OUYA: is it ok to review an unfinished product?

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39 Responses

  1. Jd8531 says:

    Good article, it’s been awhile since we got a long one from you :) I think it’s fair to an extent to review it, however in a manner that doesn’t judge it as final. I think it’ll help push the developers to make it better. If its a good product though it should have no issue with early reviews, for example the Oculus Rift. It shouldn’t have been sent if it was at “3 out of 10″ stage to anyone IMO.
    My only problem with Ouya is that it’s getting hardware revisions every year, and its already out dated, really wish it was sporting at least a T4. I may grab one for watching movies and as an on the go “out of town” console.

  2. DeathOfChaos says:

    Not getting an Ouya, never seemed even the slightest interesting.

  3. I might get a MK802 III next week now lol :)

  4. StanSmith says:

    QUOTE “is it ok to review an unfinished product?”
    Think about it. ALL games these days are unfinished and have 0-day patches so when the reviewers get a hold of it and review it thats not the final and unfinished version so whats the problem here?

    Thats how 99% of reviews are done, with an unfinished product.

  5. gunblade says:

    yea i was getting one for media but might get an mk802 III or that vita android thing wish the valve steam box was cheaper cuz that thing be sick.size wize prety mean..

  6. DNSDies says:

    There’s no problem with reviewing an unfinished product, as long as the review sticks mostly to the points of the product that are unlikely to be changed.

    For example, the Ouya is unlikely to get a faster processor, so it’s being outperformed by the phone du jour of the Android Family, and 27 other phones readily available for less than $100 from an cell provider.

    I think the Ouya especially deserves this review because it was funded by naive fans, and they have a right to know how their investment has been squandered.

  7. Thrawn says:

    Makes everything shine in a different light.
    Still, lets wait for the finished product.

  8. DNSDies says:

    Also, regardless of what Kickstarter does to try and protect itself, failure to deliver a product is STILL fraud, and they are accessories to it if they do nothing.

  9. uir says:

    raspberry pi still better for me :D

  10. Yes says:

    ” the final mark (which is what will stick in people’s mind) of 3.5 out of 10″

    I think this is one problem with reviews indeed. I dont mind that scores are given in reviews though, but i guess that someone just look at the score and kinda ignores what the actual reviews says. I think it would be good not to give any form of score or rating in these kinda of reviews, since it would “force” people to read the actual review instead of just looking at a score and say “its good” or “its bad”.

  11. Pholly says:

    I knew this thing was going to be a piece of sh…..

  12. tecal2002 says:

    Well at least the kickstarter investor got a good lesson in stock trading and investing. Essentially your gambling on someones idea that not only they will deliver but that it will succeed and be profitable. A good return is never guarenteed and startups are especially risky. I think the key lesson is to find out as much about who runs the company as possible before you invest, good management is critical. And if it looks to good to be true, then its too good to be true.

  13. Scarecrow says:

    I think Ouya is a amazing project, really, and it can have multiple uses for a cheap price (99 dolars and a Tegra 3, is ok for me, can even run PPSSPP at his finest). At least is very cheap here in Brazil, where smartphones and shit are expensive like hell.

    The point is, is a good start. Ouya’s creators claimed that will be more versions, so is perfectly possible that we have an Ouya 2 with a Tegra 4 in the future. Ouya just need more positive feedback, somehow I feel this guys are bombing him just for the sake of it. Ouya isn’t made by a multicompany like Sony or MicroShit, and this guys are waiting something at PSVita levels. =P

  14. electriceye says:

    Great article as always, wololo!
    I also think the software absolutely should not be reviewed.
    Although they could’ve made a better controller.
    I may get it, but that’d be hard considering where I live.

  15. I’m really happy to see the first person to post was mature enough to not write first that is so dumb and childish.

  16. Chezni says:

    Wait a minute…the 100 dollar console doesn’t include a controller…. this is not really my idea of a deal. I’ll stick to linking my rooted android smartphone to my TV.

    • wololo says:

      It does include a controller. Not sure were you read the opposite. The *second* controller costs extra, like on any other console.

      • vitaninja0420 says:

        ok heres tha deal, i read this artical and looked into it…..def gonna pre order it. But games have to havwe a free aspect to them sooooooooo…….WAGIC!!!!!!!Right up there on my oyua !!!

  17. KonataIzumiZero says:

    The way I see it is:

    do you see many tegra3 cpu out there for a low price like this? escially since it is quad core.

    I mean compare it to the devices such as the nexus 7 and 10

    I mean it might hardware flaws but people who love modifying and rooting the console can lead into a whole different area.
    They can probably fix the software flaws too even.

    I do not plan to modifying any time soon when it releases. Plus I wonder how a mod of Cyanogenmod 10 port will be good for this :3.

    • seinre says:

      why compare it to phone ? it’s not even a phone, and it lacks many things that phandroid has :P
      if u gonna compare it, go with XBOX 360 vs PS3 vs OUYA vs Wii U

      • vitaninja0420 says:

        no

      • KonataIzumiZero says:

        lol its not a phone the nexus 7 and 10 are tablets
        the nexus 4 is a phone with the tegra3 cpu

        and I not going compare that to those because I am saying if you hadn’t read,

        “do you see many tegra3 cpu out there for a low price like this? escially since it is quad core.”

