More petitions regarding the Xbox One… Bring back DRM and other restrictive policies?

70 Responses

  1. kopko

    I think this is just troll from playstation fans. IT HAS TO BE lol..

  2. JeoWay

    Of course I signed this a while back 😀

    Why? I would love to see Xbox go down harder 🙂

    • Riku

      See, that’s ***. Competition is a good thing, if there’s no competition then they have no reason to improve. Stop slowing progress

    • Thrawn

      Uhm no good decision.
      If the competition becomes weaker, the prices of actual hardware and software become “harder” meaning there is little fluctuation, so a company like sony would be animated to hold their prices cause they can charge it. Due to the fact the competition is weak.

    • Davee

      This guy probably cuddles his Sony products at night.

      • Dmaskell92

        I respect JeoWay for speaking his mind, I would gladly sign this petition. That could hinder the sales of the Xbox One. It would only be slight payback for the way Microsoft sc*** me over time, and time again.

        • james way

          That’s ironic…respect JeoWay’s speaking of his mind, but please let’s not respect Davee’s. Thrawn’s and Riku’s. One it is malicious and two IT DOES have consequences on the future of console gaming. The competition drives each other to make themselves better, make better games, improve games and features. If only Sony existed or maybe two consoles only, then you’d be stuck with what THEY choose to give you. Perfect example the Vita. You got the Vita and the 3DS/DS. Both completely different markets though, so for the “gamer” market, just the Vita. Thus we ended up with a sandboxed system with 3G not 4G, promised features that we got late, got half what was promised or will never get until the PS4.

      • JeoWay

        How did you know Davee!?

        My PS3 cant stay away from me 😀

      • I have actually cought myself doing that lol

  3. anthony

    Microsoft: here is our new console you cant use use games and it has a 24 hour online check

    Gamers: that’s BS change it

    Microsoft: …well fine here we will take away the no used games and the 24 hour online check

    Gamers: change it back

    Microsoft: you mother f**kers

    lol just a comment someone posted that i wanted to share.

  4. anthony

    *used

  5. kuagelo

    Haven’t read the petition yet, but I guess they could bring back the non-crazy parts of the policy, if they really wanted to. I mean, check-in every 24 hours? Really?

  6. gunblade

    well i had no problem with the 24 check in herd was for games updates n patches think they download in the back ground wen system was in stand..n if ur playing online 24/7 24 hour check in be no problem unless u have no internet… the online passes was the only thing i dident like much…

  7. Chuckthetekkie

    My original 4 complaints about the Xbox One are:

    1. Stupid name
    2. Can’t play 360 games (MS said a fews ago it would)
    3. Mandatory Kinect
    4. Always online or no games

    Now it’s the 1st 3.

    I won’t even consider an Xbox One unless I can use the system with the Kinect device unplugged from the console. With Microsoft’s partnership with the NSA, they may secretly turn on Kinect and record even if you have set Kinect to be disabled. Until Kinect doesn’t have to be plugged in, I won’t even consider an Xbox One.

  8. CaptainJackSwallows

    My opinion on the xbone is

    bring back the supposedly “steam” of the xbone
    but don’t implement the 24hour online check in.

    Or if its possible, they could sell an xbox one(DRM Version)
    and xbox one (non DRM version)

    I don’t know *** how they run their business, so there’s my opinion.

  9. Thrawn

    Uhm *** is going on, I mean ***?
    Is the xbox community really that dumb? They would have never gotten that feature for reselling, sharing or treading their bought licenses.
    BASTA.
    Not even steam allows that.
    Why should microsoft allow reselling, sharing or trading on their platform, that destroys the market prices of the products and scares producers away.
    If they would have implemented that, than everything would be different, but they didn’t intend to do it that way.
    Every license is and was a one time buy without refunds.

    • the3

      Yeah really who is gonna pay full price for someone elses licenses the who pupose in reselling used games is to make them cheaper but a digital only xbox 1 could be a hackers dream and get raped worse then the psp did. I say make 2 versions one that only dose digital and has to be online and 1 that does br and no hdd that has no network connection then every one is happy

      • the3

        And only 20k ppl out of the 5to20mill ppl that will buy in the first few years aint much prob just the few hoping the 24hr drm check will defer piracy

        • DrDOA

          Again. Majority of PS fans are signing it. They want to see Xbox burn up in flames for some reason. That’s unfair and that’s sabotage. I mean, PS fans wouldn’t like it if the petition was to bring DRM to the PS4, would they?

