Rejuvenate: Yay or Nay?

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  1. 5ham5h33r

    I really would appreciate rejuvenate more if only it would work for 3.52!!!

  2. sloppycrap

    I just got a Vita not that long ago. Updated from OFW 1.06 to OFW 3.18, installed TN-V and TN-X, and things are good. I’m going to have to finish off Killzone: Liberation on my PSPGo, but I can play almost everything else I’ve bought, no thanks to Sony. The only things I’m missing now are PSN access (no big loss, I load stuff from my PS3 and I don’t play multiplayer games) and my legit copy of Rival Schools 2 off the Japanese PSN doesn’t work. I’m sure by the time I get through my PS1/PSP backlog, there will be a reason to upgrade again.

  3. Rolenzo

    It’s an interesting time to be a Vita owner, for sure.

    I recommend owning multiple vitas for a few reasons. I want access to perfect ps1/psp emulation as well as rejuvenate’s wonderful emulators. But I also want to go online and use my PS4 remoteplay.

    Seriously, Spelunky is the best couch co-op game I’ve ever played (particularly with a ps4 and 3 vitas simultaneously) and I recommend everyone try it as it was free on ps plus.

    https://youtu.be/L7B3W8U6fOM?t=18m31s

  4. Brownie

    Yay for me I have been away for a while so I’m looking forward to trying some if the new homebrews

  5. Ch41r4s

    is really difficult setup of rejuvenate, so what?, I had a hard time setup, I’m not American and English is not my native language, but once the setup is done It is very easy to run homebrew, and homebrew is of very good quality more than psp, in the last few days I’ve enjoyed playing vitaquake the PSP can not run

  6. X6009

    Nay, it isn’t worth it. In all honesty, there is no way homebrew is more important than PSN or worth the hassle.
    I am ok with using PSP homebrew, since PSP had MOST of homebrew I might have wanted(look, it even had a PC98 emulator port(abandoned half way, but running some games fine), something that, to my memory, no other console has, especially cra…Vita)

    PSN is not only for online gaming as in multiplayer. There are games that simply require internet connection for either gameplay, or some features. So to have the whole game experience as intended(AT LEAST as intended) it is required to be able to connect to PSN.
    Kinda better than questionable homebrew, which might be abandoned by developer, or might simply not have the functionality you want.

  7. JacktheJolly

    Did YifanLu purposely make rejuvenate a daily reactivation or is that just how the system has to work?

    • Fox

      It’s a PSM exploit, and PSM had that restriction with developers to begin with so there was probably no feasible alternative.

  8. alpmaster

    I agree with everything you said TYPHOON_NEON this article is great. Yeah the 3DS homebrew was slow but now we got pretty good GBA emulation from the ported PSP homebrew Mgba =D. Personally all this talk about Rejuvenate i was wondering about the contest is it still going on to see what capabilities devs can make possible for homebrew or emulators?

    • LordBurrito

      This was terrible to honest. We have full speed GBA emulation on 3DS now. gpSP runs at 60fps on o3DS (on 9.2 or below) and n3DS (on any firmware, even the latest one)….

  9. Fox

    Good article, this is actually why I updated instead of using Rejuvenate. Not because I wanted to play online (though I did want to be ready in case I had to), but because the portability of the Vita is what appeals to me as a homebrew machine. I’d rather use the 3DS for homebrew. Even the defiler seemed like a substitute for a just as unappealing extra step, though I applaud YifanLu and I’m proud of his accomplishments. It just wasn’t for me.

    Also, might I add, you said “which means that over 200,000 people did not mind having to be anchored to the Internet in some way to access their hack, even though Ironhax was available the entire time.”

    I had to use Tubehax to install Ironhax, keep in mind the same goes for probably most of those users.

  10. W wololo

    Is possible a ps vita homebrew…firmware spoofer?

  11. SmurfyD

    I might appreciate it more if it wasn’t locked out of my firmware 3.52. Can’t really get into a project when I’m unable to use it. 🙁

  12. Crzo

    This article seemed interesting at first, I thought it was really going to point if it’s worth the hassle to set up rejuvenate or not.

    Until the author made it a Vita vs 3DS article and started pointing facts wrongly to favor the vita.

    Like the fact that the author clamed that 200,000 people chose to use Tubehax over Ironhax even though it was so impractical and both were available during all this time.

