Is Illumiroom Microsoft’s Diamond Sword In The Next-Gen Battle?

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60 Responses

  1. wololo says:

    Crap, I’m interested in knowing how it works, but even more on when Microsoft will shut up and take my money.

    It hurt me when they said “proof of concept” at the beginning of the video, which says as you mentioned that it might not be there yet.

    That being said, I see nothing in there that wouldn’t work out of the box on a typical xbox360+kinect. There doesn’t seem to be anything that requires new technology in there, it’s just very clever use of existing technology + awesome algorithms and ideas.

    • GuitaristMatt says:

      It looks really good, but at about 4 minutes on the second video they start letting you know that it is completely up to the developers to enable the Focus + Context mode (the extended game screen). That kind of upsets me, but we’ll probably see more at E3. Maybe they’ve fixed that.

    • youbetcha says:

      Really you wonder how this works wololo? There is no tricks or mirrors here.

      A camera takes a picture of the room from the perspective of the projector. This image is used to generate geometrical vector data using edge detection algorithms. This image is also used as a colour reference, for example my wall is red, the colour the game wants to project is yellow, so the projector emits green light onto the red wall.

      All of this can be achieved to some extent using any projector that connects to a computer. All the software and algorithms required already exist in open source Linux repositories.

      This effect will often require extra work on the programmer’s behalf. Extra CPU/GPU is required to process both the projection colour and the extra geometry/visuals. The demonstration of a movie using this technology is unrealistic, and would not apply to your existing movie collection.

      Its a gimmick that will never overcome its physical limitations – background colour and ambient lighting will render this useless for all but the most committed gamer who enjoys solitary confinement in a white washed room with the lights turned off.

      • wololo says:

        Nope, I am not wondering how it works. I was just saying that the explanatory video they published is interesting, but that I would be more interested in a release date than technical videos at this point. I guess my point got lost in translation :)

        (Edit: yeah, I can see how my wording was poorly chosen. What I meant instead of “crap, I am interested in knowing how it works, but…” was “crap, I don’t mind technical explanation videos like these, but…”)

      • Minimur 12 says:

        I wanted to know :) thanks !

      • Acid_Snake says:

        that last paragraph summarize what I was gonna say, yet another gimmick that won’t add anything to gameplay and will be extremely limited, and possibly expensive.

  2. NoName says:

    And 5 years from now on consoles will still have so much spare power that it’ll in no way be a decision between bad looking game + projector thing and good looking game + without projector thing.

    I guess PS 4 games will either generally look better than their Xbox counterparts or be dragged down to Xbox levels. Unless of course all that extra stuff isn’t reducing the performance at all.

  3. Germain says:

    WOW , microsoft have my money with this , something new and better !

    WIIU = FAIL

  4. Norml says:

    It makes sense, it seems slightly above a gimmick feature if the room was setup perfectly to execute such a feature. This could possibly help some people stay focused during gameplay being more immersed into the game at hand. Tricking the brain isn’t always an easy task and the “virtual reality”/motion controls we have nowadays just don’t cut it.

    So reality sets in and the room or tech just won’t be perfect & we are stuck with another expensive gimmick.

  5. Thrawn says:

    I already posted it back than when ilumiroom was announced:
    It turns the TV completely obsolete. Why needing a TV when the beamer/projector could A: project the main picture and B: the “ilumiroom” ambience lightning.

    • wololo says:

      Because the projector will not have the brightness, contrast, and resolution of your TV. If you’ve ever played video games with a projector you’ll know what I am talking about.

      • Thrawn says:

        Well that’s only partly true, most led beamers are already better in ways of contrast then any tv could be, they only lack in brightness on the projected surface.
        But this is only a matter of time as development never stops.
        And I have played games with projectors, back in the days when the gamecube was NEW and the xbox just hit the shelfs. I had a sony VPL-EX1 and that was an awesome tool. I had my whole gaming setup down in the basment where we could be as loud as we wanted. I still remember those days when I was playing halo in coop and halo 2 and zelda four sword with the gbas… I miss those days.

        • inicuo says:

          i agree with you, there’s no point of a tv because a LED projector could replace it, but it would be hell too expensive, so the unique logique i see here is that: this microsoft projector will be surprisely cheap, otherwise it won’t succes.

        • xyzmanas says:

          still, it won’t be able to focus the projections and project looming amlight effects on the wall at the same time, you will either get the focused game or the out of focus effects not both at the same time from one projector.

          • GuitaristMatt says:

            The same thing with a monitor compared to TV

          • Thrawn says:

            Not this is not correct, it could be done.
            As microsoft stated it scans the surface where it is being projected on, so it is possible to focus both the effects as well as the main picture. And additionally the indepth and focusing data is available for the xbox as it calculates it.
            You would be right if it were 2D video data, as there are no indepth information so focusing on two different things becomes impossible.

      • zethfox says:

        i beg to differ, any projector with darkchip technology can far surpass a lcd in all 3 aspects. a half decent projector set up will run you about 2500$ bucks and thats only half assing it.

        projectors are really a “you get what you paid for” product.

  6. row says:

    this is just stupid, it projects a blurry image onto what ever crap you have around your tv and room and is rather distracting

    • stOneskull says:

      well, it’s not for everyone.. you and me, for example..

      but it’s interesting..

      the kind of thing i’d visit my friend’s home to try out..
      and then return home to my playstation

  7. Yes says:

    I think the concept looks very cool, but i cant really see how it will enhance the gaming experience a lot. You’re going to be focusing mostly on the screen itself, so seeing all the details around in the room might be difficult.

    But i’m interesting in seeing the product anyway =)

  8. jon says:

    I would say it’s unnecessary.
    Likely 200+ dollars, totally not worth it.

    Might as well buy a mirror and set it next to your tv.

