The upcoming VHBL exploit game release and PS Vita firmware 3.30
In our last news about the upcoming VHBL, we have told you that this release will be for the firmware 3.18 and that it should be pretty soon~ish.
Since Sony has announced the PS Vita firmware 3.30, which will offer supports for Homescreen Themes, the thought of delaying the VHBL release came up.
These are our thoughts about it:
Initially we wanted to release the upcoming VHBL and its exploit game for the firmware 3.18, since the Z.H.P. game has been a disappointment so far (for Europe/North America). It was initally thought of being a ‘potentional future TN-V loader’, nothing more. So being able to run something via (the japanese) Z.H.P. game, was a great achievement.
Now that Sony has announced their PS Vita firmware 3.30, and with the unpatched Z.H.P. exploit being available for 3.18, Sony has to release the firmware 3.30 pretty soon, at least we think so, which brings us to the point, that waiting until the firmware 3.30 release seems to be a good idea.
There is indeed the possibility of Sony fixing the upcoming exploit game in 3.30, like they’ve fixed multiple private exploits in the past, but releasing it right now would be a waste too, since it could’ve been working at 3.30.
It is recommended to not update to firmware 3.30, until we can confirm that the upcoming exploit game is still working.
We basically have 3 scenarios:
1.) We release the exploit right now, so you can use it at firmware 3.18, but it will definitely be patched in firmware 3.30.
2.) We wait until firmware 3.30 is available and check if the game is patched or not. If it is patched, the game gets released for firmware 3.18.
3.) We wait until firmware 3.30 is available and check if the game is patched or not. If it is not patched, the game gets released for firmware 3.30.
So one scenario will leave us with a 100% percentage of the game being patched in 3.30, and the other 2 will leave us with the possibilities of the game being patched or not.
In every 3 cases you will be able to buy, download and install the game, be it via a direct download (via firmware 3.30) or via the download queue trick or a PS3 (via firmware 3.18).
In every 3 cases it will work at firmware 3.18.
Our conclusion is therefore, that waiting until firmware 3.30 looks like a good idea, and as long as you do not update to firmware 3.30, until we can confirm or deny that the game is working at firmware 3.30, you should be safe.
The game will definitely be able to run the VHBL at firmware 3.18, but we hope that it will still work at firmware 3.30, which would be an even better thing for you and me, since that would enable us to use homebrews & themes at the most recent firmware (until they release a firmware 3.31).
The thing I’m most worried about is giving NISA money for the exploit.
Uhmm… screw you. This is a fantastic game, and the fact that it doubles as a VHBL game just makes it even better. If a Disgaea game is exploited, I would gladly buy it (especially Disgaea 2). What’s wrong with NISA?
I agree. NISA has amazing games.. Some are hit and miss, but the company is great over-all.
nippon ichi is fine, NISA are awful when it comes to censorship and localizations in the west.
um on firmware 3.15. Now can i download the exploit game and able to run VHBL?
I vote for waiting for 3.30, as soon as theme support was announced, I knew there was no point buying the upcoming exploit for 3.18, because there’s no way I’m missing themes 😉
Yeah there’s the chance it gets patched in 3.30, before the exploit is actually released, but imo it’s worth the gamble, especially if it’s the best compatible Vhbl release in a long while.
Don’t forget the possibility of a kexploit, third one’s the charm. So excited.
Hopefully, the third possibility occurs:
“We wait until firmware 3.30 is available and check if the game is patched or not. If it is not patched, the game gets released for firmware 3.30.” (above)
Don’t forget that kexploit is an independent from game exploit and it may or may not get fixed in 3.30 as well then.
There is at least one kexploit confirmed working on 3.18, but since 3.30 will likely shuffle the innards of the firmware more than usual, said kexploit might get randomly affected/broken if not found and patched on purpose.
So we may end up being forced to choose between VHBL+eCFW on 3.18 (and below) vs. new features and VHBL (with possibility to launch another kexploit, if found) on 3.30.
I agree with all you said except the second half of this statement,
“said kexploit might get randomly affected/broken if not found and patched on purpose.”
It can’t be “patched on purpose” if the name of the game is released after the 3.30 update, Sony wouldn’t have known the game, so what do you mean by “patched on purpose?”
Also, the kexploit might still work on 3.30 if we are lucky and it is still intact like the usermode exploit.