    That’s a total lie for 2 reasons:

    1) They were both announced together and people needed to use Tubehax to install Ironhax, both were free so pretty much every person who setted up Ironhax did it through Tubehax and is included in those 200,000 people.

    2) Ironfall was removed just a few days after being announced so the people that doesn’t grab it in time were at a loss, but YouTube was NEVER removed from the eShop during this 2 months. All the people who missed the opportunity to download Ironfall still had Tubehax available.

    Also, an O3DS with a 9.2 firmware can run SNES/GBA/GAMEBOY/COLOR games at full speed, aside from romhacks and other things, if people updated past 9.2 that’s their problem like people who updated their Vita to 3.52 and missed on Rejuvenate.

    It seems to me that the author’s option is extremely biased towards PS Vita and tried to make Rejuvenate look better than what it is by bashing the 3DS, even go in as far as using the term “Nintendont” … I don’t know if he is trying to convince everyone else how much better is Rejuvenate or just trying to convince himself…

  13. lmao

    Unless psm exploit (rejuvenate) can run without USB and daily activation, i guess not many people would jump into it. I for one decided to just pass the rejuvenate cus it’s not really practical. I might as well sign as indie with Sony Native SDK.

  14. US PS+

    YeY!

  15. yattoz

    You forget one little thing, and it’s the same thing that Sony forgot… It’s not all about the specs, it’s about the games. Right now, the PS Vita is a gaming handheld, and Rejuvenate doesn’t allow it to play games the way it’s meant to be. On the other side, the ePSP is crappy in performance, résolution, but hey, who needs upscaling on games that still are in lower resolution (GBA, NES, Genesis) ? And PSP games are running the best they can, so they’re pixelated but we can’t do any better.

    So ePSP crappy hacks allows the Vita to stay in gaming handheld, where Rejuvenate offers a dreamy platform for developers… but less for the player.
    That’s how I feel now. Anyway, I jumped to 3.52 and I’ll stick to it for some time, because of the email trick (maybe we’ll see some nice tweaks in the future…)

    • Typhoon_Neon

      So what? The Vita has plenty of games. The problem is people instead of buying those games were whining the entire time that the platform had no game for some reason. I have a 64GB card and I have 9 physical games and three pages of Vita game bubbles. I want to have more but the problem is I can’t afford all of that.

      “ePSP is crappy in performance, résolution, but hey, who needs upscaling on games”: I do, I don’t want to strain or ruin my eyesight because I want to play an old game. Plus many emulators on the PSP are still awful no matter how much you tweak them (case in point: 1001 versions of gPSP).

      I have the email trick on 3.51, Don’t see why you would even upgrade for THAT O_o

      /rant

    • anonanon

      Just like how the ps3 is only hackable on one firmware, it’s likely the same will be true on the vita. Sure, another hack might come along, but you can bet anything it’ll be using a vulnerability in PSM as well. Updating past 3.51, when you plan to stay on an outdated firmware anyway, was a mistake.

  16. Kislorod

    Lost half a day trying to setup Rejunivate Unity. Finaly it worked. Used FTP homebrew – working good. Tried few emulators. Some crash on startup, some gave me black screen on loading any ROM. Tired. Not worth it.

    Got N3DS, installed homemenu_hax via browser_hax without major problems. Now playing Donkey Kong Country with 60 fps. Good.

    Final conclusion: will not bother with Vita homebrew untill someone releases a better hack. If noone will do it, the Vita’ll be dead sooner then you expect.

    • Typhoon_Neon

      Lucky you having a N3DS. Most users have an O3DS and homebrew on it sucks. Also themehax and browserhax are just as bad as Rejuvenate: most users can’t access them and you need a hack in order to access a hack. That is ridiculously user-unfriendly.

      • Kislorod

        I heard, that Pre-9.2 O3DS runs most emulators smoothly, cause they have access to kernel exploit. It’s like PSP in its golden days (well, except for PS1 emulator). On N3DS you have several options, how to install the hack (browserhax, ninjahax, smashbroshax). Once you install themehax after it, you are good to go. No need for PC or Android phone, no need for daily reactivation, etc. With HANS you can even make modifications of native 3DS games now (like translation of japanese titles). I’m waiting for N3DS kernel hack 😉 Hope they can make it.

