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The Vita hacking scene, a community in need of fresh blood?

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124 Responses

  1. Topjohnwu says:

    Great article, much useful information!!

    • boriswinner says:

      I think we should ask for making a forum on XDA.
      We can to it there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354

      • Demonbutter says:

        THIS! I remember when I first got my one x. At&t had the bootloader locked down and no one could figure it out… The community started a bounty to unlock to boot loader. After awhile some guy came along and made a program to unlock it….. If I rem correctly he walked away with well over 500 bucks for unlocking it….. Maybe the vita needs something like a bounty to get the ball rolling…. Nothings free in life so I wouldn’t see why 10 bucks would bother anyone. We should all deff start suggesting a thread at xda and start a bounty.

        • wololo says:

          If not for the legal concerns I would have started the bounty myself ages ago. I actually already have money secured for that sole purpose, and am just lacking the legal visibility on how to make this happen while not stepping anywhere close to the DMCA (or its local equivalent in France, DAVDSI).

          • Demonbutter says:

            Ahhhh good point…. I always forget about dmca… Hopefully someone can find a loop hole or just start a fire under some new hackers….. Time will tell I guess

  2. Narles says:

    This statement is incorrect: “And with the exception for jailbreaking phones revoked this year in the US.”
    Unlocking cell phones became illegal but jailbreaking is still legal. There’s a huge difference. Unlocking relates to a carrier’s ability to ensure that a phone only operates on their own (and their licensed partners’) networks and usually requires some kind of baseband exploit or modification. Jailbreaking allows users to have root access to a device that would not normally allow it.

  3. NiK says:

    Give Vita a forum at XDA Developers, I bet some devs with their PSVita lying around will try to play with it, and maybe even get good results!

    • Boriswinner says:

      Yes, making a forum on XDA is a good idea. I think we need to ask for that.

      • hgoel0974 says:

        Yeah, but will they be interested?

        • Demonbutter says:

          They might if you start a bounty on the vita…. I’ve seen plenty bountys over there get good results

          • Mr. MaGoo says:

            That is a great fourm as well. With those minds, I am sure that we would be able to see an android based vita some day with a modified romfrom perhaps the xperia play.

          • aerinas says:

            PLEASE, don’t let it be android 😛 That would be sch a waste of the Vita’s capabilities…. I’m all in for some version of linux.

  4. Dockotis says:

    First, this is a good article, and very long read! Kudos!
    Second, I have had many thoughts fully submersing myself into the psvita scene by taking some from psp, and android… The things that has kept me from that are simple… Life and knowledge.
    I still require more knowledge first and foremost to be of real use. I will gladly learn, but require someone to be there to explain when just text alone cannot…
    Also, with life I’m dealing with College, Military and Personal things…

    I won’t mind adding learning what I don’t know into the mix, but I have yet to find someone who could help as explained… Besides, some things are not really documented in a way thats more understandable to those who are not experts already…

  5. rafael707 says:

    long time i seen a good read from wololo.. thanks

  6. Deagle275 says:

    Nice post . Wololo , some people say that when the vita is fully hacked it will be able to emulate gamecube . Will it ?

  7. MarSprite says:

    I feel like you hit the nail on the head with this article.

  8. capcomlegend says:

    im just gonna put my vita back in its case and be patient

  9. William A.U. (NeonAera) says:

    Really great article, wololo! Good interesting long read.

  10. NNNRT says:

    Now that’s what I call a useful understandful article! 😛 Thanks Wololo! :)

  11. Miotepx says:

    This is quite the wall of text…Besides that though, I feel as if a different approach to this should be thought of to solve the problem at hand..

  12. Josef says:

    “Additionally, with the release of Playstation Mobile (formerly Playstation suite), Sony have made it less “acceptable” to hack their device on the ground of interoperability and homebrews.”