Sony has a track record of patching unreleased exploits, so they’re perfectly capable of finding and fixing vulnerabilities themselves; you can’t simply rule out the possibility of them patching the unreleased kexploit as well.
um on firmware 3.15. Now can i download the exploit game and able to run VHBL?
I don’t have a PS3 so I don’t know much about the PS3 method that you can use to copy either MyStylist or Space Invaderz (these are the games for 3.15 that are back on the Store), which are now available on the Store again. zload.net/bilder/PSVita/VitaExploitChart.png
But as far as the download queue trick is concerned, it has been patched permanently for 3.15 so you won’t be able to use it to download games onto your Vita. Hopefully, someone who has tried the PS3 method of transferring games can answer your question in more details or you can check on the /talk forums, a tutorial will be there, somewhere.
I found these two which might help:
http://wololo.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=22836
http://wololo.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=34351
Also, stop multi-posting!
It might be taken as spam by the spam-filter.
sorry bro, um stuck on 3.15! thats why asking badly.. sorry for that. Um totally noob. I have vita fat. Will you please answer that question i have asked? And sorry for my bad english.
I actually already answered but my comment is not showing up yet but here is what I provided in my comment that is not showing yet:
You can use your PS3 to transfer games you have bought via your PSN account, to your PS Vita since you can’t access the PS Store if you are not on the latest firmware:
http://wololo.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=22836
i dont have an ps3 🙁 is there another way?
The only other way that does not use a PS3 has been patched for 3.15. It is called the download queue trick. It lets you buy a game on the PC (desktop) version of the PS Store and add it to your download queue. And then once you restart your Vita the game starts downloading from (because you added it to the download queue on your computer).
This method only works for a few weeks on lower firmware, after an update is released. So when Sony releases 3.30, the download queue trick will work for 3.18 for about 1-2 weeks before it is patched on 3.18.
Here is a video, by The Z, explaining how to do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ion1pxiNZSQ
As I said it won’t work for 3.15 anymore because the 3.18 update has been available for more than 2 weeks now.
Third as in themes then, VHBL and then a kexploit that will enable the loading of ARK/TN-V.
This seems like a good decision; this way, we will be able to have 3.30 as a “golden firmware” immediately at its release, with both theming and VHBL support rather than having to choose between the two. If this particular exploit is as good as rumor has it to be, it will be all the better, particularly if a kxploit is discovered in the near future.
There’s no rumor. If you watch Z’s video of the exploit you’ll see it works to perfection for a VHBL!!!
I thought the download queue trick had been patched.
The Z’s first comment:
http://wololo.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=39266&start=130
As far as i know, it just stops working a few weeks after the firmware update.
Okay, thanks!
It would be much appreciated if The Z confirmed this, I am not discrediting what you said Ernie but being that The Z said it had been patched, it would be nice to know the context in which he was basing his statement (permanently patched or just a few weeks after the update). Thanks again, Ernie.
Agreed! If we wait and end up not being able to download the game because the queue is patched and we don’t own a PS3, well, I feel VHBL on bland 3.18 is better than no VHBL on themed 3.30.
I guess you can take his statement about the download queue here as a hint.
But i understand that you want to make sure 🙂
It usually works for 1-2 weeks, then you need the newest firmware.
If they release another newest firmware, the previously newest one will be able to use the queue trick again.
So queueing with 3.18 should be possible, when 3.30 is still fresh.
Thanks 8)
are we forgetting that PlayStation vita tv is coming out on 14 oct in the us, maybe best wait till then right.
I wholly agree with you my kind sir ^_^
I say wait
That is also what the moderators are saying. Did you read the article?
Lol, just kidding but you say it as if to oppose whatever the mods said, which they didn’t 😉
i say make an exploit to play vita games thats what i say
Y.A.i.L.
Yet Another Ignorant Looser
*cough* it’s spelt loser *cough* but I do agree with you 🙂
At least you were honest with your name, grammar[fill in the gap] 😉
lol pro reddit troll
Why don’t you look for one instead of complaining, huh? Make yourself useful.
I don’t want to, but i will wait. Curse you theme supported firmware that should have been in the Vita Day 1!!