        I like my Vita, cause it has better screen and it is much more comfortable to hold and play. It has much more potential, than even N3DS. But it lacks a proper hack, and it kills it (at least for me).

    • Zero

      It’s already dead

    • :v

      Juat curious: What emulators did you try? because the SNES one works perfect for me

      • Kislorod

        It was Snes Next and NES emulator (don’t remember the name). Maybe I did something wrong during installation of Rejunivate. But FTP server for Rejunivate worked fine, so it WAS working.

  17. gfear

    For me the ease of use of ARK from a bubble on the Vita means I tend to prefer emulators on that rather than rejuevenate even knowing that it is vastly inferior. Ideally if we could launch Rejuevenate from a bubble and not have the daily PSM license issue then that would be ideal.
    Does anybody feel that using Rejuvenate we could break out of that sandbox and get a kernal hack to have complete control of the vita?

  18. sowhat

    you genius apparently dont understand that everyone is waiting to play backups and not another *** emulator you can play perfectly fine on a pc or psp.

  19. ivo2376

    CODBLOPSIII CIABROWSER HYJACK rejuvenate ps3+ps4 ps3proxyservergui+PSVITAUPDATEBLOCKER+WEBIT+massive server AIO lol
    dubbed rejuvenate campaignonline

  20. TehCupcakes

    I don’t even have the option to try Rejuvenate since I recently got a Vita and it’s on 3.55. I love the idea of homebrew. But in reality, I have never found a single piece of homebrew on any system to be a “must-have” besides emulators and ISO running. Yes, media players, ebook readers, and that stuff is all neat, but nothing I would use heavily and couldn’t already do similarly on my phone.

    As a non-PS3 owner with no friends in the area, losing PSN is not worth it for me. (And I don’t have the desire or funds to get a PS3 in the foreseeable future.) Losing PSN would be like saying I’m not interested in taking advantage of the PS+ free games, I don’t care about sales, and I don’t mind never being able to play digital-exclusive games. And trophies, which you didn’t mention. That’s more than 50% of the experience of owning a PS Vita.

    I love the PSPemu and all it offers. I would love to have better emulators, better performance, and more options. But as a consumer, the only thing that would change my mind is if native Vita hacks allowed running PSVita ISOs or if they were available on the latest firmware. When the firmware version updates, I’m going to stay with it even if it means losing my PSP mode hacks, because it’s simply not worth the loss of PSN. The whole “if you have a PS3 argument” is a pretty big if, and not something that everyone can easily rectify.

    • Typhoon_Neon

      “Media Players (…) Phone” ah, I see you enjoy charging your phone every day. Do have fun! 😛

      ” And trophies, which you didn’t mention. That’s more than 50% of the experience of owning a PS Vita.” PFFT HAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry, I can’t take this one seriously. Trophies? 50% of the experience? You are what is wrong with gaming, my friend.

      “Losing PSN would be like saying I’m not interested in taking advantage of the PS+ free games, I don’t care about sales, and I don’t mind never being able to play digital-exclusive games.”

      “free games” that you lose if you refuse to pay them, sales that you still get if you aren’t a PS Plus user and digital-only games you can still play without having PSN on your Vita. I get buyer’s remorse but you are just sounding ridiculous, I’m sorry.

      • Sumatori-kun

        You still need to charge your Vita everyday if you do engage in long hours (5+) of gaming, just like a smartphone.

        You don’t get certain discounts if you’re not subscribed to PS+.

      • TehCupcakes

        I understand your criticisms, but you mostly just misunderstood what I said.

        I was not saying that trophies are 50% of the experience, I was saying PSN as a whole. That entire paragraph was included in that statement, although I may not have made that clear.

        Ok, maybe I should have said “PS+ cheap rentals”, as that’s what it comes down to. Either way, it’s still a great deal for some people, myself included.

        While you can continue to play the games already installed on the Vita, without access to PSN there is no way to purchase and download new games. (Unless you have a PS3, which I don’t.) Correct me if I’m wrong.

  21. Runehasa

    I honestly gave up on all these Vita hacks awhile ago myself. Rather than gimp my vita to play psp games and emulators games I instead bought a cheap 30 dollar psp that I keep around for those purposes. I think if and when the vita is finally opened up to pirate actual vita games or psn games this scene will explode. Until then I will keep checking in and keeping my fingers crossed.