    Sure that’s really nice if you live in Japan, Australia or the USA, but what about the rest of the world where PSM isn’t avalible yet. Yeah, sony is working on bringing it to us but, when?; and with the advent of the PS4 I don’t think it’s going to be a priority.

  13. MRCHUNKS says:

    a wise man once said, forgive your enemies but never forget their names.

  14. jlo138 says:

    Funny you mention Datel. I never owned a gamecube until recently and have been interested in playing backups on it (I have a wii). I had to spend $30 ($20 + $10 ship to U.S) for Datel SD Media Launcher to make that happen. Didn’t want to do the solder method.

  15. AyeGuy says:

    Indeed hacking a device as complex as the vita proved to be a little difficult for those acoustumed to the simplisity of the psp.

  16. ivo says:

    hi i disgress … unix as psp has no virusses only programmers

    yet on the other hand my tiff colection shrunk when i connected my 2.71 tiff psp to any pc with a virus scanner
    thank u mcafee

    • hgoel0974 says:

      It seems there were two:

      Once downloaded the virus Trojan.PSPBrick leaves the PSP inoperable. F-Secure has also identified another virus, EXPLOIT 2G PSP Team V1.RAR, which deletes necessary files on the Sony PSP and apparently the process is irreversible.

  17. johnny says:

    Wololo, how about helping with the 3DS scene. Right now that’s one device that needs some cracking. I remember it was announced they had something up their sleeves, but not an update since.

    • pirate city says:

      Why? I think it’s around same state as the Vita right now.

      The 3DS can play DS, GBA, etc games just fine right now with a flashcart last time I checked. Haven’t really been keeping up with the 3DS though…

      • Kyu says:

        Actually….
        The 3DS can only play DS games perfectly with a flashcart.
        There are issues with everything else.Which get bigger the newer the console is (GBA emulation works better on the psp/vita right now…after all,they “work differently”).

        On a theoretic level,the 3DS is in a better state;there is native kernel access involved.

  18. Hellgun says:

    maybe too hard for ppl alone. And i doubt company will release anything if they can not make some money from it.

  19. Yes says:

    “I would claim that Sony has no interest in their customers’ security in general (did we mention some of your credentials on the PSP are stored in plain text?)”

    Is it only based on the PSP example? Eventhough i agree that this shouldnt happen, i’m not sure how much it means in the overall scheme regarding Sony and how they view the security of the consumers today. The PSP was designed in 2003/2004, how are things on the PS3, Vita, Sony phones and tablets?

    I think that Sony are very aware of the security regarding their consumers’ information, especially after the PSN hack. That was a big shake up for Sony i believe. I dont know how Sony were i.e 2-3 years ago, but what matters the most is how they are today.

    But overall a good article, i enjoyed reading it :)

    • hgoel0974 says:

      6 years ago, I believe that normal people didn’t know how to open a file which doesn’t have a .txt extension (WinXP)

      • Yes says:

        Hehe, yeah, i dont think that the PSP stuff was really a big security risk (if that is what you mean?). People needed to get their PSP stolen or hacked remotely somehow (using a virus for example), and then the person who did this would have to be knowledgeable on how to find the PSN login information.

        But as mentioned, stuff like this isnt necessary and it should be protected better regardless, but the security risk in this specific case was probably very small at least.

    • wololo says:

      At this point, this is mostly a matter of personal opinion, but the PSP is not the only example I have in mind. Of course the hack from 2011 was the “best” example of Sony’s lack of care for their customers’ security, but another example is the rootkit scandal in 2005. I would also mention how they threatened Aibo hackers in 2005 on the ground of the DMCA, only to stop supporting their robot-dog a few years later.

      More recently maybe, the content manager assistant on the Vita, or the Blu-ray security specifications tell me that they care much more about protecting their own intellectual property than they care about protecting their customers. Which would sound “normal” for a company, but is completely the opposite of what successful hardware/software companies do today. Think of the customer service at Apple or Amazon, and compare it to the Customer service at Sony. Good luck getting a replacement unit if you broke your PS3 or your Vita, while getting a replacement unit is a fairly common “happy ending” story for iPhone, iPad, or Kindle owners.

