Native Vita Hacking: What’s the situation so far? (Part 1)

Acid_Snake

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132 Responses

  1. Wrozen

    Thanks for this post and a bit insight into what takes to hack the vita. looking forward to the nex t one

  2. Samsqwamch

    Any progress on a Native Vita Hack is good progress.
    Since I’m not a dev/coder, I appreciate all the hard work you guys are putting in.
    Thanx.

  3. omega_red2n

    good read

  4. Chris

    Thanks for the update! Always appreciate the hard work you guys put in to keep the scene alive 🙂

  5. dimy

    Can’t wait for the next part. Really cool and well explained insight into webkit exploits. Thx Acid

  6. BirthByRight

    i really wish to understand this things.. but im no coder/dev
    if there is a will, there is a way. too bad i dont have the resources XD
    i got a vita , a dual core PC just to play dota 2.. that’s it.. end of resources.. huhu

  7. 3rdroyd

    I’m happy for this to happen. This is the “first step” a hard choice to make but a i believe it is the right one. Now like the psp we had well know devs like DA and so anyone that was interested in psp hack/develop now that vita hacking is in baby steps, is a good time to learn about it. What better inspiration and examples like total_noob, DA, and if im correct just like wololo did and many others. Full support to this Acid_Snake

    • acid_crap

      wololo,DA ,cold bird and virtuos flame etc are the best devs
      acid_snake,djgodman and total_noob ruin the scene more than anything
      @acid_snake your decision was bad,come back with a native vita exploit or dont come back at all

      • Angel

        acid ***, you need to ***.

      • roswell108

        You do realize this statement would only be valid if the devs “ruining the scene” weren’t the new generation of devs that stepped in as the “best devs” stayed back with PSP or moved on to something completely different, right?

      • Nebu_187

        lmao it’s best that if u don’t know sh*t don’t talk sh*t

  8. alex

    Can’t wait. Starting my first year of school for C++ I’ll be able to help you guys in five years lol 😉

  9. Yifan Lu

    Good to see you guys finally putting effort into WebKit! Brace yourselves for 3.20 though…

  10. Calsolum

    So if i understand correctly
    the vitas web browser has a search engine called webkit
    the webkit is capable of using javascript and you intend to find a hole in it to indirectly access C++ classes in the vita
    through these C++ classes youre looking for a
    at this point im lost could anyone who understands dumb it down further

  11. Xgm

    ‘skfu’s vita browser 1.5’ is it means webkit?

  12. kevinalbis

    good luck!!!!!!! i know you will find the way…
    keep us in touch ok??

  13. Angel

    Interesting…
    Thanks for all the hard work!
    For now, I’m glad to at least be playing Super Metroid on my Vita.

  14. Stiffeno

    So its basically function hooking? Or function trampolining!

    This is the method I used to use to create hacks for games like Americas Army Ops and Enemy Territory like 10-12 years ago (but i dont code anymore!). Hook the hack onto a function that is routinely called by the game, and it in turns injects your code!

    We also did this to bypass PunkBuster anticheat software in said games!

  15. Kazuya101

    Interesting read.

  16. VitaGenic

    Conspiracy theory: Acid_Snake and quikrazor87 working undercover for Sony the whole time! He he he

  17. 777s3ns3i777

    Good post, and a good reason to deaden the previous scene. Many people won’t agree or understand but you are right, if it just keeps going the psp hack route then native vita hacks will be further and further away. Good luck to you guys figuring this stuff out and for all the hard work a huge thanks 🙂 if ever need any help with anything give me a shout, I’m happy to give a hand where I can.

  18. Henry

    The whole thing with leaving psp exploiting behind is bitter sweet but in the long run we will see a lot of new and exciting benefits. Vita security works quite well… .. It’s not perfect but it works. It is because of this that one day it will be exploited.

    really wish dark Alex was still around hacking away… I bet he would have had this figured out by now….. The whole cat and mouse game during the psp days was very interesting and exciting…. Those were the days

    • Stiffeno

      As for Sony’s Vita security, yes it may be good; but remember that anything that can be Made, can be Unmade!

      For the Vita to be locked, there must be a way to open it! Otherwise even Vita games wouldnt get in/access!