Curse it but still want it? lol 😉
I really don’t care about theme support really, it’s a nice concept but not a need of mine. Home brew on the other hand 🙂
To every man his needs, but we are a community, we have to do what is in everyone’s interest 😉
Personally, I have my Vita for it’s functionality which is mostly playing games and very rarely for admiring how nice the menu is… But I do agree that waiting, in the long run, would be beneficial to the most people. Sticking to 3.18 after the release is a nice fail-safe, unless of course they removed the game altogether. Thanks guys, and great work!!!
Sounds like another exploit *** of recent news.
“Something is around the corner, we have something great NOW but since there is something around the corner…yeah…no.”
So discouraging anymore, I miss the good old days of hacks/homebrews/cracks. But I guess its a different internet where people have to act high and mighty.
Dont take this post wrong. I appreciate each and every dev that has helped any and all scenes progress. But I HATE this kind of dramatic stuff. And I do understand the logic here, its better to wait in terms of not having another exploit.
“I hate the devs but I don’t hate them.” ^^^
What is with the drama that you yourself said you don’t like? Just wait, patience is a virtue…and don’t complain. It will make others complain like I am doing now. Do you want others to complain?
Do it yourself RIGHT NOW, or shut up.
Why waste this for a crappy 3.18, if a new firmware WITH features is like 2-3 weeks away?
I understand the reasoning behind waiting for the next firmware to test the exploit. There is also a possibility that once Sony releases 3.30 the game won’t be patched but may not run as well on that frimware. This also brings into question if it is patched will Sony pull the game or bug you to update.
P.S.- First exploit that I have a chance at gets postponed, not exactly happy but no use in having a fit. As long as I get to see that VHBL notification and get the exploit before Sony counters this than I’m happy.
Sony usually always does the former (remove the game from the Store) and sometimes both but being that 3.30 would have been recently released, I doubt Sony would release an update soon after just to patch the exploit, they would most likely just pull the game or mark it as “not downloadable.” But who knows until then? 😉
They never patch the game, that would be too much work.
They patch exploits via firmware updates.
I say wait!
Who isn’t?
Is this game currently in the PS store? cause I cant find it
Which game is that?
My bad; it was mentioned in the previous article that MyStylist and SpaceInvaderz had returned to their respective PS Stores but that ZHP hadn’t.
http://wololo.net/2014/09/04/ps-vita-firmware-3-15-exploit-games-have-returned-to-the-psn-store/
I say release it now screw 3.30 im not excited about themes as much playing Pokemon Emerald 😀 without the gba save state crashing when exiting the emu. Both VHBL on 3.15 suck for compatibility.
I’m sure Sony will make 3.31 right after 3.30 to block the exploit and then call it a stability release to work out bugs with 3.30 so it does not matter I miss tnv but I have to stay upto date for ps4 remote play
Same, I do miss TN-V. My Vita auto-updated upon restarting and my 3.01 Persona 2 kexploit was gone. I have high hopes for the game to be announced.
Wait how did you manage to get your vita to auto update, don’t you have to accept each and every update manually before it installs?
Possibly my ignorance back then regarding exploits. But the update downloaded and then I must have confirmed it. But if autoupdate was off, the new firmware would have never been downloaded to my Vita and I would never have updated that day, at least, and I would have possibly learnt about the patching of exploits by Sony’s firmware updates, that’s the context in which I am speaking.
If the exploit game is an RPG I don’t have, that would be exciting. I just picked up a Vader PSP for the homebrew, so this is just to say I have another hacked system. Take your time. Keep up with the good ideas, Smealum style.
I’d say wait until 3.30, UNLESS you find another exploit before then.
Even then, I say wait. If we do find another exploit, we should keep it that. If the 3rd scenario does occur and the exploit works, Sony might release an update to patch the 3.30 exploit. Who knows the second (hypothetical) exploit might work on the update Sony releases to patch the already-existing exploit? That way, we get access to the PS Store (being on the latest firmware) and VHBL/kernel access on the hypothetical new exploit 😉
i vote wait for 3.30 since it’d be a waster for it to be patched within 7 days as i imagine 3.30 comes out tues.
Yeah, waiting seems to be the right option. But it would be purposeful if we can atleast have the psn regions in which the game is available. Example , if the game is not available in my region then no matter what, I won’t be able to get the game unless its supported on 3.30.