      Sony are stuck in the paradox of being a content owner (movies, music), a content distributor (PSN), and a high quality hardware manufacturer, all in the same company. They don’t know if they should have their customers pay for the service, the content, or the hardware. In doubt, they make us pay for all of them, which is the wrong approach. And this shows in the way they treat their customers in general, not only with pricing.

      Again, lots of this is personal analysis, but definitely, no, I would not say Sony has evolved in terms of having their customers’ interest at heart.

      • aerinas says:

        Customer service at apple??? You mean having to pay 20 bucks just to replace a piece of hardware with a new (overpriced) one? Don’t make me laugh.

        • wololo says:

          I’m not an Apple supporter and never owned any Apple product, but you can’t deny that they are lightyears ahead of Sony in terms of customer service.

          • Yes says:

            Doesnt this variate from country to country, depending on how good warranty laws are? Will for example Apple give you a free replacement if you damage your iPhone, and the warranty has expired?

          • gunblade says:

            think warranty good for two years by then think ill get a new phone apple been making new ones like every two years

      • Yes says:

        Now you’re talking about something else though :) First you mentioned the consumers’ security, giving example of the PSP stuff which indicates that their PSN login data could be at risk. Now you’re talking more about customer service.

        The Aibo case was just about that they didnt want people to hack it, as far as i know. It didnt have anything to do with the consumers’ security.

        The CD Rootkit stuff is a valid point, but this was however many years ago, so i dont know how relevant it is today on how the consumers’ security is handled. I also think it is worth mentioning that the CD rootkit stuff was done by Sony BMG. Sony concist of many seperate companies that might have nothing to do with eachother. Sony Computer Entertainment is a completely different company than Sony Pictures for example.

        How does the Vita Content Manager and Bluray security specifications jeopardize the security of their consumers? The Content Manager doesnt store any personal information as far as i know, and playing a Bluray doesnt require any registration of info at all.

        ————

        “Sony are stuck in the paradox of being a content owner (movies, music), a content distributor (PSN), and a high quality hardware manufacturer, all in the same company. They don’t know if they should have their customers pay for the service, the content, or the hardware. In doubt, they make us pay for all of them, which is the wrong approach. And this shows in the way they treat their customers in general, not only with pricing.”

        How do you mean? Why wouldnt they charge for the content that they offer? Business in general is about making sure that your expences are less than your income. If Sony has X-amount of expences to make their hardware, content and services, then they have to charge more than this to make sure that they dont lose money.

        • gunblade says:

          though i heard sum were that vita had sum kind of monitoring chip in it

        • wololo says:

          No, I was talking of the same subject. I don’t have specific examples about security, but how by default Sony treats their customers poorly. A company that goes so far into making the experience terrible for customers (e.g. the Content Manager) just for the security of their intellectual property doesn’t have their customers in mind. And that means all aspects of the customers, including the security.

          As far as the pricing discussion is concerned, my point was that a recent trend is to make the hardware very cheap as a nice entry point for customers to buy the services you offer (e.g. Amazon’s Kindle). Sony still tries to make you believe you are buying the hardware (by charging quite a lot for it and refusing to send a replacement unit when it’s broken), when in reality, they are giving you a way to access their content. They could almost make the console free is what I’m saying. Again, they are stuck, not knowing if they should drive you to buy more content, or try to sell more hardware, or…

          • Yes says:

            Sorry, i ment in regards to what i quoted you on (only about the security regarding the PSP example you gave). I’m not sure if there is much ground to say that Sony doesnt care about the consumers security if there is no examples of it.

            There are so much piracy going on in these days, so i think it is understandable that extra messures are taken to prevent it.

            Personally i dont think that the Content Manager have soured my Vita experience at all, and i’ve had the Vita since the european launch and used it nearly every day.