  22. Manuel Eduardo Koegler

    I have to say the 3ds homebrew community is way better then you make it out to be.
    You have a lot more entry points as opposed to the vita, not just dependant on outside factors like a dns, but also local solutions like ironhax, ninjhax and oothax, and they all allow firmware spoof.
    Provided you’re still on 9.2- you also have kernel access basically granting complete control over the 3ds.
    I am interested in a vita but that’s just for one simple reason, ps3 remote play, because until open remote play is ported to android, the vita is basically the only way to go for it, but even that requires a ps3 with cfw on it.
    A lot of hassle for basically one feature, because outside of playing vita games, most other features like psp and psx emulation can be performed on smartphones with a lot more options.

    • Zeke

      Ugh, this “smartphones can do it better” mentality is exactly the reason dedicated handheld consoles are dying in the first place.

      1) No physical buttons. This is huge. Ever tried to use PS4 Remote Play app on an Android phone with so many buttons to map to the screen? It’s horrible. Gunks up your screen. IMO carrying a DualShock controller around to play games on your phone is overkill.
      2) If your battery dies while playing games, you can’t continue to play games, and nor do you have a working phone. If you like being tethered to a wall socket or carrying around one of those heavy 20000mAH charging bricks then no problem, I guess, just so you can do it all on your phone.
      3) No notifications/noises/vibrations coming from the phone you’re also using for gaming every few minutes distracting your focus on the game (flight mode is your friend).
      4) Phat Vita has a great screen, OLED that looks better than similar OLED screens I’ve had on the Galaxy S3 and the regular backlight LCD on my still very nice HTC One M8. One that only gets greasy if I play touch-heavy games, unlike as mentioned in point 1 where every game will do that to your screen if you can even adjust to playing on a flat sheet of plastic with almost zero tactile feedback.

      As ever it’s just opinions, but smartphone gaming just doesn’t cut it for some people, myself included. Real buttons on a dedicated machine with it’s own power source is better than trying to live with a smartphone which is a jack of all trades master of none.

  23. wusb

    easy, run native homebrew without license file :/

  24. Panzer

    Well, too late for me to try this. Besides, I don’t have a PS3 so I’ve no way of getting games on there normally outside of PSN, it seems.

  25. Sky Yuki

    Meh I guess
    I have my PS Vita as cool brick right now

    Not interested in homebrew nor online access

    Waiting for senran kagura estival versus english ver,valkyrie drive and omega labyrinth
    Interested in god eater resurrection but it can’t be played on 3.52 so I decided to let it go
    (It just old game remastered anyway)

    If game that I’m waiting to play it badly can’t be played on lower firmware I will decide to update
    Or get vita TV if that thing work with the game I wanted to play

  26. BenoitRen

    “Drawback 1: You will lose access to the PS Store (forever tied to a 3.xx FW)”

    In my opinion that is a problem. I for one would have liked to play Freedom Wars online. Also, it’s not just online play. Every feature tied to PSN is broken, like trophy updates and leaderboards.

    But the biggest issue by far is that we won’t be able to play games that require a firmware higher than 3.51. And they’re coming, as third-party developers are still giving the PS Vita some love.

    And honestly, using VGChartz to back up your numbers? Massive fail right there, as everyone knows they’re not reliable for any terroritory that isn’t Japan.

    “over 200,000 people did not mind having to be anchored to the Internet in some way to access their hack, even though Ironhax was available the entire time”

    No, it was not. IronFall: Invasion was pulled quickly after the hack was released, while Tubehax was available for quite a bit longer.

    The PSP was a failure despite its number of units sold, because sales of games didn’t follow. The rampant piracy that was possible from day one was a big contributing factor to its downfall.

    Right now, I say Nay to Rejuvenate because just like with the PSP, no matter how many times you use that word, it’s not about homebrew. It’s about emulators to play ‘free’ games.

  27. Someone

    I think the main problem with being stuck on a lower FW is that you can’t play newly-released games (both physical and digital) since currenly, there is no way to overcome the FW requirements for new games. But the bigger issue, I must say, is the the second and third points; while even ePSP exploits are portable, Rejuvenate requires an Internet connection to reactivate PSM and also either a USB connection or WiFi connection to an Android phone.