      Couldnt we just trick the Vita into thinking that Unsigned code is a legit game or something?

  19. solidsnake

    Of course. Why didnt I think of that. Fasinating Jim.

  20. lollypop

    so any native cma for 3.18 ?

  21. riddle43

    so if im reading this right couldnt we just load an emu with a signed .pkg like the pkg loader all we need is our ps vitas pass code put that in a coustom pkg and bam free games or at lest emulators right? but that code would be $ony property so it wouldn’t be shared here right? i have a feeling that my be a way to do this but i could be wrong.

  22. Welcome Back Snake

    Good to see the Vita has not been abandoned

  23. xXToYeDXx

    Not to put the cart before the horse here but this shows quite a bit more promise than I originally thought was possible. Not too many people in the scene have been talking about native Vita hacks (and I understand keeping things secret means Sony can’t patch them out) so I thought not much was being done. Thanks Acid. This information has me hopeful that homebrew and emulation on a more powerful device than the PSP could potentially be reality at some point. This is essentially the only reason I’m still hanging on to my Vita. Tell you what. You successfully get homebrew working on Vita natively and I won’t just buy you a beer, I’ll buy you a 24 case.

  24. Stiffeno

    When the day comes that the Vita is natively hacked and publicly released, I will personally donate some money to all those who made it possible! I wont say HOW much, as this will depend on how many devs are involved lol, im not rich! But will be very thankful!

    Just remember guys, for years ppl thought the PS3 was unhackable! But in the end it was ripped wide open!

    I just hope native Vita hacks wont need hardware mods! I wouldnt even consider it if hardware mod is the only way!

  25. garrettcorn

    Great article, looking forward to the next one! Loving the information, the better my programming skills get the more I understand. Haha I used to always read articles like this and scratch my head. Now everything makes sense, which makes it more interesting and fun to read.

  26. Quetz

    Best article in past three years 😀 exploit releases apart. This is a really interesting way of approaching to a device, waiting for second part 😉

  27. Klulu

    does not matter, Vita is dead

    • Stiffeno

      Not dead yet, Japan alone is keeping the thing alive….thankfully!

      Though I do hate JRPGs and hope we get some GOOD AAA titles in the future! Even ports of games like GTA would be good enough for me! ANYTHING! Sick of all these Asian based games, they suck lol

      • Stiffeno

        Ok not JUST the Japs keeping the Vita alive, there are still many of us in the rest of the world supporting the Vita =)

  28. tabegoro

    So what would a native hack bring us? What kind of homebrew are people thinking about? Vita wouldn’t be able to handle any crazy emulators, right?

    • Stiffeno

      A native hack would allow scene members/coders to create games, apps and emulators that can utilize the full power of the Vita’s hardware!

      Right now all we have managed to do is hack the PSP emulator built into the Vita, and being a PSP emulator hack, the homebrew made for it can only use PSP power (ie: 333mhz cpu speed and 32/64mb ram), which is very slow these days!

      Emulators using the Vita’s quad core cpu and quad core graphics chip would run MUCH better! Not having to be limited to 333mhz and crappy low ram! ROMS would run nice and smooth with much better framerates!

  29. num421337

    I always thought that with the pkg installer, if there was some way to create installable pkg files from demos or something that would be the major ticket in. but I’m not an expert so idk

    • Acid_Snake

      For that to happen you need some keys to encrypt the packages yourself, and only Sony has them. PKG installer will be useful when you can patch it to install unsigned (unencrypted) packages, and you need a kernel exploit for that.

  30. Stiffeno

    When can we expect to see part 2 of this article? very interested to hear some more about the native hacking progress!

    Actually this article has made me download Code::Blocks again, and after not programming for nearly 12 years, im gunna get back into it again =D. Though ill have to refresh my knowledge of C and C++ with some tutorials!

  31. AsDraS

    Very interesting post!
    I would really like to help you guys in searching of the adresses needed. Is there any way I can help you?
    I have some experience in C, C++ and a little bit of java. Also I am able to program microcontrollers which could be helpful if we need to do some hardware modifications. (I’m an electronics engineer)

  32. TheZ

    This is great news, can’t wait to steal and download free games.