            It would be nice if it was possible to upload savegames to the cloud without having to go through a PC/Content Manager first though, but other than that i see no problem with it. You would need a PC (or PS3) anyway to copy music and video over to the Vita, so i dont see how installing a small program makes it a terrible experience for the consumers. Maybe if the consumer is running Linux only, then i can see it.

            But fair enough, i see your points on this =)

            ————-

            About Kindle, isnt that priced cheap because the device itself isnt very powerful and it is cheap to produce it?

            But what you describe here is actually what Sony has been doing for a long time. They have sold their systems with a loss, hoping to make the profit from accessories and games sales instead. It was said that Sony lost as much as $200 on each PS3 for example, so i would not say that Sony charges a lot for their hardware compared to what it cost to make them.

            Giving away system for free to everyone would not be possible, especially when we talk about these specs. I assume you mean that this should count for every console, not just from Sony, so i’ll talk about all of them in general:

            Lets say that the PS4, Xbox 720 about $350 to make. If they are going to give that away for free, to lets say 300 million people (of course there will be tons of people who want a system for free). That would cost 10.5 billion(!) dollars. I cant imagine how much content they would have to sell to make up for all of this loss.

            I wouldnt say that Sony is stuck at all. They hardly make any profit on their hardware as mentioned, so they try to get a low entry fee on the hardware, and hope to sell games and accessories and make money there. This is how they have always done it, and it will most likely be the same with PS4 :)

          • Yes says:

            Just to point out a calculating error earlier, it was about 105 billion dollars, not 10.5 :) It would simply not be possible economically to give away something like a PS4 or a Vita for free to incredible many people.

          • Yes says:

            And if we look at the Vita only, lets say that it cost $175 to produce it, and 80 million wants it (although i think that more people would want it if its free), then we are looking at an expence of about 14 billion dollars.

            Even if we cut the number in half to 40 million people, then it would be 7 billion dollars to give away, i dont think any company (especially not Sony concidering their current financial problems) would give away this much money without some kind of guarantee that all users would buy a lot of content. (sorry for all the posts, i just had to mention the example with Vita too :)).

      • Yes says:

        About the last part, in afterthought, i guess maybe you mean that you feel the prices are uneven (that the hardware is priced higher, but the services are priced cheaper)? If so, do you have any examples of this?

        • wololo says:

          No, I did mean that in the position they are, Sony could make the consoles free, and/or at least have the decency of sending a replacement unit for people who broke theirs. It costs them almost nothing to replace a unit once in a while, and that’s a customer they won’t lose to Microsoft.

          • Yes says:

            I understand. I dont think it is economical feasable to give away the console for free since we’re then talking about giving away billions of dollars, with no guarantee that every owner will buy tons of games and content.

            In this generation, the attach ratio for consoles are less than 10 games, or something around that. That means that every console owner bought less than 10 games in average.

            If a system is free, i guess there is a chance that the attach ratio could go up of course, but it would probably need to double or tripple i guess for it to be feasable to give away hardware that cost several of hundred dollars to make. I dont think any companies are willing to take such a huge gamble. Not even Kindle is free eventhough that it has less powerful hardware specs compared to for example an iPad or a Galaxy Tab.

            ————

            About replacing systems, i agree that this would be a nice thing to do. This is why i’m so happy that the warranty rules where i live are so great. I dont have to worry if my console breaks down, because i can get it fixed or replaced within 5 years.

            I’m not sure if Microsoft or Nintendo are any better however. Before the RROD stuff on Xbox 360 got huge, Microsoft did not offer free replacement systems. They did this later because the RROD stuff got such a big problem in general. It is uncertain what they will do with Xbox 720, if they will offer extended warranty on those.

      • Yes says:

        And nothing wrong that you mention the other things of course, i just ment that my initial question was about that Sony didnt do enough or cared enough to protect the users information in these days :)

      • aerinas says:

        Why was my comment removed?

