Cross Generation Console Wars Part 2: Wii vs Xbox

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  1. John says:

    PS2 and PS3 where on my top list.

  2. Esude says:

    Okay seriously! The Wii was a next generation from xbox, of course it is going to win. Now, Wii vs Xbox360, Wii def. loses. So really you shouldn’t compare one generation with another, especially two different consoles from different generations.

    • Sylen7Nato says:

      uh, wasnt the NES vs. PS2 even more of a gen gap??…but still, its more fun to compare what each system did for its time and how much of an impact it had on the industry…same gen matchups would be boring IMO…another good article.

      • Acid_Snake says:

        true, same gen matchups are all over the internet, just type “wii vs xbox 360″ or “xbox 360 vs ps3″ and millions of articles come out, it’s the same old cr*p. Now type “gamecube vs megadrive”, see how many come out (NONE).

    • Acid_Snake says:

      sorry but Wii beat the *** out of the xbox 360 and ps3, just look at sales, I say this and I don’t even like the Wii. You clearly missed the entire point of this article.

      the point -> .

      you -> .

      • Z says:

        You guys should really start using something like Disqus for your comments, so I can UPVOTE YOUR COMMENT.

      • mlc says:

        “The Xbox controller was highly criticized for its huge price, so much that it was given the title of the Biggest Controller”

        Typo alert, “price” should be size.

        • mlc says:

          accidental reply alert! this should be a separate post, but was messed up by me clicking reply prior to reloading and attempting to post a regular comment. lol

  3. TK says:

    I find it odd that you didn’t mention the Wii’s Netflix support in the media category.

    • Acid_Snake says:

      you are right, totally forgot about that, what a huge fail. But even so I don’t think it would help the Wii much either, I believe the xbox could also stream movies, I’m not 100% sure though

  4. fate6 says:

    You got a few things wrong like the Xbox HDD is 8GB with the later models being 10GB

    The Dreamcast 2 was at one point a real thing but was ditched when SEGA got a new CEO
    (it was to compete with the Xbox 360 and PS3)

    I will try to find the article about the Dreamcast 2
    (it never had a name since it never made it out of concept but mhee)

    • fate6 says:

      Found it and posted it on the ban thread in the off topic section ^__^

    • Acid_Snake says:

      two things:
      – I did say that the idea of the original xbox being the dreamcast 2 was just a rumor. There’s o deny that the xbox WAS based on the Dreamcast, but whether Microsoft just grab the Dreamcast 2 design and finished it, or whether they just improved on the original Dreamcast (i.e. copy their ideas) is beyond me.
      – I do not trust for a second an article that tells me Sega was planning a console to compete with the 360 and ps3. Sega had already started making games for their “competitors” way before the 7th gen was even unveiled.

      • fate6 says:

        You need to realize how long it takes to make a console
        if the estimated release was Q4 2005 then it still falls in line with them making hardware

        Infact it would seem they started to think up ideas around the time the Dreamcast was still being made
        (2000 – 2001?)

        • Acid_Snake says:

          which probably gives more power to the theory of Sega selling their Dreamcast 2 design to Microsoft and them releasing it as the “Xbox”, rather than the Dreamcast 2 being a direct 360-ps3 competitor. I think Sega was just trying to ensure their future in the market by making another system in case the Dreamcast failed, but when it did, they had no choice but to sell them to Microsoft. Think about it, if Sega was planning for the future, they would probably think of the top notch technology in existence in 2000-2001, and if you look closely, the Xbox is basically top notch technology in that era (700MHz Intel Pentium III, DVD drive, Hard Drive, Network, etc) when it comes to consoles.

    • Thrawn says:

      Uhmm weren’t the first versions of the xbox equipped with 10 gb st310211a ?
      Cause this is the drive I removed from my version 1 xbox with the 80mm cooler on the processor.
      And my second xbox is a version 4 with 20 gb, without the cooler.
      And my third box was a version 6 with an 80 gb drive.
      So I was just wondering.