  33. Leires

    I won’t hold my breath just yet, as i wholly expect it to take a while, but I’d be lying if i didn’t say I’m not excited and have a gleam in my eye about native vita hacks.

  34. Sakuryu

    I enjoyed my dead horse for a while but this is cool too. After all with a native exploit we can always do a hook call to the Emulator right? (Once the exploits calls and hooks are mapped.)

  35. TalYerushalmi

    I dont understand sony’s ambivalent attitude toward the PS Vita, I was a great admirer of the psp yet I always felt that it was lacking in comfort and features to become a ‘beside the bed’ grab to play for minutes and set on sleep mode at ease and convenience. I own a 3DS and I must say it surprises me that its less pronounced that it is much more lacking in its gamd library regardless of personal feeliing of the device its self vs the Vita. My vita is the first hand held I really fell in love with since my Gba sp (with flash cart XD) and it has become a platform that attracts Fantastic indie titles and arcade style games(giving its games that good old dreamcast vibe). the psp was pushed forward and givin a slew of triple A titles and originals even though it never really lived up to the great quality and feel the vita provided from day one. And now I keep reading dichotomous reports of the unprecedented and unpredicted landslide success of the ps4 the overall success of the ps3 from the latter years of its lifecycle and on the otherside they post massive Q2 and soon Q3 losses and cuts plus the claim that they will focus less on pushing the vita to its limits with top quality Vita designed titles like Teraway, Uncharted, Little-Big Planet and Killzone … What about God of war or twisted metal. or more original IP’s using the vita hardware creatively like Teraway. this disapoints me and puzzles me. I was always a pirate of games but since I became older and since ps plus and horrific banning practices I started buying games but I remember and still know a massive amount of people who will only buy a platform if its hacked and for online play they buy games but with no hack they will never be a customer so its a loss to sony. maybe a good hack could help the vita in the market so im “rooting” for the scene and the hackers. personally pirated games made me buy much more games than demos since nowadays sc*** over midsize game studios can spell their end I feel strongly about supporting good devs and artists….

    great artical and very well explained since as a seconds year development students I understood every word(not common when reading others articals about hacking or exploiting) I hope the tides will turn for the best hand held created to date it just needs a happier scene and more first and third party dev love.

  36. TalYerushalmi

    btw I feel sony will might pull a stupid sega/nintendo move and fiddle with a 1/2 genaration hardware itteration. I allways hated that move and it ended badly historicaly for the most part exept maybe for the DSi. the Vita is a Fantastic, durable comftrable and graphic pleasing console that can have a jawdropping catalog of games it just needs better marketing. I predicts though a new Playstation Xperia hybrid that mixes the two in greater synergy and emphasis on the Playstation part as the market is being gutterballed by the mobile phone indestry and the horid casual gamers nintendo and facebook originally spawned. and this hardware plus Gaikai research will attempt more and more to supply the ps4 via 4G and home wifi to you handheld. thats where I think we are hedding instaed of device tailors creative and wonderful games

    • roswell108

      There won’t be another Xperia hybrid. The last one may have done well with a cult following after it was long discontinued, but the fact that it was regarded as a very niche device is too much risk for Sony. The closest you will get is a slide out keyboard that has some pseudo game controls integrated into it.

  37. meysam25

    as i know some thing you say is imposible ( i make website )
    but what if its posible ! thats great

  38. Lennyvita

    The people here that help with the vita scene are not “Lazy”. they spend countless hours and days looking to improve the vita for users and *** bags alike.

    Also don’t say anything negative about the Z. He is one of the main people who helps with the vita scene here. The knowledge the Z offers and help to other people here is tremendous. Anyone who is visits here regularly knows that.

    Stop complaining on the people here who truly make this site great. Its no ones “job” to do this work. I don’t think anyone is being paid.

    People do this because of their interest in various ways of wanting to improve the vita experience.

    I don’t need to defend anyone here, because if a person that is great, is on their own merits and accomplishments. So enjoy your improved vita and say thanks!

  39. enix08

    what happens on SKFU’s PSV hacks?

    I thought he makes the native hack for retail vita