  20. capcomlegend says:

    oh I forgot to say thank you wololo,thanks for your time and effort,I check your page 3x daily waiting for the next exploit and updated news from you,since early december youve been my homepage, keep up the good work,and expect a donation from me and plenty of others that have faith in your progress.

  21. Jared says:

    Everyone go to the XDA link in the second comment and request a PSVita forum, one will probably be made if it gets a ton of requests.

  22. Spite says:

    @capcomlegend

    You might be on to something, Consider SKFU and his donated dev kit. So,… “Save our money, Do like the mob!”

  23. keragamming says:

    wololo what year you created this site? the first time i came on this site was 2010.

    • wololo says:

      I setup the blog in 2008 (but I was quite active as a psp user on other websites since 2006) : http://wololo.net/2008/08/03/welcome-to-heck/
      We’re almost 5 years old, I’ll be sure to do some nice event with giveaways to celebrate in august :)

      • Shapeshifter says:

        Yeah I started reading ur blog since 2009 must say it has come a long way since then and I keep checking for updates on ur blog everyday
        Keep up the good work wololo and thanks for introducing me to home brew (on my psp) :)

      • cesa says:

        SE CRIASSE UM VIRUS PARA COPIAR APLICATIVO NO PS VITA TEM UM PAREDÃO DE CODIGOS DE SEGURANCA INPEDE EU COPIAR UM NOVO EXPLOITE

  24. Anonymous 22 says:

    and for example Waninkoko who was hacking Wii, (PS3) and is now developing android apps.

  25. musashiro says:

    i posted on the request-new-device-forum thread on xda… :)

  26. Seallux says:

    would love to see 2.5 update hack seriously… just got my vita fixed and was forced to update this =/ hope theres a team preparing for new hacks and finally unlocking the ps1 and vita full potential because sony doesn’t care about its system but only its money -_-;

  27. capcomlegend says:

    @ spite forgive my ignorance, but would I have to donate 400 euros towards the devs kit?

  28. RUSblagTOR says:

    when people will hack the firmware 2.5, I of course I did not ask about full hack but will come out even when an exploit for this request and in which game to put it let us send mail response so that Sony did not read and did not see his hole in a particular game! my mailbox RUSblagTOR@yandex.ru unsubscribe please!

  29. kk.xie says:

    return 4;
    LOL

  30. Shapeshifter says:

    I highly doubt android rooting and bootloader unlocking can be called “hacking” in the sense of the term I think ios jailbreaking is definitely hacking..
    Coz android is open source and is a form of Linux which is essentially a hackers os(not in a bad way mind u)
    iOS jailbreaking is actual hacking as its a locked down version of unix which has most of unix features removed(terminal etc) and is much more secure than android(no or only 2-3 “malware” has ever made it to the apple app store,on the other hand android has too much malware which means its easily exploitable)

    I’m not saying android is bad or anything but we need teams like greenpoison and iPhone dev team to hack the vita
    I’m rather sad at the way consoles are locked down these days and have switched back to gaming laptops and pcs
    My last consoles left with me are my psp 3004 3g and ps2 fat(dunno model but is one of the 1st)
    Am not going in for a newer console for this reason(until the vita gets hcked :D)
    Good luck guys if u do this Sony has a new vita customer in me :)

    • Demonbutter says:

      Android is definitely easier than some. But when it took almost 6 months and a bounty to unlock the bootloader on the phone I use and still not have permanent s-off it took some skill. We need people like that are devoted enough to stick to the device.

  31. Ariel says:

    for wololo : why not talk to greenpoison team to help you hack the vita ?
    or a fundraising to team that manages to hack the vita

    a good hacker if is not motivated has no interest in psv

    • Sony PSN says:

      the vita is to hard to hack , Sony to lose money on every PS Vita sold, but looking to turn profit within 3 years ,the full hack will be release in 2014-2-15

  32. keane says:

    Good article!

