Just my 2 cents: The Digital Games Fallacy

34 Responses

  1. Noel_abercrombie says:

    Just going to point out you can still download games onto the PSP-Go, it’s just the storefront that has been taken down.
    Just buy the game on a PS3/PS4 or the playstation website and grab it from the download list.

    • arthanis says:

      Yeah, I know. But my point is that they are phasing out the support for the said device.

      • Aces says:

        Whats happens if you pay for a game and somewhere down the line it gets exploited.
        Sony has shown too often how easy pulling a game from sale is.
        You now own nothing, if you need to format your memstick or something you are frigged.
        Physical will always rule until rock solid laws are made that protect the consumer and are actually enacted on when someone like sony pulls a game that thousands have paid for.

  2. ace says:

    Disagree with the Netflix analogy. Studios are charging them more than they did before. Netflix got huge with the Stars deal years ago. They just now have the revenue to cover the added expense.

    • arthanis says:

      I don’t have the actual numbers, but what I stated is that the studios didn’t overcharge netflix to the point that is more expensive than renting some DVDs at the local video store.

  3. perfig says:

    Steam? What about the DRM?

    • Quade321 says:

      Steam has the DRM, but they don’t bash us over the head with it. For example, you can install a Steam game on as many PCs as you want. You just can’t play it at the same time, which is fair. Can’t play physical media more than once at a time. And even so, a lot of games that don’t force you to be online to play let you play it more than once. Just disable your network adapter and start Steam in offline mode. Can’t tell if you’re playing it on more than one computer at a time. It’s an obvious flaw, but Valve doesn’t care because patching it would mean f**king the customer by not letting them play offline ever. And if the game devs wanna screw the customer over by making you have to always be online, that’s their business and Valve lets them, but it’s their choice.

      Second, like the article says, the prices are through the floor. If you wait for a big sale, you can buy like 10 good games for $60 or less. Consoles’ online stores don’t do that. The DLC prices are still stupidly high, even for old games.

      Valve treats the customer well, and both parties benefit from it. Other companies really need to follow that model. Competing digital distribution markets on PC are, such as Origin. They give EA games away for free a lot, and they try to keep the prices down too. So, those are a few reasons why Valve and Steam have it more right than anyone else right now.

      • zero says:

        valve is pretty great except when it comes to customer support, which is a steaming pile of ***

      • mixedfish says:

        “Consoles’ online stores don’t do that.”

        Yes they do, in fact theirs a PS Vita sale on right now, some titles are only 3-4months old, but yet are over 50% off.

        I honestly don’t care about prices to a certain extent, what I do care about is if developers are getting a fair return for selling on the platform. Touting big sales that reduce prices of games to a few pennies is as good as pirating, you aren’t supporting the game and only further to cheapen or destroy the worth of the IP. Perhaps if it made you feel better throwing them few coins for ‘support, good, but the reality is that sales like that aren’t as helpful as you think.

        • Thrawn says:

          Actually I do care about prices A LOT.
          If a dey studio or a company produces a software product and at release day ZERO pushes out a sh*t load of DLC’s which retail at twice the full game price and add nothing but some fancy skins AND also are already included inside the game files only to be unlocked… AND the devs / company also says THEY NEED the extra DLC revenue or the software production would not be profitable…
          THEN THOSE DEVS AND COMPANIES SHOULD STOP MAKING SOFTWARE ASAP, fire all of their employees, lock down their business and go get some other job which is more PROFITABLE!!!
          My honest opinion about zero day DLC sh*t!

    • arthanis says:

      Well, steam may have DRM, but all of them do. In my experience, Steam DRM is far more lenient than others.

  4. I never really thought about it until I read this. And I thought PSN accounts were bad due to the digital copy region lock, I had no idea Nintendo players had to put up with that BS.

    • arthanis says:

      Glad I provoked some thought about it. That’s why I write these articles in the first place =]

  5. Reken says:

    Dose anybody know what vita firmwares come out of the box? I’ve tried searching everywhere!

