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Sony releases full PS4/Controller specs and details “PS EYE”

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  1. sean

    It looks pretty good – shame its just not good enough to buy day one. Looks like the 8gb of RAM was a good idea though, some games on the PS3 run pretty slowly and this should help. I guess the main point of this console is to be able to see most games developed in Full HD, which I think will be pretty incredible. Overall I look forward to it, am interested in how well PS EYE will work, just will be a while after release when I get it – probably christmas.

    also first haha

  2. Acid_Snake

    no CD support from what I can see, so no original PS1 games, only PSN bought ones, good job sony, you’re f*cking customers up yet again, I’m not buying this sh*t

    • aerinas

      Sony has promised that ps1, ps2 and ps3 games will be part of the gaikai game stream service, and many people hope it will be a netflix type of service (monthly fee, unlimited use). This is actually a better solution than making the device backward compatible with ps1 & ps2 discs, because that would mean having to build an emulator for those systems, while streaming is a lot simpler and will support nearly any game instantly. Now, let’s hope sony keeps its promise :).

      • wololo

        That’s where I get worried. Seeing “Sony” and “keeping their promise” in the same sentence…
        But if it happens, and is a “Netflix” like service, then count me in

        • yea good idea for most gamers, but people like myself who dont have internet at their homes are kinda sc*** if we want to play our older games that we have discs of :/

        • jlo138

          Another problem with that is they can simply remove any game at will. Just like Netflix does every month with movies. They remove titles that even many people like. I wanted to watch a show one day and suddenly it was gone. Hopefully they do this service but don’t remove titles that way. You go to complete a game and now its gone.

      • Acid_Snake

        I can understand it for the ps3, but making ps1 and ps2 emus on such a beast in the hands of sony’s is child’s play, not to mention that emulation = everyone can enjoy and streaming = 20% of users can enjoy (if you still don’t know, not everyone has super fast internet to stream HD quality videos at full speed)

        • Joel

          PS1 and PS2 games are not in HD though so I think it will not be a problem for most users.

          • PC4LYF

            Resolution is not the only defining quality here…

            I love playing BlazBlue or Soul Calibur multiplayer with 150ms+ ping… but as I am playing it, I can’t help but think to myself, wouldn’t this be even better with more delay, how can I make this even slower? What do Sony suggest I do? Seed torrents while I game? What I really need is a service where I can give delayed input to a delayed visual feedback… that’s instantly twice the delay! Then combine that with the fact I will be choking my internet connection attempting to stream the render, and I could be pushing 500ms ping minimum. Now that’s what I call 21st Century video gaming!

            Meanwhile, Android marches on with full PSX emulation capabilities… you’ll be able to play the full PSX/PS2 game library on your watch using your ripped ISOs and Sony will still be asking themselves why nobody is using GAYKAI.

        • Someone Else

          Good point. That sh** sucks. Give us a real emu, Sony.

      • Ry

        2 problems with this.

        1. Gaikai might be owned by Sony now, but it’s still a distribution model, which means new licensing fees which means only first party sony properties are guaranteed to be on it.

        2. They sell single games for download at the moment, why would they switch to a Netflix-like model when it makes them more money in the short term to make them individual sales. Sony is far from progressive when it comes to sale models.

    • Asdfjuma

      Since when has there been a single DVD/BD drive that can’t read a CD? I don’t think we should be worrying about that.

    • kupomogli

      If you want to still play your PSX, PS2, and PS3 games, here’s a simple solution. Keep your PS3 or PS2/PS3. :O! Or you can play your PSX and PS2 games upscaled on PC.

      I have a lot of PSX and PS2 games, 100+ for each console, and sure, I’d love to be able to play all these on my PS4 so I could sell off my phat PS3 and keep the Slim. But be honest with yourself. With as large as the PSX digital library is and the addition of the PS2 digital library, did you think Sony would just introduce backwards compatibility back into the console?