  33. Linkedot says:

    PS Vita OS is Unique… Sony announced before that they might bring that OS to tablets and smartphones… so with 3G integrated feature and the Assistant Content Manager…in my opinion the last approach is to concentrate on how to Root the PS Vita; XDA forums handle all kind of devices.
    PS VITA Needs a Thread in XDA

  34. Nani says:

    I think its better to get a nVidia Shield instead of Vita.

    It has got a Universal USB 2.0
    a HDMI cable slot
    a Micro SD slot
    Android OS support
    WiFi streaming games from PC.

    But the fate wrote a Vita on my head already and being from India I haven’t got an Exploit yet.

  35. mrmagic says:

    As an outsider I have a different view to why the PSP/Vita scene is so small.

    It’s scattered, everyone has a different agenda. You got the homebrew guys that won’t help at all with signed stuff. Then you have the custom firmware guys with their mass secrecy. It wasn’t until the ps3 wiki that things become more inviting, still its depressing that such a thing never existed years earlier for the psp… what were you guys doing?

    To put things into perspective, the scene I am from everyone is on the same page, you still have the mega-deluded-noob types and the dramas, but that is life. I’d say the biggest difference everything is provided to the public for free, no judgements attached. Never cut-paste friendly but info is there if you are searching for it.

    If you want to know a file format it is right there in front of you, no magical voodoo or butlicking required. If you need the latest details from a vendor software update, no problems everyone works together to post that information. If you get stuck and need help, NP ask on IRC/forums and you’ll get an answer. Lots of IDA scripts and general information. You have countless people working together like an oiled machine.

    This is why, for me, I find it hard to go from such a warm community into this harsh cold PSP/VITA scene. It’s like going from a growing society onto a hot desert path leading to a humid overgrown jungle. It’s not the 90’s with our green terminals anymore, the PSP/VITA leaders need to figure that out if they want many new people to join.

    Forcing people to start from zero as their initiation doesn’t work, people with skill have absolutely no incentive – they may as well stick hacking what you already enjoy.

  36. Runehasa says:

    Vita is dead or better put never alive in the first place. The games are garbage aside from Persona which is a remake. Honestly what reason is there to even hack this system anymore to play emulator games and PSP games? Just go on craigslist buy a psp 3000 for 40-50 bucks and you have the same thing.

    My suggestion is to either Sell it or put it on the shelf next to the Playstation Go Playstation Move and Playstation Eye as failed products.

  37. SmartGuy says:

    The Hackers you claim that only do Homebrew only do Homebrew because of it’s easy Exploit. Don’t be fooled by them bluffing about how they have honor and won’t try to hack the other parts of the handheld. The truth is they aren’t smart enough to hack the Vita. Sony wins this time, at least for now.

  38. capcomlegend says:

    sony is doing a maintenance now…i wonder what awaits…

  39. Yuu says:

    Always a pleasure to read your articles Wololo :). Thanks for sharing all that you have.

    I agree about the XDA forum, lets get this started :-).

  40. Aurizen says:

    I agree I think we do need fresh blood hackers. iphone and all those other devices are hacked and tweaked like clock work. iphone 5 has been hacked within months. whereas the vita still in the same position as it was in a year ago. we need a strong vita hacking community. XDA i agree with. but anyone think the reason behind the lack of hacking is in terms of legal reasons?

  41. plinkerfly says:

    We need coders!! Please help us with our PSP! I want to see the PSP and PS VITA running alternative OS.

    Isos are cool but we need to mature sooner or later. Imagine a PS Vita running Windows 8 RT, Ubuntu, Android Jellybean. PSP running Windows CE..

    Remember the time we got so excited with our PSP running Windows and Linux in DOSBOX?

    That is why we need to hack our PSP and PS VITA. If we cant put a alternative OS, Then we will run our emulators.

    Coders are staying away from the PSP scene only because they dont approve piracy. Not everything in the PSP scene is about piracy. We buy our games and want to play it anywhere. We buy our apps and want to run it anywhere too.