  5. the3 says:

    I wonder how close the sales would be if you took out all the ppl that only bought a wii for wii sports and never bought another game 4 it I bet they would be alot closer. I likes the wii for shooting games it was awsome 4 those rail type shooters but sucked for pretty much anything else I bought a few differnt games 4 mine but outside of rail shooters, call of dutys, and mario wii most other games were almost unplayable. As far as xbox I bought 1 for halo cause I got it for 25 bucks but anything else ida rather had on ps2 so my xbox really didnt get alot of play time

  6. JackleJoe says:

    There is no way you can actually agree with this. The Wii, although it sold a crapload of systems, was pretty much a failure. There aren’t more than 10 games that are actually playable with the motion control. Its bogus to think that the Wii could be better. I would take a Xbox any day over a Wii. Gaahhhhh the anger in me is raging!

  7. Tnutbutter says:

    The Wii begin released after the Xbox and before the 360 in almost in a generation of its own. Sure it did not have media support, but it did have motion controls. Comparing the Wii to an original Xbox is like comparing the ps1 to the nes and snes.

  8. Arthanis says:

    I have been lurking for some time, but I think now it’s the time to comment. I am a pretty heavy hater of motion controls, but I still love my nintendo Wii. Much because of GC support (there were too many GC titles I would like to have played back then, but I couldn’t afford a GC at the time). As I think that GC controllers are also pretty crappy, I bought ps2 to gc adapters, and used ps2 controls to play every gc and some wii games.

    Aside from the awesome GC support, as crappy as the motion controls are (and many MANY developers thought that using motion controls alone were enough of an excuse to launch a title) still had some pearls that alone were worth buying the system (mostly nintendo 1st party titles, but there were occasionally some gems from other developers), using motion controls or not. Not to mention VC, that have some awesome gems from other consoles (and specially nintendo ones like SNES and N64).

    What we geeks need to understand is that the videogame market is about GAMES, not CONSOLES. What makes a console win or fails are its exclusives, and for that matter, xbox was (and still is) a massive failure. Sorry, but I don’t think that fable and halo are worth of having a console.

    So, as crappy as wii’s motion controls are and dated its graphics seemed, the only way to play some of the most awesome from its generation (like Zelda, Metroid, Pandoras Tower, Last Story, Mario, Donkey Kong and etc) is to have a Wii, and some of these games that were of enough quality to not be dependant of motion controls, allowing the player to use more traditional control methods (like GC or classic controller).

    Also, I think that Acid Snake could put some kind of Appendix talking about some of the console’s features when its modded, like emulators, media support, homebrew and etc. Even if it doesn’t count to the final score. I know that factory support for media features on the wii are pretty non existent, but when its modded it can be quite a cool toy, it even allow some games to be played without its dreaded motion controls. The same would go for the Xbox, it has some awesome homebrew that could be cited

    Thats all and sorry for the long post.

  9. Kalas74 says:

    Talking about the Wii and original Xbox and didn’t mention the homebrew?

    costanza.jpg

    • Acid_Snake says:

      It’s funny cause at one point I was going to talk about the Homebrew community as one of the categories, but I decided to stick with official material and removed the idea in the last minute.

  10. Somehting Something Somehting Light Side says:

    i have a wii, i use it to run backup game cube games, the wii games kinda suck

    • decookaaron says:

      You can mod the xbox original to do the same. UnleashedX was my dashboard and XBMC (XBox Media Center). You can do all the the emulators except PS2, Game Cube, Saturn, Dream Cast and obviously the newer ones. But you wore able to play ps1 cds, and other older game cds, even backups. It even had a wireless adapter and with mods you can browser the internet and many many other things. I was in the Xbox-Scene a long time ago before they started losing people when newer consoles came out.

