Do you need a new exploit release?
Even though it’s only been targeting the PSP emulator so far, the Vita scene has been pretty lively over the past 2 years. With about 20 exploits released over the past 24 months, including 2 major “eCFW” releases (one around Christmas 2012, the other one in December last year), believe it or not, the Vita scene is actually releasing more exploits than the PSP scene used to, which is unfortunately the result of these exploits being such short-lived…
To counter the hack, Sony typically remove the exploited games within 48h of our announcements. To mitigate that, we announce the exploits secretly to our community through a process we call “ninja releases“.
For the people on 3.10 or 3.12 who are not lucky enough to have access to the latest VHBL exploit (JP only, up to firmware 3.12!), the question most people want to be answered now is if and when the next exploit will be released.
I have enough data now to estimate that more than 10% of the PSP games have an exploitable vulnerability in the form of a buffer overflow or similar simple flaws. So user mode exploits are not the problem here, but kernel exploits are much more rare.
Porting usermode exploits to VHBL is not extremely difficult, but the results vary depending on the exploited game. And VHBL is limited in the homebrews it supports because it is usermode. That being said, VHBL generally supports the most popular homebrews and emulators.
Image thanks to whitehawk on neogaf
The question for the community here is, should we try to have more VHBL releases in the months to come? Is it worth it? Should we wait?
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I need a way to make a backup of my account cuz $ony banned my Ps3 and account… Se need a real hack… This is only a kidding (PSP backup games on vita). I van run it on my Android mobile….
Just my tropphies…
Backup? There’s now ay to transfer data from one account to another, and there’s no way to unban an account for that matter. Same thing happened to me, I lost purchases, the whole 9 yards. Suck it up and make a new PSN account.
You can recover you’re trophies with rebug fw’s but again there’s a ban risk, should be all right if you don’t do anything stupid like unlocking the platinum trophy without all the others. There’s absolutely no way to recover vita trophies though.
I have never been able to buy an exploited game in time, so I would give a try if there’s a new release in a near future 🙂
God, if you missed all the previous releases, that where highly anticipated what makes you think you will get the next release? I mean people talked about TN-V4 for an entire year. (faceplam)
Some people havent had the vita for a year smart guy some of us just got it when they started to release actual good games like borderlands and ff10
Well obiously theirs no 3.12 hack yet smart guy
(facepalm) i only got my vita for two months and a half so stop being cocky
I do want to play FF Type-0 when it is patched, and some other psp-titles unavailable for Europe… But other than that, emulation is the primary thing I need exploits for. So yeah, VHBL is needed.
VHBL won’t run Type-0, and it won’t run Daedalus either.
YES
I think that you’re better off waiting a little longer.
Why?
There is supposed to be a big(ish) PS4 patch in the near future, and that usually leads to vita being patched very shortly after, best not to waste an exploit in that way (which has the possibility of eventually turned into a kernel exploit if we’re lucky)
I’m in the nice position of having a vita for cfw and one for psn again which is nice. I understand that’s probably a waste of money for most people (I still have my psp’s too but I like stick over nub and plural over singular…pretty screen is icing,) so yes please release more exploits gradually for people who like a bit of wagic and some emulation. maybe drop one every 2-3 months?
I dont understand why you all are still searching for a vhbl or epsp bug to find a useless PSP bug concentrate you money and effort for a cfw for the vita not for the epsp
Like the 1000dollar for the egg hunt put the money for a bounty for the vita hack and there will be a lot of more hackers not just this script kiddy’s like the z or else
Sry but katzu and jifan are the only hackers right now the rest is useless ***
then go find one. Seriously, the Native Vita scene hasn’t really gone anywhere. Katsu just made a mod (wonderful, but unrelated to the Vita Hacking Scene) and Yifan dumped his NAND (could be useful, but again, going nowhere).
Heck, why are you complaining? Not your site, nor exploits. If you wanna give $1000 to Yifan and Katsu, donate it. But this is for the people right now, and people are donating enough to katsu and yifan anyway.
Hacks don’t grow on money. Only reason they come about is because everyone has the console, not one guy having 500. That’s why DAX was just some random Spanish dude and Geohot a no name man.
I wish it was like old times where devs did stuff because they wanted to stick kit up to the big guy. Now its like a lot of talented devs/modders micro managing their finds/exploits based on their derived sense of morality. Things like whether a platform will survive piracy if a exploit is published is very new age thinking. Old school would have just published the hack and let the users worry about morality. This is true freedom. So in short Geohot had more *** than any of the new kids. so let it lie…
And he got sued. Back in the day, companies didn’t try to bankrupt or jail hackers by dragging them though a broken judicial system.