    I’m quite surprise that after the homebrews getting signed, nothing really fruitful ever turned up.

    We can run anything from XMB. Start from there. PSP go has bluetooth, can’t we make an app to run my gmate other than my ipod touch? I want to turn my PSP Go into a phone. Nobody even bothered to make a signed youtube, facebook or twitter app. Nobody bothered to make a more useful Web Browser app. Coders should see these opportunities other than just the piracy side.

  42. Spite says:

    @capcomlegend

    Well, Of Course I don’t.
    However the example of “End Users” supporting devs (either with donations like you say or like SKFU with Hardware) would align with Wololo and his “Making Money” statement.
    To sum up.

    Wololo states that only a company or other parties that look to make a financial gain will put forth the time and effort to unlock a device (Vita, 3DS..n)

    And you (@capcomlegend) are more than willing to donate and convince others to donate, So it seems to follow that the community should support the community.

    “Save our money, Do like the mob.”

    • wololo says:

      By the way, the amounts I am talking about are very different. In my experience, donations that were driven through the hacking community on sites like here would drive a few hundred bucks if the dev is lucky. When a company is involved, I am talking of a regular revenue stream of several thousands of dollars a month, for at least a year or two.

      Think of the manufacturing price of the True Blue dongle (about $5, probably less), and the price they sold it ($70). Now imagine that 0.1% of PS3 owners bought that device (I don’t have the real numbers), that’s 70’000 people, which is a very realistic number if you think of the traffic underground sites like ps3hax or psx-scene are getting.

      Yeah, somewhere in the chain, a group of people made about 5 million dollars with True Blue. Now of course, you’ll have to remove the cut from resellers, the price of developing the exploits in the first place (they probably paid a few thousand bucks for it) etc… but overall we’re still talking of millions of dollars here. So it’s not really the same world as a dev asking for donations :)

  43. w7y7a7t7t says:

    int getRandomNumber()
    {
    return 4;
    //chosen by fair dice roll.
    //guaranteed to be random
    }

    ^hahaha oh boy did i laugh at this.

    • svenn says:

      It did to, but I have to say that for most non-elite hackers this part was about the only thing understandable from the entire presentation. These guys where not the lets show-how-cool-we-are-youtube guys. But experts in security, math and statics.

      I fear Wololo is right, the hobby hacker is out far on the VITA, mainly cause Sony has allot more juice to protect, and compared what cpu juice they got now, they don’t have to save on security layers.

      I think that the ways of PSP-hacking is over, there is not going to be a easy way of getting a kernel hack and from there out be open and free to do whatever you want.

      And in a way Sony has made homebrew possible, using there dev kit. Its just to expensive and VITA customers are small, if even paying. Its the same way Android would have failed if it was closed source and locked to 1 type of mobile device.

      Apple can pull it of cause of there guts to marketing methods.

    • wololo says:

      This is from xkcd by the way. Highly recommended if you didn’t know it already

  44. gunblade says:

    haahah i was thinking in the old day u needed a hacked psp to hack a psp or atleast the battery n memory card wy not the same rule with the vita jus use a hacked ps3 heard it was tweak out wen the vita first came out that it was showing up as a phone or sumthing…

  45. Timberack says:

    I wish I could get my money back, Vita has a worse game collection than dreamcast.

  46. Speaking of the legal side, I had to appear as an expert witness for the Defence in a DS/Wii hacking trial late last year. What struck me was the inherent bias in Prosecution evidence concerning technical statements from Nintendo experts littered with (deliberate?) inconsistencies and inaccuracies. However, the problem is proving your legitimacy to comment; my own CV, expert witness statements and personal/professional life were raked over the coals just to get me to Court. If hackers would open themselves up (just a bit) to those researchers who are interested in the field – we do exist! – it might help them if/when they are threatened with legal action. As it was, my work prevented this person going to jail. That was a good day!