  11. Alberto47 says:

    The Wii console is an exceptional for those who are beginners or who does not know of consoles, it is a platform for children.

  12. Chuckthetekkie says:

    I don’t care how powerful a system if the games aren’t fun. Look at the hugely popular game Minecraft. It doesn’t take crisp graphics and an emotional storyline to be a success.

    My all time favorite game is Super Mario Bros. 3 for the NES (Not the GBA version).

    I have owed so many consoles over the years and each has good and bad points. I actually bought the Xbox just so I could play Yu-Gi-Oh! Dawn of Destiny.

    I never had any major issues with my Xbox. As for the noisiest console, that would go to the Xenon version of the Xbox 360. That thing sounded like it was going to take off although mine lasted about 4 years before kicking the bucket.

    My favorite controller is the GameCube’s and my preferred controller for quite a few Wii games.

    • Acid_Snake says:

      I understand your point, but it’s kind of off-topic. First, both the Wii and Xbox are on par with graphics, secondly, I do not take power or graphics as a valid point, being that this is a “Cross Generation” console wars, so there will be obvious graphics leap between the console. So no, in this article I don’t count graphics either, I count the games.

  13. tinostar91 says:

    Just in case if you want to get some info what was behind the original Xbox, what’s main is that this video isn’t based on rumors -> http://youtu.be/HGBASxXhvsk

  14. Theredbaron says:

    How about this for comparison:

    Which one will be used longer? I still use my Xbox quite often, as it is a great little media center, since I have XBMC installed on it. My wii? Eh, pass. Havn’t used it in years.

    • Thrawn says:

      But you could also compare which will live longer.
      The wii, because it only has a dvd drive which when broken is easily swapped with another.
      The xbox has a bios locked hard drive which when broken prevents the box from booting at all. And the box has a pc dvd drive with a custom firmware which prevents it to be swapped with a new pc dvd drive. Also when the dvd drive from the box is removed it wont boot.
      The box has heat issues which the wii apparently doesn’t.
      So the wii will play in ten years while the xbox last working consoles will slowly but for sure die out.

      • fate6 says:

        Its been over 10 years and my v1.0 is still working like new :3

        • Thrawn says:

          Till your DVD drive dies, the integrated power supply burns through or the bad cooled intel centrino dies or suffers from hot spots or it partly “desolders” itself because this one is bga’d.
          Most common death is due to the power supplies electrolytic capacitors failing, that shoots either the fuse in the power supply or if you have bad luck, like I had with my version 6, it takes the whole motherboard with it. Then XBOX no more. XD

      • Acid_Snake says:

        I’ve seen a lot of people changing their Xbox’s hard drive for a bigger one, so I’m pretty sure there’s a way to bypass it, probably by hacking the system.

        • fate6 says:

          Yes but you have to lock the new HDD with the key on the eeprom

          its extremely time consuming and difficult but it is possible

          if you have a modchip or TSOP flash then you can bypass the check and no lock is needed

          • Thrawn says:

            Yeah if you want to change the drive, you need to unlock it, but this is a risky work done on a non modified system.
            You have a good chance to f*ck up the ATAPI controller on the mainboard which is a sever damage and renders the box useless.
            With a modded box, just push in a loader disc or enter your modchips bios, unlock the hdd, shutdown, swap, prepare with a loader disc so that it has the dashboard installed again. Lock or not (does not matter).

  15. I_Disagree says:

    I’m sorry Acid_Snake but it’s impossible to have unbiased opinions from people who have only used one of these consoles. Contests like these are irrelevant. Only one who has used both consoles can make a proper accurate analysis. IMHO. :)

    • Acid_Snake says:

      I have used both consoles, and I have done proper research.
      Even though, I have already said that this is mostly based on the facts that I have at hand, not personal opinion. If I were to give my personal opinion, I’d probably say both consoles are tied (maybe I give the slight edge to the Xbox cause I did enjoy playing halo with my friends back then).

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