Linux development? That’s your ideology and approach? What a failure! Release it or don’t but don’t bug us with your ego boosts (which are probably compensations for a lot of other things). What’s with the stupid closed society *** you failures.

      • nyx

        Remember what they said at Console Hacking 2013? They don’t think anyone cares. Everyone only care about piracy. It’s not worth their risk and efforts to release anything.

        • Zeke

          Which is sad really, because piracy isn’t what I’m personally interested in at all. I would find Linux useful on the PS4 to run emulators and for Kodi so it could easily be turned into a proper media centre, not the poor attempt we have via the stock firmware. Linux with full network/USB support would mean it could stream from home NAS boxes and use an IR remote via something like FLIRC to make it a fairly decent home theatre solution.

          • Crzo

            There is something similar that can play emulators, run Linux with full USB, network and streaming support! It’s called a fu-ken PC!!! If youbreally eanted to do that.

            But I guess is easier to lie to yourself that you want to do all those features in a machine that was designed for other purposes.

            We all know what you want kernel access for, you don’t fool anyone here.

          • Zeke

            Hey Crzo – actually you have NO idea what my motivations are for wanting Linux on the PS4. But thank you for assuming you do 😉

            I have a couple of PCs, laptops and a Fire TV all perfectly capable of doing emulation/streaming as it happens, my Vita does some emulation stuff too. I’m fully aware I can already do this (I have been able to in some shape or form for about the last decade), thank you again.

            It’s not a case of needing it (in fact I have enough things to do most of those jobs already), I just think it would be amazing to see it used as a home theatre/emulation machine, taking it beyond the box that Sony keep it in. I can afford any PS4 games I want new or nearly new used (not that there’s many, still getting way more use out of my PS3/Vita) so I could care less about piracy. There’s no lying to myself here. Like the hackers who find the exploits, they might not NEED to do it, they just want to see if it CAN be done. And off the back of that I’d want to see if I could run Kodi on PS4 via Linux with working peripherals and streaming.

            Maybe you should consider that you don’t know what people’s motivations are before you jump to conclusions like this.

  3. dkabot

    To be fair, if you can run normal-ish x86 code, a whole slew of free and non-free things are readily available. Most homebrews in the scene were emulators anyway, but if you can just grab RetroArch it’s kinda pointless to try.

  4. Manuel Eduardo Koegler

    Cool that it’s confirmed, uncool they won’t release the exploit for BS reasons.

    • n

      Yeah, being sued by Sony is a bs reason. We all know that’s what they’re really afraid of, after seeing what they did to GeoHot.

      • Meh

        Yes it is. Nobody was ever found guilty by hacking a sony console. They either won or like GeoHot simply signed an agreement. Additionally, they got donations and job offers afterwards which probably yielded them more then they had before. Being sued is total BS. Additionally, they could just release it anonymously if they didn’t need to attach their name to it.

        Nobody should care and simply walk away from their scream for attention making it clear that this BS doesn’t matter the slightest ^^

        • ranfan

          fully ignoring the fact that geohot had to take donations to pay off his legal fees, which weren’t exactly low

          • Meh

            Nope, exactly as I said. That they got donations to cope with legal issues. In addition geohot got some fame (and the money that comes with it) and job offers. Which is neat, considering that he is more talk than skill.

      • Manuel Eduardo Koegler

        In that case they should drop the tough guy act and at least own up to that being the case.

  5. Yay

    I can do Linux and emulators practically EVERYWHERE nowadays that’s pointless lmao

    I don’t care about that I’m just gonna use this to pirate games that’s all were mainly after, I’m not afraid to hide it haha

    • Tokita

      And indeed you don’t need to feel guilt about it since it’s just breaking a temporary exclusive privilege, or a limited time printing monopoly.

      It’s very sad that people don’t know this

  6. Cr0w

    so we can run Pirated games on ps4 by this jailbreak ?

  7. Ricky D

    “They however stated that people wishing to use Linux on the PS4 should “bring their own exploit", adding “PS4 security is crappy enough that you don’t need us for that". ”

    Either release it fully or don’t bother at all. I don’t care about you bragging what you can do. These guys are a disgrace to the whole concept of any scene which is supposed to be about opening these consoles up freely and they are certainly a disgrace to the very heart and soul of what Linux is about

    • Meh

      You are my man Ricky 🙂

    • nope

      You guys are all really harsh… They’re releasing linux for PS4 but leaving the method of how to get it to run up to us; I’d say they did at least 75-80% (maybe more maybe less) of the hard work already, up to us to handle the last little bit. And besides the most likely method they used to launch it is already public knowledge.