        I was only comparing prices that’s all. I mean where else can you find a android device with the tegra3 cpu at 100$ range

  18. HaYNigloo says:

    I’m a backer, I still feel the OUYA is a great idea. The OUYA team is the problem here, and the mention of the Oculus… The Oculus team also came from KickStarter, but is doing better with transparencies/hardware/software/etc… As far as the question goes, I don’t think I’ll be using my LE KickStarter edition. I’m gonna keep it boxed as a novelty item(1st Gen), and a remind of the risk I took with little reward to date.

    • seinre says:

      from the start i don’t have any faith to OUYA team. sorry, but it’s no hope for cheap console to bring AAA exclusives

  19. The_S says:

    I for one would love to play games I make on the OUYA and see them on HD TVs. I also would love to play any kind of video format on it because I have a lot of anime in 1080p but all of them are .MKV files and can’t play them on my Xbox or PS3. I’m aware you can extract .MKV files and put them back together into .MP4 so you can play them but I’m lazy.

  20. Dark Knight says:

    Before this OUYA craze, I wanted to get a 3DS. Then when the OUYA was announced, I totally forgot about the 3DS and my mind focused on this device. Now that I’m reading all these articles, I’m really not that excited anymore and the 3DS is crawling back into my mind.

    I don’t really care about the half-assed phone ports or shitty indie games. I only want this machine for emulation and XBMC (which are all working well ’til this date, they’re actually getting better and better (more optimized emulators, support, etc..)) but if there are hardware issues (controller specifically), it may very well impact the way I enjoy this console. Though you are right, it’s too early to judge. I guess I should wait for the final product before I make my final decision…. And I’m still not going to buy anything until I get some customer feedback.

  21. tryrush deppy says:

    if it were shown to play back-ups of like PSP, PS2, Saturn and MAME (via emulation) i’d buy it and do whatever needed… jump thru rings of fire while riding a whale… to get that end result.

  22. svenn says:

    There is no such a thing as releasing before its finished. The moment you go to production, your hardware product is finished as in the first 10k models minimum. So any OUYA will have the same hardware issues as described.

    As to software, its never finished; however once your first version is out that is what and will always be the most important reference. Most def. if you want to go open all the way.

    You buy a game console, the worst thing you can do is make no games for it. I won’t buy OUYA, I dislike TV gaming.

  23. Funny says:

    LOL, this thing looks like a piece of garbage. The Vita looks to have better graphics and this console Ouya looks like it was built for Piracy.

    • tryrush deppy says:

      don’t let the flapping sails and skull flag fool you, it’s for AAA exclusive titles. really. seriously. i’m not kidding. for reals. i ain’t joshin’.

  24. TStrauss says:

    A fair question, and a tricky one too. I’ll toss in my two cents, for what it’s worth.

    The Ouya made several mistakes that are irreversible.

    First, they gave what is basically a beta product to the public who financially supported them. I would call Kickstarter backers their core demographic. Sorta like how those who preorder the next Halo are the biggest Halo fans. You want them to have a great experience, not sub-par software and shoddy hardware. Unfortunately, many of their backers are also in the media. Burn end users, you lose core customers. Ouch. Burn the media, you get sucky reviews and lose those on the fence. Also ouch.

    Second, while it is probably unfair to criticize things that will change (interface, possibly controller latency, software lineup, etc), hardware is fair play. Lets say they fix the problems people are having with the gamepads. That’s great, except they’ve basically given broken hardware to their core market while giving better hardware to their late adopters. Just isn’t good business.

    Third, if Ouya thought they wouldn’t get reviewed for this “closed beta,” they were sorely mistaken. Kickstarter backers didn’t sign an NDA. Every open beta of Windows gets ripped to pieces in reviews. For weal or woe, this is how the tech industry rolls.

    So is it fair? In some ways yes, in others no. But it is no surprise, and if I ran Ouya, I’d get stuff fixed before the negative press dragged me down.

  25. MYLOkai says:

    I’ve made 3 pledges.
    1. Shadowrun
    2. Nomsters
    3. OUYA

    Nomsters failed to deliver my goods. I was promised in-game currency and a copy of the game. The app on iOS ended up being free and I still wait on my avocados. The ONLY reason why I backed this project is because a good friend of mine is an employee there. She’s kind of cute too.

    I am definitely not saying Oooh yeah! as of yet due to shipping delays, though I sail on the same ship as you, unenthused.

    Shadowrun is the only Kickstarter projected where my faith stays strong. I have been following this devteam since the original games on the SNES/SEGA, and have been hoping for a proper sequel to be announced. Kickstarter made this dream a reality.

    So in the end, I have learned 1 thing. Only back kickstarter projects that I truly believe in.

  26. I’m gone to inform my little brother, that he should also go to see this website on regular basis to take updated from latest gossip.

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