    I know that Yifan Lu did an awesome job at making Rejuvenate which must have taken lots of effort, but from what I see, most (not all) users prefer ePSP than Rejuvenate currently despite the fact that the latter is a native hack. Anyways, nice cover-up on Rejuvenate.

  28. Icce

    Until there won’t be any hack that lets play game backups, the answer will always be “Who the f*** cares”.

  29. RaZiel

    I don’t own a Vita but I do own three PSTV’s and a PS3. I bought the PSTV day one and wasn’t thrilled with it at all. Slowly there were a few games I liked but mainly was to replace my PSP Go when playing at home. Since then I got one for $20 when Sony was selling them on their website so I used one for PSN access and one for ePSP. Once I got a PS4 another PSTV was bundled with it. So I have one for ePSP, Rejuvenate and the custom whitelist. One is solely for PS4 Link when I can’t get to my PS4 and the other is for PSN access when I can’t access my PS3. But all in all while it can be a bit of a pain its nice to see progress none the less. No scene was great as soon as a hack came out. I recall when the PS3 was hacked I ripped apart my 360 to use my SPi Flasher for a dongle and began. Slowly despite all the hurdles the PS3 scene has grown to be simply amazing far surpassing the 360 in my eyes. I think overtime the Vita will as well. Devhook was a pain when it first came out now look at the PSP they were well on their way to achieving a total real custom firmware with uOFW and folks like Davee continue to breath life into the system. Give it time and the dedication of the devs will over come the hurdles. Sony has so much at their disposal to lock down the system but time will prevail at overcoming the obstacles.

  30. Augusto

    I really love the ideas behind homebrew and I’m always checking the site to make use of the hacks you have for us – when It’s not gonna give me a headeache dor trying. Rejuvenate is now useable, but not convenient. And the main drawback that made me upgrade one of my vita’s firmware was that I need to be on 3.55 to use remote play with the ps4. I know you are doing your work and this is great. I’m patiently waiting for the moment vita’s scene will really shine, I believe in you guys, but there’s more thing to do. Remote play is a good feature to have in mind.

  31. reckless0

    For me Remote Play is what is keeping me on the latest FW. Basically just simply… Remote Play > Rejuvenate (as dumb as that may seem to many here)

  32. cheina

    I have x3 vitas at 1.04 and one with 1.06 with kiosk. I only play old rom backups with them with family.

  33. VitaOwner

    Waiting for the final updates and homebrew updates before updating my vita in one shot.

  34. David

    My problem is as a developer there’s no reason for me to start developing. I don’t have a vita at 3.51 only one at 3.52. I have access to the email hack so if there becomes a way to execute code that was transfered through that or ftp, I have no reason to dedicate the time nor effort.

  35. ViRGE

    I’d also add one other thing to item 1 (PSN compatibility): along with losing the ability to play MP games, you also lose the ability to create/renew a PS Plus license. The PS3 workaround doesn’t work for this – the Vita needs to directly connect to PSN – so I’m coming up on a point where I have to pick between my PS Plus games and Rejuvenate. It is not an easy decision.

  36. shadowfire90

    Few online games?
    sorry, there are quit a few games that use online features and still have a good online population in them.

  37. Jayclay X

    Rejuvenate is indeed impressive, I have tried snes emu and it looks gorgeous with the resolution in vita screen, but the way it runs with bats on a mandatory pc connection (I don’t have an android phone) makes the process non practical at all, and in this way Yifan still don’t make substantial improvements updates to rejuvenate, I would love this platform if I can save my home-brew directly in my vita and launch it with dev app unity.

  38. Kislorod

    I think I’m done with this website, tbh. I can’t stand the ignorance in most of the posts here. You can’t tell me the Vita scene is just as good or better then the 3DS scene. Because it’s not… Even tubehax was a million times easier to use then Rejuvenate. You put some files on your SD card (once), enter a dns (once), and start the YouTube app. Not to mention the six offline hacks we STILL have and work. You can not compare that to rejuvenate. Don’t even try.

    • Kislorod

      Wow, somebody used same nickname as me 🙂 Just to be clear this guy is not the same Kislorod, who posted on november 7th (see above). I like this site ^_^