Please just announce the regions so that we can have the vita on the necessary psn accounts.
Thanks
I would also really like to know what regions it’s in.
But what happens if Sony make v3.30 mandatory and the expoit doesnt work on 3.30? those of us on 3.18 wont be able to log into the PSN store to get the exploitable game! I suggest release now.
It is still possible to get games that you have bought using the download queue trick, if you are not on the latest firmware version. But this only works on firmware 3.01 and higher. In this video, The Z demonstrates it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ion1pxiNZSQ
Although later on, according to The Z, this method has been patched:
http://wololo.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=39266&start=130
But ErnieBall said, above, that this method works up until a few weeks after the most recent update has been released; it is never, at a given time, permanently patched. That is to say, if Sony releases an update, we will be able to use the download queue trick to get games from the Store (indirectly) while on a lower firmware but after some weeks the only way to get games or access the Store, at all, will be to update to the most recent firmware.
Also, Sony can’t make an update mandatory. You have to agree to install any downloaded updates; as a user, you have your rights.
Ohh i get ya, thats good too know. I didnt know there was a download queing feature on the PlayStation site! Guess i may just be able to get an exploit going on my new vita hehe.
I actually got a Vita on the Australian launch day back in early 2012 and had the Urbanix kernel exploit running which was awesome, but i sold my Vita on eBay 6 months later due to no good games i liked on the system.
In retrospect i wish i had kept it. It even had the exploitable versions of Mad Blocker Alpha AND Uno.
The guy who bought my launch vita was into homebrew so at least it was going to a good home, and not to some parent who would update firmware the day they got it…killing the exploits lol >.<!
The Z confirmed it above, the download queue trick works 2-3 weeks into the release of the new firmware version. After that, you will need to be on the latest firmware to get games from the Store or use the download queue trick, I guess.
FOR ALL WHO ARE ASKING ABOUT THE DOWNLOAD QUEUE TRICK
The trick only works on the immediate lower firmware.
For instance, it will work for a few weeks on 3.18 after 3.30 has been released. But once 3.30 is released, the trick will never work on 3.15 again because it will no longer be the immediate lower firmware, 3.18 will be the immediate lower firmware to 3.30.
Waiting is good but the disadvantages also comes especially to those people who doesnt have a ps3. download queue doesnt work anymore as far as i know. well whatever the devs decision, im all good. 🙂
Read the immediate above conversation.
The Z confirmed it above, the download queue trick works 2-3 weeks into the release of the new firmware version. After that, you will need to be on the latest firmware to get games from the Store or use the download queue trick, I guess.
it would be great if you could wait for 3.30 to release VHBL.
also a kexploit after the release of playstation TV would be unbeliavable, as they will be probably shipped with a firmware much above 3.01. i guess it will be 3.30 or maybe more since we still have about 1.5 months for release.
I’d love it to be released this weekend, but I understand that some would really like theme support along with it. My biggest worry is that we won’t see 3.30 for quite some time and people get impatient, etc.
Maybe Wololo should create a poll and let everyone vote to either wait for v3.30 with Theme Support, or release now on v3.18!
Remember there is always the chance it will be patched in v3.30! Or just as bad Sony may make v3.30 mandatory, thus locking us 3.18 users out of the PS Store and thus stopping us from getting the required game.
I know people could download to PS3…if that still works, but not everyone has a ps3…i know i dont. Vita is my only console.
Your argument makes no sense. There’s a way to download to the Vita without a PS3 and without being on the absolute latest firmware as long as you’re on a recent one. Look in the forums. It has to do with using the web store and setting it to download from there and when you turn your Vita on it will download
Oh i see, thanks for the info i honestly didnt even know you could do that. Guess that makes me feel a little more at ease lol. I shall try and find the post where it shows you how to do it…unless you know?
Thanks again!
wololo.net/ article:
http://wololo.net/2014/08/12/new-exploit-game-for-firmware-3-15-tutorial-for-downloading-it-included/
Somewhat related /Talk Forum thread:
http://wololo.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=39266
Corresponding YouTube video:
Thanks mate, just read and replied to your last message lol
Well technically no, you would still have the proxy and the ps3 tricks
3º (Third)
Queue is fixed for 3.15.
When 3.30 is available, queue will work with 3.18 (for some days).