  47. johnny says:

    I think PS Vita is dead alright. And with the upcoming PS4, no way hackers are going to waste their time hacking a dead platform, when PS4 is new and has a bright future ahead.

    Wish we could just stop with these PSP emus for PS Vita. I mean they are nice but really? if you are a gamer and havent already bought a PSP (it’s out since 2004!!) then be aware that there’s a PSP emulator for PC too.

    This PSP emu for Vita has become the beating of a dead horse. Someone should make a meme btw.

  48. Private2Public says:

    I think we should try on hardware.

    Maybe an audio file with some special audio frequency can effect the hardware , show us some amazing.

    I’m so sorry with my poor English.

    • Private2Public says:

      You said “The Vita is made to play games, watch movies, and listen to MP3s”

      Why not do make a trick on movies files or MP3s?

      Also we can try on Background program switching?

  49. quidnunc says:

    I think the Vita community in general is worried it will hurt the games that get released on it. If it was doing fantastic in the market place then it would be less of a tradeoff for homebrew. Some games are selling decently despite the small user base which is making it a more inviting platform for developers but it depends on a high attach rate from a more hard core audience who would buy fewer games if there was an opportunity to pirate. I don’t know about you buy I’d rather have some new games than better emulators. Maybe someone out there wants to make a nice 3d game using the full Vita functionality but it’s still throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

  50. Haze7 says:

    I think the hackers would become more interested when the upcoming cross-play games come out.

  51. tysovsky says:

    You sound like a 14 years old boy.

  52. Chipokomon says:

    @NakedFaerie

    Where have you been baby i missed you!!!
    XOXOXOX

  53. Matt Damon says:

    Woah, cool story bro!

  54. misun says:

    Chill out bro!, his argument is sound.
    Disagree, provide your own sound reasoning!.

  55. pirate city says:

    NakedFaerie is a well-known *** and troll. Back in the PSP scene, he used to troll the forums about GEN-D3 not releasing faster and basically everyone hated him.

    Just ignore him. Everything he says is 100% BS.

  56. wololo says:

    @NakedFaerie you always come up as the same broken record. People won’t believe you until you start showing actual proof. If you use so many hidden identities, I’m sure you wont mind pointing people to your actual involvement in some major PS3 hack? In my experience, the truth about people’s involvement in hacks always surfaces, at least to well informed people. So show stuff instead of claiming all the time.

    As we’ve discussed before, if you were that good you wouldn’t ask constantly for more releases. The “good” hackers I know already have access to the hacks they need, either because they know people, or because they came up with the hacks in the first place. These people don’t beg for releases, what they discuss about is how/when they will do them.

  57. Mr. MaGoo says:

    Damn boss, u sure u got abused? The way your making it sound, It sounds like you got molested.

  58. gtfo says:

    rofl, this guy should be completly ignored wololo.

    he’s like a peasent version of math, just a complete idiot, can’t believe he’s still around saying the same old story.

    what a pathetic loser.

  59. DJGodmanDJ says:

    Hey!! stop flaming my buddy nakedfairy

  60. Mr. Shizzy says:

    Hahahaa. Speaking of bullshitting, trolls from the PSP days, here is another infamous idiot coming out of the wood work: DJGodman…

    What is it a full moon tonight? LMAO!!!

  61. gregdaleg says:

    and there are no good games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. DS_Marine says:

    So you bought Vita on day one to play full speed n64?
    A guy with a Violet suit and brown hat comes to mind…
    :D:D:D

  63. DS_Marine says:

    Haha good one SONY.
    Will you take a few request from your users while you are here? 😀

  64. Mr. MaGoo says:

    Yo, tell us how u really feel… lmao

  65. fivezeroniner says:

    NakedFaerie,

    seems like you made a bad history…
    you are quite famous for not proving yourself worthy.

  66. gunblade says:

    um i dont think it can well not till won make like a ps4 laptop anyway but thought battery life would be hard with a 86×64 cpu but ur lucky the ps4 will use the vita for remote play….

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