  9. chaos64 says:

    I don’t think it will be worth it the effect doesn’t look good and developpers won’t focus on it since they’ll do multi platform games. On top of that.. Why an fps on the picture why not an rpg or an adventure game where you can appreciate the environment?

  10. EJ says:

    Kind of interesting, but I couldn’t see myself using it with every game. Some games though this may be perfect. It’s definitely not a system seller to me, but a little added feature is always welcome, long as the price is decent.

  11. Bullshiters says:

    Another useless gimmick brought to by Microsoft

  12. wolframio says:

    this gonna be like the 3d on the ds, used only one time and leave you stupid and blinf and you dont use it anymore…

  13. ivo says:

    howcomes my ps3 cfw 3.55 only does wanne update to official firmware ? are u sure ur the hypervisor hackers ?

  14. ivo says:

    so what about ps3 game save exploits in km that could do like vhbl and load eboots (no more return to xmb?) and a savegame exploits that keeps comfort to included multiman with psp psx ps2 classics support or am i still dreaming next gen … akak this gen xD
    thanks to u all ;)

  15. HaYNigloo says:

    I disagree with your statement about this being next gen gaming. We’re on the verge of VR with the Oculus Rift! Seeing how you’ll be immersed in the realm through a headset, contradicts having a projector in the room. No thanks M$, but I’l take the Rift over this projector any day!

  16. svenn says:

    Well the concept is fairly simple and has nice results, the issue is actually with projectors, they have a very low resolution and short lifespan. Its actually very easy to make, people did a simular thing with raspberry pi’s and leds around a tv. (which is in essence the same concept)

    But the problem is the projector :)

  17. dorron says:

    Another crap like 3D with glasses. It will be fun the first 10 games you play and then it will become something you really don’t need or want at all.

    This is power consuming and distracts the player from the game.

    • svenn says:

      Where talking gaming here, where you push your supercomputer (/GPU) to render a nice view you pass in less then 3 seconds and 95% of the player doesn’t notice, power consuming is not a problem in gaming industry.

      As long as it remains ‘background’ its actually common to how humans watch, we focus our attention on a small place (== screen) but also see more then only the screen (=the surrounding). So I doubt it will be distracting, in fact this is where i’d say you are more in the game.

  18. 666 says:

    Is this Microsoft’s plot to rid the world of epileptics? Because I’m fairly certain they’re all going to seizure and die once exposed to this contraption.

  19. Tom says:

    Got to agree with you Minimur this looks like a fantastic bit of kit that will add peripheral vision to gaming (something even the Occulus Rift can’t boast). The beauty of it is that it doesn’t need to be high resolution… Infact it can be very low because it doesn’t really need to show any real detail.

    I would love the PS4 to add support for the Rift that’d really make it the perfect console for me.

  20. scnege says:

    gimmick

  21. pspfanMOHH says:

    AWESOME is all I can remember, Sony learn from them…maybe you will make something like SAO one day.

    • Cheesethief says:

      They will. Then they will update it and remove the logout button.

      • Thrawn says:

        XD yeah and when you die ingame then you really die… think about it, they wouldn’t be able to sell any new games or dlc anymore XD
        But they would make it like, if you die you’ll have to pay for another live and if you want to log out they will charge you again :P

  22. MicrosoftAreConJobs says:

    Gimmick to get people to buy this online drm piece of a crud console.

  23. Andrew says:

    this would make me buy an xbox

  24. Gr0wn says:

    Im using Illumi Room already :P
    Just smoke some weed, its fucking awesome every time.

  25. BakedOnSomeSour says:

    this shit will be awesome when im high!! looks like im getting an xbox!!!

  26. Shinny says:

    The idea is just fantastic, but i can only imagine how much a game would cost for a new gen xbox with that feature and i hope microsoft wont do such stupid things like their own only-comptable projector like sony did with their memory cards and other crap..

    • svenn says:

      as Wololo stated, actually this is a very cheap option; in some older games you can set FOV (Enemy Territory), making it you see more of the sides. This is a similar idea; The biggest issue is stuff that is next to the screen and stuff but in a empty room any tech geek/hardware hacker could make something similar.

      As to projector, your right; though m$ is kinda smarter in that; also hardware = mostly loss. games pay the bill ;)

  27. Goteki 45 says:

    Too many gimmicks for next gen. Head might explode

  28. Scott says:

    Looks lame, and I’m not going to pay by usage rather than a one time buy… Especially not going to pay for my son to watch me play (look at kinect patent to detect people for purpose of charging based on how many viewers). The future of gaming is either ps4 or wii u (could go wii u depending on the drm Sony decides to go with…)

  29. Thrawn says:

    Now I know what that crapy ilumiroom reminds me off.
    Philips ambilight. Very similar crap, it only disturbs the ambience.

  30. newGeo says:

    this is funny. this is not going to happen

  31. Brian says:

    Leave it to Microsoft to think everyone is rich and has a huge room for gaming. Most of us don’t. This is one more reason Japanese gamers will have for not buying their console. In Japan homes are really small.

  32. lol 5 ever says:

    wololo do you play league of legends xD if you did youd make a port for it on the vita

  33. n3rk3 says:

    This is 2000&nice yea I bought this shit!
    Imagin Halo 5 on this!!! Awesome

  34. TStrauss says:

    The fanboy brigade out in full force these days?

    All console makers are banking on gimmicks. Microsoft with Kinect 2.0/ illumiroom, Sony with the Playstation Eye/ weird light bard on the controllers (and let’s not forget rear touch panels on the Vita!), and Nintendo with its tablet-controller. They’re all looking for the next “Wii.” Considering how much money the Wii made Nintendo, can you blame them?

  35. cool but i think this is really expensive. .and i can play games with anykind of tv screen. .

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