They never “permanently” patch it.
aah ok so ill just keep an eye out for the news after release.. i thought for some reason the queue was permanently patched and without a ps3 i was sc*** 😮
I found the system to enter the psvita and execute code in kernel mode, the technique is to install the firmware of life on the SD card, as it says tutorial yfanlu then simulate a disk error of SD so that crashiare the software, you inject native code. In a few days we will show an example
Thank you!
even if the memory is encrypted must simulate a sd damaged in order to break the flow of encrypted data and send arbitrary code
dev’s do what you want its your hard work and it’s much appreciated,
I’ll just have to be patient, luckilly i have my own litttle project on xbmc with advanced launcher by angelscry for my emulators wich u would like to look up it’s totaly free (if you like emulators and would like to see them nicely presented on your pc). I can control everything with my DS3 :p closing game and reopening xbmc with PS button NICE :p
“Sony has to release the firmware 3.30 pretty soon, at least we think so”
They said “Autumn 2014”.
Autumn goes from 23 September to 21 December.
So this will be more likely October/November. More than a “few weeks” or “pretty soon”.
But fine, this is your decision, I respect it, I will wait 1 or 2 months more. 🙂
They said that 3.30 is coming this October actually, so we’re looking at 1-2 months here.
https://twitter.com/PlayStation_jp/status/506324837027950592
The devs will probably wait a little to make sure that 3.31 isn’t coming as follow-up (hotfixes happened before, FW 3.12 being the most recent example), but hopefully it won’t be too long or 3.18 users risk being cut off from PSN.
Ok so my question is should I update to 3.30 from my fully functional 2.02 uno exploit or just keep the safety net that I currently have. I like the idea of themes but honestly, I have 2 and this one solely boots into tnv 10. So what would be the benefits of loosing my kexploit for the possibility down the road?
Well, if the mods confirm that the exploit works on 3.30, then obviously update. If not, just stay on 2.02 with your exploit or use a proxy method to update to a specific firmware. Either way, as long as you are not on the latest firmware, you won’t have access to the PS Store but at least you will have an exploit.
The specific firmware you update to, if you decide to do so, should be one with a known exploit so you won’t totally be void of an exploit. Check the chart out:
http://www.zload.net/bilder/PSVita/VitaExploitChart.png
But once again, this is only if the mods confirm that the exploit does not work on 3.30 and you don’t want to stay on 2.02 (for some reason unknown to me, since you have a working UNO exploit). Sorry for the high level of cynicism in my response; it speaks louder than a normal tone.
Tutorial for updating to a specific firmware:
http://wololo.net/2013/04/17/lower-ps-vita-firmwares-for-dummies/
DISCLAIMER: No one, including me, is responsible if you accidentally update to the latest firmware and lose all chances of an exploit, do this at your own risk.
Lol, thank you for your input. Being on 2.02 and having purchased some of the other games, I can currently boot into 3 different exploits which is kind of a if it ain’t broke situation… I will see how everything pans out. UT am leaning on not updating in general. I currently have 2 vita so I will still get to enjoy the themes
And sorry for the late reply, I have been in the hospital with my daughter for the last 2 weeks and finally made it home.
Oh I choose to wait until the the fw 3.30 comes. It would be great if the exploit gets to 3.30 think about it. I hope sony can’t catch it to patch
while waiting I will finish FFX until the release comes 😀
Personally I think it makes perfect sense to wait now that we know 3.30 is going to be releasing shortly. I have been looking forward to the latest exploit after hearing that testing went so well (TN-V on my PSP at some point would be sweet) but waiting is the sensible thing to do (if it’s 3.30, 3.31, 3.32 it’s cool that they are releasing it for us all) and I don’t thing they should be criticised, that’s unfair IMO. I’ll keep checking the site for the info. looking forward to this release and hope all goes well (nothing gets broken).
um on firmware 3.15. Now can i download the exploit game and able to run VHBL?
I went and bought a PS Vita 2000. Now, my PS Vita 1000 is the CFW version. It is a permanent solution. Would be great though if the PS Vita 2000 could be rooted once and for all.
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I think your team should give out a video to tell us how to install your VHBL…
I am new in this and there‘s no video to tell me how to use it but only how to update ….
Since tthe admin of this web site is working, no doubt very soon it will be well-known, due to its feature contents.
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