Sony Can Access Your Device Even When You Aren’t Signed In To PSN. Is It Legal?

The Jay Doctor

I'm a guy who is really interested in hacking of all consoles, especially the PlayStation Vita. I am a blogger here on wololo.net

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99 Responses

  1. NakedFaerie says:

    You got it wrong.
    Its NOT your PSN account thats doing anything its your console itself.
    As you said its online overnight the console knows what version of each of your apps are. periodically it looks online to see if the same verison is there too, if there is an update then it updates.

    The PS3 has an option to turn on, check for updates and download updates then turn off again. The Vita also does but its for PS+ users but it still checks for Live Screen updates I think when its charging and asleep. Like standby mode, on charge after 30 mins of that or something similar.

    So it doesn’t matter if your signed on or not, your console checks itself if its online then checks the version numbers to see if anything is updated.
    BUT I think only PS+ users will get the full potential of this as it can check for game updates and update them automatically. All a normal user gets is the live screen updates. You have to check game updates manually.

    • gta_master says:

      Sir, you have truly read my thoughts exactly. That is why I think this article was a complete waste. Just turn off the automatic check for updates to the applications. When the “LiveArea Screen” is refreshed, it doesn’t sign in to your PSN account , it just “access’s” your ps vita, if you will, and checks what applications need updating.

  2. dalton says:

    Yeah this happens with my ps3 and trophies!

    It posted on my facebook that I got a trophie on Lightning Returns when I was work!
    My girlfriend freaked out lol I had to send her snap chats to convince her i was actually at work.

    But isn’t auto update as part of PS+ have them accessing your device when you’re signed out? When you’re PS3 is in stand by, you’re signed out, right?

  3. ivo says:

    automatic system user logon + automatic update = ps plus update service

  4. Ninjakakashi says:

    I’m sorry but this for me is a dumb article, because you didn’t research anything and 2nd reason if you have some dirt that is worth finding for security reasons then I don’t give a f*ck!!!

  5. GottZ says:

    doesn’t this belong into something like a forum? srsly.. try to use wireshark to see what is happening. you will notice that your psvita will request data over time no matter if you are signed in or not.

  6. You says:

    Internet only into your laptop at home via cable. I read some place the company sends a type of verification checker pulses whenever to make sure your setup is ok. God help if your add-on splitter is sending back unusual signals. TV also…? theft of services? Electo funk age.

  7. jake says:

    @Jay Doctor blur your image out a bit more with your ID name…

  8. Voltromik says:

    This post is dumb,, its the OS refreshing. They aren’t seeking thru your system? Cmon now,, its not worth it/.

  9. X says:

    Go get something with a real webcam PSN and twitch has to watch you in low rez at the moment.

  10. Patrick-The-Muthurfuckur-Star says:

    Time on screenshot is 3:33pm! Half-Life 3 confirmed!

  11. Pooptart says:

    jam_hark.

  12. Anon says:

    You’re still over thinking it.

    That particular screen update doesn’t mean you have app updates, or any alterations, it means that Sony has released new games to the store.

    You’re wiggling out because sony has put up a billboard on their store which your console is viewing.

    Sorry, but the sad truth, big brother isn’t watching you, big brother doesn’t even know, or care, who you are.

  13. me says:

    It isn’t that Sony have accessed your device in anyway, its the device phoning home looking for any updated information, and pulling it locally. You only have to have the device connected to the internet for this to happen as its only an xml sheet that’s being checked on a remote server which anyone with the right information could access and then any changes are being saved by your device.

    The PS3 exhibits this exact same behaviour with its XMB icons, you don’t have to be signed in for these changes to be made, as its the device itself that initiates the connection.

    Btw, you can stop this behaviour from happening, by disabling the automatic live area refresh in the system settings, meaning you remain in control of the devices connections at all times, and that there is absolutely no foul play on Sony’s part.

    However, there is likely hidden information (IE: A list of most recent gaming activity), being sent behind the scenes without any kind of notification going on, that you should be more concerned with, but this behaviour is covered by the EULA you agreed to in the PSN terms of service. The clause that covers data collection and its usage outlines this type of behaviour. And unless you’ve never signed into the PSN that is the only circumstance Sony aren’t allowed to collect this information, which is why its also mentioned in the system software updates you install after purchase, this way Sony has covered itself in any circumstance.

    Sony have no rights however to collect this information on a stock freshly purchased device that has never accepted a software update after being purchased or been connected by the current owner to the PSN. This would only stand up in court because at the point of sale you are not informed of the terms of the EULA, so don’t have an informed choice on wether you agree to the terms and conditions of usage rights attached to the purchase of the hardware or the system software contained within.

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