    Im thinking of getting a slim PCH-2000 black but if it’s going to come with 3.6 or above then I don’t think I’ll go ahead.

  6. Sukunda says:

    As far as I know, it doesn’t cost anymore to patch games on PS3/360 and the first patch was free in the first place (at least for 360. They implemented it in order for Devs to thoroughly test their product, to make sure they didn’t release it in a half-*** state. It didn’t work out the greatest and many games HAD to update in order to for DLC to work correctly so that was scrapped. I can however agree that digital releases are overly expensive compared to their physical counterparts. Especially when it’s typically tied to a digital account that if it’s banned, all the games you’ve owned digitally will forfeit.

    • arthanis says:

      Last time I checked, this charge was still on. Do you have any source that indicates otherwise?

  7. Rolenzo says:

    As people seem to be totally aware, new physical copies of games like dragon age inquisition are cheaper than the prices offered by sony’s critic sale.

    So I just save my PSN cash for games that have no physical release and get physical copies of my games from pawn shops or the internet.

    Maybe someday it’ll change.

    • drd7of14 says:

      Actually, if you get the eBay credit now for $80 and get $100, once the Dragon Age sale happens in the next 2 months, on the 8 weeks of spring sale thing, you will probably get it for near $40 plus another $20 you’d save bringing it down to $20.

      They’ve also had sales in the past couple of weeks for Dragon Age bringing it down to $42 dollars I believe.

      There’s also no tax. Digital can be cheaper when you try.

      I also forget, but when you pay $100, I think to the end of this month, to be fair, it may be over now, you get $15 back.

      Physical retail stores never do that kind of sales. Again, you have to look.

  8. Dr.Duster says:

    Citing Kotaku? Come on

  9. barthen says:

    I made a small website to compare prices between PSN Stores. Hope it helps saving some money for Sony users:

    http://www.psncompare.com/

  10. CPUzX says:

    Website doesn’t work. Just write an article on this site. You will get more publicity that way.

  11. alpmaster says:

    Awesome read man one thing i have to say i love about digital is these companies have to worry about my purchases on servers no more oh i misplace my game. Also wait my kid broke my CD/DVD NO!!!!! Not to mention when you can duplicate the game due to login same account on multiple devices but of course SONY sucks since you can only register two GAME accounts for Vita. All though i figured out a way to bypass that similar to that cool trick you mentioned about being offline with STEAM thanks man i did not know that 😀

  12. alpmaster says:

    Where is my comment what is up with this moderation of my post?

  13. NoSpam says:

    “The only company that seems to be doing digital right is Valve, with Steam.”

    I’m not sure I agree. Steam have notorious issues, for instance:

    They can ban you (preventing you from accessing your paid library) and they don’t even have to disclose the reason… that’s a bigger middle finger than Sony’s game removal policy. There are stories of people being banned from Steam because they camped in an FPS and annoyed the wrong people and even lesser slights against the staff.

    They also have the audacity to forcefully scan and copy your entire DNS cache (Read:every website you’ve ever visited since it was last flushed). Disabled your cache? Steam won’t run.

    There’s also been a lot of forum controversy with Staff members ‘modifying’ conversations to push specific agendas (and protect Steams image).

  14. Ashton says:

    Digital games expensive ?
    /r/gamedeals

    But then again im talking from a pc gamer standpoint, i never got any digital games on consoles, too damn expensive. But then again the console producers have a monopoly on those, on pc there’s a bunch of stores selling steam keys and there are steam alternatives like gog.

    For me average price is the average price game had on sales, unless those sales were rare. But in most cases they aren’t, full price is always overkill in those and only morons buy digital games at that price. heck even steam deals are rarely good in comparison to prices at some other stores which also sell steam keys.

    • lmao says:

      >only morons buy digital games at that price
      I’d prefer you call me “rich” instead. And you’re ***

  15. Darts says:

    Great read and i think u describe it very well how many people feel about digital downloads .
    Forget about it not being cheaper then getting a physical game. Sometimes when the price of the game drops at the game stores , the online store still sells it at the same price it was at launch .

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