You also seem to miss a small yet big point: where’s the need for homebrews? With everyone having a smartphone or tablet with much better homebrew capabilities and freedom, the only thing that a console hack (specially portable) could provide that users don’t already have is piracy. Just look at the PS3 scene, how many homebrews are there? barely none, how many emulators? as much as the FREAKING PS2! How many backup managers does it have? a shitton.
Yeah, I have a smart phone that has more utility that my old psp now. It isn’t even the latest and greatest phone, but the utility of the LEGAL and FREE applications made for it is pretty awesome.
Now, my psp is used to play my old cartridge games that have bad save batteries and PS1 games that I admittedly never got the chance to buy(too young, no $$ when I was a lad).
Imo, keep hacking the VITA for full access to it’s hardware to get an even better SNES emulator for it. The PSP SNES ones are cool, but have slowdown/lag for many of it’s games. I would be so down to play the SNES version of Chrono Trigger on the go with no/significantly less lag and delay. Additionally, maybe even better oldschool emulators, like the Dreamcast.
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I also wanted to mention to all of the Devs and people who helped discover, test, and release exploits and everyone who coded a solid oldschool emulator for the PSP/ECFW…
Thank you very much for your hard work. I hope to be as good of a coder as you dudes someday. You seriously made me enjoy the PSP so much more than I would have. Thank you very much guys, seriously, keep up the good work if you still have the desire to tinker with the Vita.
You can get good emulators for your smartphone, and gamepads for them are relatively cheap as well
exactly the derived sense of morality.
Geohot? that loud mouth show off? Sorry but graf_chokolo is the guy you are looking for
He is the DaX of the PS3 and then some
Whatever you guys think, the man’s still a very smart person.
Just this year at Pwn2Own George Hotz (Geo Hot) independently exploited a backdoor in Mozilla Firefox and won $50,000
And in 2013 he ESCAPED THE SANDBOX of adobe reader (humongous vulnerability) and netted himself $70,000
Of course these are well documented things.. not the Vita.
I’m just Saiyan…
I think it should wait considering the new games on the way but I am sure it won’t. People had many opportunities to get an exploit by now and to use up a finite resource of exploitable games is not good for the future.
Hmmm i have no idea
But i think it would be fun to release new exploit instantly after firmware patched the previous release exploit
Then when exploit is patched again release another one and just keep it go on and on
………..Just to troll regular people with no interest in VHBL,TN-V,hax
So they rage at sony (WHAT WITH “improve system stability,”)
Well i don’t know what the heck could we gain from that
But it would be pretty fun…..”generic evil laugh”
I think we should stop exploiting psp emulater and start hacking ps vita for homebrew cuz ps vita has a lot of potential than psp.so making psvhbl would be better than vhbl and it has been 2 years since the vita has been released but most of the scene members are still trying to exploit psp emulator and it is slowing the hacking progress of vita.So it would be better if devs stop hacking psp emulater and start hacking ps vita to make a usermode exploit.
In my opinion you should go psp scene now long dead and the focus should be to get a usermode exploit so as to take advantage of all the features of life
DarkAlex where are you? only you can save us ..
As long as I can run some homebrews and emulators I’m happy. I buy my psp/psone games from the psn store so I don’t really see what I would benefit from eCFW.
I do not think it it worth more VHBL releases. If people don’t have the exploit by now they didn’t want it. We should work on native hacks that Sony can not stop.
“We should work on native hacks that Sony can not stop.” Are you serious? Sony created the vita, and if a native exploit comes out, they can and will stop it.
Some people might see the benefit, but I’ve done the exploit 3 times and now see no reason for it anymore.
If anyone has followed the exploit trail this long, I think investing in a cheap PSP or buying a BT controller for an android phone is a much better solution. No more jumping through the hoops.
Personnaly, I don’t need anymore VHBL or Userexploit. There is an awesome PSP emulator for PC where I can play many games and homebrews named PPSSPP that runs very smooth on my laptop in HD. I hook up a PS2 controller in USB adapter and play my games I used to play on a kernel epxloit. I also have old craked PSP 1000 in super good working conditions but I don’t like the controls.
I wont take a exploit anymore until it’s a native epxloit.
not surprised, many people only think about emulation and run pirated copy when talking about console hacking. sigh… sigh… sigh..
hmm, judging from all of the comments, it sounds like people is getting tired of VHBL/eCFW but IMO releasing those exploits in the future doesn’t do any harm, those who are still actknowledging them can gain benefitd as well as Sony itself.