      Nintendo doesn’t have Gamecube backwards compatibility on the Wii U and look what happens afterwards. They announced Wind Waker HD. Selling ports and remakes of the same game that people love is a business model. Look how many times Nintendo has rereleased their Mario games on multiple platforms. Look at how many Final Fantasy ports and remakes have come out on multiple platforms.

      Why not take this a little bit further. PCs. I have many PC games that I can’t play because my current PC can’t play the format, and even if it could, it still wouldn’t be able to run. We’re forced to either emulate or repurchase the games from places like GOG. GOG is a great site, but where’s Syndicate Wars, where’s The Magic Candle, where’s Bloodstone, etc.

      If you get in contact with your internet provider to help you when your internet is down but it happens to be a problem on your end. If you get someone that actually does their job, they’re required to help you as long as you’re running one of the two latest versions of Windows OS’. Anything older than that and they’re required not to help you since it might be because the service doesn’t support the tech(which is a load of bs.)

      I could go on and on about this, but you get the idea.

      • kupomogli

        In addition, there’s one more thing I thought of.

        Remember Capcom, Sega, and others releasing stuff like Capcom Classics Collection, Sega Genesis Collection, Metal Slug Anthology, etc?

        When they realized they can charge people per game and make a lot more money, why should they come out with a budget release for $20-30? Sega ported a lot of their Genesis games to both consoles, costing about $5 each. SNK started releasing their titles seperately, costing from $8-15 each. Capcom has done the same with varying costs.

        They’re old games but they sell because people still want to play them. It’s to the benefit of these companies that you can’t play your previous gen titles or else they’d have to actually make new games.

    • Ronald

      Who gives a *** about backwards compatibility if you want ps1 go *** buy a ps1 and quit crying about something that meaningless.

      • wololo

        @Ronald: according to surveys backwards compatibility is *the* thing gamers/customers expect the most for every new generation of console… maybe you’re the one who’s not understanding the console market right?

        • gunblade

          well i think if i started a game on the ps3 it would be good to be able to play the same game n even finish it on the ps4 same like how it was with the psx game i had wen the ps2 came out

        • pirate city

          I’m having trouble fitting my UMDs into my Vita.

          Just kidding. lol

        • Anthony

          If that is seriously the most important “NEXT GEN” feature then people are idiots. First of all, If you’re asking about a Next-Gen feature, why is your biggest request a feature that is the antithesis of NEXT gen? Perhaps they answered with that out of an assumption that they already know the next consoles will have better gpu’s, cpu’s, ram, HD space, streamlined interface, online options, etc, and just wanted to try to let it be known that they would really like to play their ps3 or xbox 360 games on the new consoles as well? Otherwise, that is stupid.

    • DannyLongLegs

      I really dont understand why people want to play backwards compatable games. Especially when the games for the ps4 come out, they look frapping orsum.

  3. DoesntMatt

    @Acid_Snake: You dont need that, you can play games from old consoles using GAIKAI. Who needs cds?

    • Acid_Snake

      ok so let me see that again:
      – CD/DVD based emulation: play games you already own for no extra fee.
      – GAIKAI streaming: pay for games you already own, pay to use the streaming service, and pay for a very good quality internet that can stream HD videos. If the service goes offline, you can’t play the games you’ve paid for.
      Yeah, Daikai sounds fun (notice sarcasm).

      • Thrawn

        And again this gaikai service will not be available in all countries like the playstation mobile or their movie department. So most countries outside of japan and usa will either have to wait for that or it won’t be available at all.
        No cd means i can’t rip my music collection to this device directly, equals it has less use for me than my ps3!

        • Ronald

          Gaikai will most likely be worldwide seeing there website was running game demos for a while everywhere.

          • gunblade

            so is the new app for the vita (playstion home arcade prety much the cloud app or sumthing thout i was getthing the ps3 home game for the vita….