  10. Alex

    Who knows, It could have been a good console. The problem is, they failed to deliver the console correctly, fans didn’t understand what these features would mean, how it could benefit gaming, only the negitives.

  11. Anthony

    bringing back drm will make xbox one better

  12. zorrodood

    this is so immature on both sides. if there’s a game on xbox one that i wanna play then i have to buy the console regardless.
    btw wasn’t the ps4 supposed to have a fancier name than ‘ps4’?

    • tinostar91

      Why do you think so? It’s 4th Playstation then why not Playstation 4?

      btw. number 4 is in Japan considered as lucky

      • Akutare

        No.
        It is unlucky, as it sounds like the word for death.
        From what I am given to understand it is less prominent now, but in the past, buildings would even be built with the fourth floor being skipped, and being named the fifth.

        • Thrawn

          Omfg XD watch out when the psFOUR will be available in SNOWWHITE!!!
          Nippon makebelieve i love it 🙂

        • HayAnonynony

          Wrong base language.

          In Chinese 4 is “si” which also means death. Technically it should be lucky because it’s formed of two pairs (2s). The Japanese ‘borrow’ those same words in their own language, so naturally, the superstitions have carried across.

          And yes, it’s not unusual for traditional buildings to be missing a fourth floor (or not exceed three stories) and properties numbered 4 are cheaper (or non-existent) on most streets. Even heavens stairs on the great wall has a double rise so it totals 443 instead of 444 (because that would be REALLY bad).

          Sorry, I’m rambling.

        • Chasez671

          I think they changed the word for “4” from being “Shi” to “Yon”. At least that’s what I was told.

          • Someone

            No, you can use both. It’s just that sometimes it sounds weird when you use one of the two. Like 7 is also “nana” or “shichi”. And yeah, shi means death xD

      • minimur is gay

        So…the Xbox one is the 2nd Xbox does that mean it should be called Xbox 2?!?!?!?!? =°X

        • tinostar91

          I’ve just replied to his comment that I don’t see any problem with naming 4th Playstation as PS4, nothing else

          btw. it’s 3rd xbox

          • Thrawn

            Omfg nippon people are just so uncreative. 🙂
            Tthey could have called it the Quadstation.
            Or psIV or ps cuatro or ps quattro … they don’t need to name it with a 4 they could make a roundabout.
            The vita wasn’t named psp2, it got its own name.

        • thediamante

          its the 3rd xbox already.

      • thediamante

        Actually they had a problem naming it Playstation4, because the number 4 is unlucky in japan.

        But they agreed to name it ps4 because it would be impractical to give it another name. As it is the 4th playstation.

        @zorrodood I think you confused the project name with the actual name of the ps4. “Orbis” is just a project code/name or some ***.

  13. compccs

    I come down on this like this. .. sure both consoles have positives and negatives but what has separated them thus far is the initial announcement and delivery of that announcement. I mean we really know very little of both consoles and the public hasn’t had a real good look at them to decide. Now where it seemed to go wrong for Microsoft was what they decided to show first and their general attitude about this new piece of hardware. I think marketing at Microsoft needs some real work and not just for their Xbox division which I guess might happen with this whole restructuring idea they have now which is a problem of it’s own. Sony decided to play on the strengths of the hardware and hope that’s enough for now till they decide where to go from there. I think it seemed to work for them plus making a mockery of their competition which I guess is part of the game in this industry. I just hope Microsoft gets their act together or Xbox will be the least of their worries… As for Sony let’s just hope their console works as well and magical as they say it does or I’m sure you’ll see angry fans coming from a different direction. Both companies aren’t living the high life right now so I think either side to act like they know what’s best is ludicrous. But I guess in the end it comes down to … build it they will come

  14. svenn

    Honestly, internet always on is just a console aka 2013; Most games need internet connection aswell … ’bout DRM or policy; while Sony might be the friend of the gamers, the company’s making games only do it for money, and if XONE is more strict they will be more reluctant to make games for XONE;

    As to those “check-ins” well, I think its a marketing failure; I assume this is linked to the software, a console will “catch” the user data for around 1 day, so you will need to login every day to access your user data, that is implemented in every game; Lets say username, your funny avatar, ect ect. Thought to consumers this is like you need to tick a clock to be able to game … bad marketing.