Iv had the last 4 exploits but I allways update when new fw comes so yes I would like another exploit…..keep up the good ork guys love the site…..
we need only psvita hacks play vita game it long time more exploit game release…now hacks give us vita hacks…
Honestly, the scene should wait before another exploit… Honestly, I STRONGLY believe (because of a few things I witnessed) That there is already a native Vita exploit, however I must emphasis BELIEVE so there won’t be any *** about proof, because frankly I didn’t find any native exploits, so even if I did have proof, it is not mine to show, nor tell… Regardless, the scene should wait because at the rate it’s going, there won’t be anymore possible exploits unless some people find a way to exploit games NOT associated with a simple (kinda) buffer overflow… Give it some time before releasing again… Honestly, if there are a more releases, or if there are none, we cannot control it… The only way to possibly control it is to make our own exploits… From what I see, some people just are ungrateful as *** and legitimately only care about what they want, and *** talk about everything else… Less complaining and more supporting…
A BIG YES…
vhbl is pretty cool , but i understand eveyone that would love to see a vita exploit
Exploit for 3.12 in europe would be great.
I have Qruton w/ TN-V on 3.01, but would like a new one for 3.12 or else another way to access PSN since Update Blocker has been patched. Would be nice if we could patch their patches. 😀
so it means, you have already got your hands on a working 3.12 VHBL for a game other than that jap exclusive.
i would say just release it, if the possibility of a kernel exploit for above 3.10 is low. if not, just wait.
Would love to play patched type-0 on my vita and other psp games… so I just wait for the next eCFW
WAIT UNTIL THERE IS A BIG UPDATE even if that takes months
Kernel mode exploits should be held back until after or just around the holidays, makes it easier for them to get into the hands of new users.
As much as I would like to see the VITA get it’s very own CFW, I think that’s a good few years if any in the making just because of improved stability/ security. I like playing VC3, FF-0, etc on my VITA but I miss playing dragon’s crown on multiplayer and I like the fact that I just need to bring my VITA when I go travel instead of my vita and a PSP or 2.
I say either keep releasing the usermode exploits, or find a way for us with lower FW to access PSN/ play multiplayer/ upload to cloud…
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
It’s not worth it, so wait with your releas(es), please. It’s not a bad thing to be patient, isn’t it?
Yes, I still want one on 3.12 a lot 🙂 . I still get the thrill from playing psp games on my gorgeous OLED screen. And homebrews on TN-V make impossible things happen, like pdf reader on vita. Oh right, i can use touch screen to play emu & psp game too. There’s no reason for us not to love TN-V via ninja exploit, i think.
Wololo guys yous should w8 a little bit, sony is tying to counter attack this community, you should make future exploits in tactical time, like when vita is not getting any game, or when you have like 3-4 exploits and when someone finds a way to have a acc to psn. So am for it, i like that u guys are putting such a big effort in this and ty in my name
May I suggest for those who want a costest dreamcast emulator on psvita, maybe you could make donations so that the funds should be invested in research, it would be a good idea
If you want to pay me, I’ll do it. haha.
Yfalu it seems to me that you have too much fear, and why I do not write anything, someone must sacrifice!
Yfalu you’re just a coward!
You’ve taken dirty money from sony to shut up, you have sold yourself!
When the title sony goes down magically someone working here there is’ something behind group !
I’m very jealous of this yfalu who got dirty money from sony. I want dirty money from sony 🙁
as simple a that-no
I don’t see why sony just doesn’t enable homebrews themselves…
I know they could make it so you couldn’t run backups even if they did enable homebrew support…
It would mean a lot less work for them and make the community happy as well.
You do have to admit Nintendo has virtual console it is still really limited for selection of games. Just like $ONY lame collection of PS1 Games.
Sony does enable homebrew… Just not PSP homebrew.
PSM is not native but its very useful for hobbyist. 🙂
i don’t understand why hacking vita to the core would solve anything except running pirated copy games.
That’s the point of hacking the vita.
they basically allow homebrew with PSM and Unity-for-PSM, you can buy developer license for free.
Unity truly looks promising.
please i need exploit for 3.12
i want to play my favorites classic games i want more freedom on my vita
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
Find one yourself.
Honestly, we should be waiting regardless at -least- two months per VHBL, and at -least- six months, possibly more, for any ksploits. (Sony patching them stealthily aside, then obviously release them while they’re useful) The reason for this is because while, sure, there’s likely still -hordes- of VHBL ‘sploits and maybe still a handful of ksploits left, that number doesn’t grow very quickly, to what i understand. Especially with sony starting to go out of their way to fix things (i.e. the exploits that weren’t released or known about got inadvertently patched).
I know everryyybooody wants a ksploit, but if we drink our water supply too quickly, it’s going to run out. It’s going to be a -very- long time before vita is hacked to the point where it doesn’t need ksploits, if it even happens. We gotta make them last, even if people disagree or whine that there’s no ‘sploits.
Obviously there’s no way to schedule such a thing, nor would you want to, as that would make it easier for people to just watch at certain times of the year for exploits, verses growing as a community while also enjoying the added bonus of possible ninja releases, but i really do think that patience is more important than quantity.
just wait it out wololo, may be worth it to release them later. 😉