  4. compccs

    Specs look good to me but this time around it’s the keeping of the promises that will decide if I buy one or not. .. sick of the it will do this or that and it never happens … full remote play should of been at launch for the vita … I under stand the psp could only handle so much but now there should be no excuses. .. all I have to say is maybe I will be a little more guarded before laying down my money. ..

    • PC4LYF

      You can already remote play all PS3 titles with PSP on CFW.

      Any device with network + screen can VNC to any other device with network + screen provided they can run a piece of software that understands the VNC protocol. VNC is an open source technology, and not a complicated one under any circumstances. VNC exists on virtually all open/jailbroken environments at a cost of £0 to the consumer and manufacturer.

      How can you take yourself seriously, when you are waiting on bated breath as to whether or not Sony will allow you to pay more money to do something that every non-console device can do for free?

      If you had been guarded with your money in the first place, PS4 wouldn’t have turned out like this. But you, along with the majority of the world’s developed population, have shown year in year out you’ve got a multi-billion dollar industry’s worth of pocket money to spend on the latest version of Angry Birds. Its your bed, now lie in it.


      • gunblade

        vnc cool.. i watch twilight so now i dont sleep at night iam noctunal like blade the day walker…and now days is all credit n *** banks only think to make money with interest but then most need a bank to cash cheaks so make commers of theses days quite stupid agreed.. i was smart i got the old angry birds for half price…

      • Someone Else

        Assuming every homebrew fan is a pirate, then slamming them for it?


        At least make a funnier rap.

  5. quetz

    well i really think i’m going for pre-order 😛 it really amazes me

  6. jvhellraiser

    Im sorry the ps4 will be a nice console
    but what sony is doing to the Psvita change
    my mind and to tell you the true i no longer
    trust Sony and there promises. i pay $262 for my
    Psvita 35 for the memorystick and im playing Ps1
    and psp games instead of good Psvita games. i feel
    that PS4 could be the same as the Psvita. all console
    no games.

    • gunblade

      yea been a year n not to many good vita games think i got like five vita games and a few free psn vita downloads but i dont play any of them but wipeout barly play uncharted n gravity rush but then i been playing dust on the ps3

  7. playstation

    @jvhellraiser and @others who blame sony, PS4 is not just like PS Vita. PS4 has full third party support so you’ll have every game third party makes will be in PS4 along with the Sony First Party Studios which is close to 15. PS Vita did not have many PS vita games becoz of poor Third party support and the Launch of PS4 so Sony first party developers were busy making games for them. But, this vita can Play all the ps4 games in remote play along with Great comes coming from Sony first party studio when the PS4 is launched so their first party can cocentrate on Ps vita and unleasing its potential just like what tretton said in the meeting they will unlock full potential of PS vita later this year which is when PS4 is launched. Please be sensible when thinking about the Playstation becoz they are doing their best in three Consoles PS3, PS Vita and PS4 at the same time to get us many kinds of games instead of Focusing only RPG and FPS Games which takes away hours of life without proving any kind of Sweetness which the game journey could provide in 3 Hours. Games meant to be innovative expressing our dreams and achieve them which is not possible for most. So, try to be realistic and get on with the Sony who is leading.

    • Kyu

      Which means that,in order to enjoy your Vita, you will have to pay another 400+ on what you have payed already?

    • jvhellraiser

      expressing our dreams eh? ask me where’s my Psvita
      is at this moment? collecting dust in my drawer that’s
      what. i bought the Psvita to play New awesome Games
      and i only see crappy Psvita games,and minis/psp games
      now you tell me where is the new experience as i dont
      see it anywhere!

      • pirate city

        And what type of games do you want on the Vita? Some *** Halo-like game? Call of Duty? Battlefield?

        Go play that trash on another system. The real gamers don’t want that sh*t, or the fan base associated with those types of games ANYWHERE near the Vita.

        Thank god. Please leave. Do it quietly.