    As to who has the best console, purely spec there non-comparable; They are very alike, and the difference in performance variate on the game and other factors; Fact is, that 99% of performance is based on the game maker and not on the console itself;

    I’m not a fan of Xbox nor Sony and I don’t plan buying any of those consoles; (I’m a PC user)

    • MarSprite

      99%? you say you’re a PC user and you disregard hardware limitations? I’ll admit you can make wonderful software for inferior hardware, but there are limits. If you surpass those limits, it’s going to take better hardware to pull it off, or you’re going to have to cut corners. That said, from what I’ve seen of the specs they seem very similar.

  15. ViRGE

    I thought I was the only one that thought this way, so actually I’m a bit relieved I’m not the only one.

    I actually liked most of what Microsoft had proposed with their original DRM scheme for the XB1. Full installs with no need to put the disc in to play the game? The ability to give away/resell digital titles? The former isn’t done for any console today, and even Steam doesn’t allow the latter. When everything else is wireless on these consoles, that’s a big step up from having to keep track of your discs and dinking with the console to swap them out.

    Of course DRM is a continuum, so this is a tradeoff. The 24 hour check-in policy is clearly the tradeoff to discless games. It’s how you make sure a game is no longer being played when the game has been sold, and to keep from having a large number of people playing off of the same copy at the same time (i.e. buy a disc copy and share it with your friends). You can’t have the ability to sell games in this manner without a way to revoke that license on each console, which requires the check in.

    But you know what? I have a broadband Internet connection. So while the 24 hour check-in isn’t convenient by any definition of the word, at the same time it would have no negative impact on me. I’m already “always on” anyhow – it’s not as if my non-handheld consoles go anywhere – so this was never a big deal for me. A 24 hour check-in as a tradeoff for being able to go discless and sell digital games (not to mention sc*** over Gamestop) was well worth it.

    That said I do see the point of those on the other side. Not everyone has a broadband connection (though I don’t know anyone who plays games without some kind of Internet connection), and quite frankly a big change like this really is scary. Something like this would improve the experience for the vast majority of users, I believe, but certainly there’s nothing Microsoft could do that would make things better for and/or satisfy everyone at the same time.

    Finally, as a point of pedantry, DRM is a continuum. What Microsoft was proposing wasn’t “DRM” as if the concept has a singular form and implementation. Even the current scheme used for the PS3, 360, and the latest plan for the XB1 is still DRM, just at the other end of that continuum. In fact disc based DRM is basically the original DRM, as implemented way back when in the era where hard drives became common and games could be installed rather than running off of floppy disks. Consequently Microsoft’s original proposal is no more or less DRM than their current proposal, so it’s disingenuous to say that people want MS to “bring back” DRM. You’ve had it since the very first Xbox.

  16. tinostar91

    Many xbox fans still think that MS took down their DRM policy just because of gamers but I don’t think so, imo they did it because of money, as always. I really don’t think that in case there will be no PS4 they will take it down. It takes 1 update to remove it, how many updates would it require to bring it back?

    • ndh777

      That is the same principle. Fans = Paying customers. If their fanbase hated the product, chances are high that the sales will plummet because if fans won’t verbally support a product, why would they spend their hard-earned money on the product?

  17. Crzylegz

    For all the brain dead “Fan Boys” signing this petition just shows how ignorant you are. Think about this, as “Gamers” why would we want only one home system to play? Let me guess “Because PS is better” , thought you say that. As being gamers it’s all about the experience, the story, the connection, that makes a game great. Yes we have our opinions about which systems reigns suprem, but to completly try to cripple a console that has brought us “Fun” cause that’s what it’s about is absolutely absurd. You should be ashamed as “Gamers”. I own and play all systems because There is to much fun to be had.

  18. zerobacker

    Xbox One suck,,
    nsa, FBI, white house, i washing you gamer,
    i see your move in you home *** MICROSOFT
    DRM
    DRM
    DRM

  19. SSJ-Vita

    I actually want both ps4 and xbox3 to fall on their face but only in the proprietary sense, not at the expense of the end users experience and causing them to have less fun. Pretty much everyone at one point or another has been shafted and almost no platform has bragging rights of a history of making the end users experience better, usually more complicating. Eeh maybe I’m a dead wrong negative nancy who knows.

  20. Kyu

    Why not have a few of both…
    Like,proceed as planned,but removing the forced features (always online,forced Kinect) and tweaking the planned “No used games” to something that needs the game be “activated” on a console locally or sth and then “de-activating” it for when you want to pawn it (it makes no actual sense at all though).