      • Meh

        It’s true, at least they share their knowledge. And I applaud them for it. But how am I gonna contribute to, use and extend it? I need to implement bad iret to do Linux development … ? That’s useful how? The mentality is completely flawed. As soon as a larger group of people wanna contribute to a Linux on the PS4, you need a public exploit. There is no way around it. You think there is a way to filter the bad effects from the good ones? So Why not share it or leave the whole thing be? Ego! That’s what bugs me. This is a giant PR show, which isn’t about Linux either. They got an awesome opportunity to kick-start the whole scene into Linux. If they wait, the exploid will be used actively for the first time for what else? The whole approach is a mental fail.

        • Meh

          And the problem with that ego PR trip is that it sends “ego PR trip is good” signals into the scene. Which it doesn’t need and which is Aldo-style unhealthy. Weirdly, I believe that these people and their approach to the topic actually furthers a pure copyright-violation mentality because they don’t send the right impulses.

    • luggage

      I kinda like that they don’t release it. Baller as *** man. They proved they can do what they did and that’s all they’re out for, the challenge. They’re not out there to make any “scene” happy and they don’t care if some 14 year old console kiddies are thanking them or calling them based. They know it’s just some kids who want free games and it’s boring.

      • Zeke

        It’s not just an ego trip that people object to, it would be nice to know exactly how it was done so it could be easily replicated, the way it is now it’s not just enough to have a PS4 running a firmware many versions behind but you apparently need to know how to do the badiret exploit as well. So it’s a case of waiting until someone proves whether or not it’s a software and/or hardware exploit (probably both combined?), does that, gets and runs the build of Linux they supply and THEN leaks the whole method in full as proof of concept. That’s how I see it.

  8. animalovich

    high hopes 🙂

  9. mahneh

    does anyone else see this kind of thing.. ps4…it is almost pc.. i would take ps4 to boot up on virtual machine.. i see i can buy same power components cheaper on x86 machine than ps4….

    • nah

      Eventually this will be possible (boot to PS4) with a good amount of patching. However, the components you need to buy are not much cheaper (at the same level of performance). You can just look up consumer hardware to the same specs. I think, in 15 years somebody may tackle it on there nuclear powered quantum computer to play “old school” games from the past long gone (before the big war).

  10. GeelyBeam

    You’ll cry when they will publicly realease the trick of porting the exploit to higher firmwares (max is 3.10, still don’t know how sony’s found about it and corrected it on 3.11)…I will never understand why people email them about thing we find, if only they’ve had money for leaking…

  11. wolowverulowlo

    I can tell you that this will only work on ps4 models cuh 1000-1001 the other later models were hardware revised preventing exploiting. This isnt new sony did the same with the ps3 model 3000-40xx models.Hardware and modding on the mobo is the only way to do some kind of hacking which is ashame.

  12. Keko

    This is quite simple, FailOver has found out that Marvell runs the GPU on HW mode, this means that ANY KIND OF PS4 GAMES can RUN/EXECUTE on a simple PS4 Linux system with the correct LIBS on it. So, there is no need for KEYS or to HACK anything else.

    What this means:

    PS4 is full hacked!

    There is no way to SONY fix it, it is impossible due to a HARDWARE system.

    Thanks Marvell to this ***!

    • luggage

      everytime someone says “this can never be patched! no going back now, etc etc” they get proven wrong and an update fixes it and it’s back to the cat and mouse game. I remember people saying the same stuff about PS3. I could be proven wrong but I wouldn’t get overly sure

      • keko

        This is hardware impossible to patch, the way it was manufactured it is a simple double flash memory.

        What I mean even with new cryptograph and whatsoever they cant change the hardware only the software layer. The CURRENT hardware will never be patched.

        What the HACKER SCENE has found out is that BSD executables on PS4 are PURE HARDWARE DEPENDENT (HDS), so, in the actual scenario once the correct libs are PORTED to the linux or even FREEBSD 9, we will be enable to RUN any kind of PS4 PKG.

        I do not agree that this can be patched, but I agree that they can redesign the BIOS/HDS/SWLayer, so all the run be exclusive on SW besides HDS.

        The most important findout is the way executables run on PS4, as the AUTHORIZATION to the KERNEL level is being done by HW SOUTHBRIDGE, this is the exploit used to gain access to the KERNEL by itself. Also when you send the PKG to the HW it does not CHECK ANYTHING, only EXECUTE, so, WHAT IS FOR KEYS??? ONLY FOR SOFTWARE LAYER BS….

        Compreende hermano? hahahaha

        • lmao

          how can hardware run encrypted executable from pkg, i smell ***, the pkg needs to be unpacked first and executable needs to be decrypted before processor can run it. lol

    • Brenza

      First of all you’ll need an entry point for the exploit, sony will only need to patch those to (at lease ttemporarely) stop us all.
      By the way never underestimate what bugs softwares can “patch” if you run them on a “closed system”

    • Psgamer

      So playing pirated games is possible you say ?

  13. Hermano II

    Si hermano coprendo gracias for explaining Hermano

  14. lmao

    And they still can’t run linux on Vita. lol

  15. Hermano II