  8. playstation

    @all, PS3 backwards compatiblity is very hard to get it in PS4. If they do then the price will higher and people won’t buy it though they’ll make the price is sensible by making themselves loss just like before. Example:- Ps Vita which is giving so much horse power for the price of 250$ still people are not interested saying games are not there. This is what making the deveopers worried to make games for Vita becoz Users are not supporting them even though they try hard to create games they want to pirate it. Sony brought for those who can’t buy every game with a service of PS+ offering 65 Games a year for a price of just a single game. What else we need? They need to get profits so they can invest more in R&D games and get us most advanced technologies for them. Still everyone in the world just want those Mobile games by supporting a single Indie users but not supporting the hundreds of users making game in two years. I don’t ask you to purchase every game, plz don’t listen to the reviewers as they do their review based on their opinions not with yours. So, Plz support the developers

    • Kyu

      Very hard?Impossible I’d say without Sony implementing an instruction set somewhere in the hardware.

    • JeoWay

      I have the feeling this isn’t the actual PlayStation people. Plus, of there are a Blu Ray and a drive, then its only a matter of being able to create a supportable firmware that will be able to emulate the discs without givinf data errors.

    • azrayl

      Yea, I totally agree with you.
      This’ll be the first console I’m going to buy on day 1.

    • PC4LYF

      PS3 backwards compatibility. Too expensive? Too impractical? Then we don’t need another console right now. I’d like to see developers concentrate on making more games for PS3/Vita, and update the PS3 OFW with the features we want.

      PS2/PSX backwards compatibility. Too expensive? Too impractical? No. This is about controlling the used game market and re-licensing. This is about maintaining another capitalist industry that is too big to fail. This is about attracting more investors with more inflated figures than the last time.

      Developers don’t want to develop on the Vita, and you are blaming the consumers?! Are you stupid? Sony could be providing “one language to rule them all”, they are in complete control of the development environment of their devices. If the Sony development environment was anything like as good as Sony’s PR says it is, everyone would be developing games for PS3/Vita. Build compilers that target multiple devices/architectures of similar power with the same same code base, how difficult is this?! Having created a C++ PSP/Linux/Windows/Mac x86/x64 render and physics engine in my own free time, I can say with certainty that its not difficult for a company of Sony’s scale.

      So please stop supporting closed source developers.


      • pirate city

        Then don’t buy Sony consoles ever again. They’ve been making shi*ty decisions for years now. They’re not going to stop.

        They don’t really have to continue in the gaming scene.

        Just buy a Wii or a 360.

      • pirate city

        And for the record, I do want backwards compatibility. But I know Sony is too *** to do it (look at the Vita). So I’m not getting my hopes up. If it happens, then it’ll be a bonus.

  9. wartaf

    it depends on price and also, the Game…

  10. Uncharted lord22

    1st: No Because they didn’t explain what “ADOBE FLASH” they will be running on.
    2nd: I saw the price they was going to put $350-450.
    3rd: I’m still not sure if this will get hacked by y’all ppl anyway

    • Acid_Snake

      1- adobe flash is dead, every system right now uses html5
      2- if that’s the price then they’re going in the right direction
      3- I don’t think it’ll be hacked in a few years, if ever

  11. lol

    What are you guys talking about? what remote play BS? didnt they said STREAM PS4 games to PS Vita via Gaikai? no *** way im gonna buy a PS4 so i can play PS4 games on my Vita. There is simply no logical point in doing that, simply because i would simply play those games on PS4 and thats it.

    PS4 games will be streamed to PS Vita via Gaikai. And as they showed, you got to Gaikai library, pick a game, try it, like it and buy it aka stream it to PS Vita.

    • HIMFan

      …through the PS4. They explained that the PS4 would be the host and the Vita would be the client. And then they further explained they’d do that with your phone, tablet, or PC as well. How did you miss that entire 10 minute talk. You won’t just be able to buy it through the Vita. ***.

  12. Kyu