[Rumor] New details on PS4′s controller (and Sony’s new console might be revealed sooner than expected)

Most of us are anxious to know what Sony’s upcoming system will have to offer, and as close as we get to the reveal, new information comes out in the form of a rumor, some rumors more credible than others.

Today I want to talk about the new PS4′s controller system. Some time ago we received news that Sony had filed a patent to create biometric controllers that can measure some physical conditions such as heartbreak, and react by getting colder or warmer. Well now it seems this patent might be used after all.

As sources indicate, Sony’s new controller have undergone new changes, such as the above mentioned biometrics, as well as an LCD screen, probably resembling the Wii U, although I bet it’s not as big as the latter. And before you start your “they copied Nintendo!” comments, let me remind you that Nintendo wasn’t the first to put an LCD screen on a controller, so they haven’t done any innovation either:

It is also suggested that the controller will not be like the DualShocks we’re used to that have been in our lives for 16 years.
Personally I like the DualShock design, the only flaw in the DS3 are the oversensitive trigger buttons.

As for the PS4, Sony’s Vice President, Hiroshi Sakamoto, has hinted at a May reveal, quite sooner than everyone expects.

I’ll take this time to give my opinion on what features the PS4 should have:
- Full PS1 and PS2 compatibility from both PSN and disc.
- None of that anti used games crap.
- PS3 compatibility would be nice too, but if they are really using AMD for their CPU then this will be a big NO.
- Homebrew support in some form or another, although knowing Sony, they will screw big time like they did with otherOS and PSM.
- Not so expensive games. I will not buy the system if games are above the 40€ mark, but seeing how PS Vita games themselves are above this mark, I don’t expect Ps4 games to be cheap.
- A good browser would also be nice.

These are my thoughts, let me hear yours.

Source: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/387287/cvg-sources-sony-to-abandon-dualshock-design-for-ps4/

  1. musashiro’s avatar

    why big NO for ps3 compatibility on AMD? i just cant think of a reason..

    but i agree with you on the other things, specially the second one.

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    1. Tim’s avatar

      Because that’s another chipset structure.

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      1. Nobody’s avatar

        And the ps2 and psx are equal to ps3?

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        1. ZippyZig’s avatar

          PSX and PS2 used Sony’s own Graphic chipset. PS3 uses Nvidia and the Cell processor.

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          1. taiyaki04’s avatar

            he meant ps1+ps2 = ps3… i think…

        2. Acid_Snake’s avatar

          no, but the ps4 should be powerful enough for emulating them, the same can’t be said for PS3, unless it uses similar architecture

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    2. Aristotle’s avatar

      Don’t expect PS3 compatibility because the PSX and PS2 can be trivially emulated by hardware or software, the PS3 not so much.

      This is regarded as one of the reasons Nintendo have used basically the same architecture in the last three generations of console – to aid backward compatibility.

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      1. UE’s avatar

        That is crap, sony can but won’t emulate the ps3 engine on a next gen, don’t assume the difficulties of working on a emulator as a reverse engineer is the same as someone who fully understands and has what is essentially a map to how it works from a hardware level.

        I am not saying it wouldn’t take time and money, but it could be done and it certainly would benefit sony.

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        1. Acid_Snake’s avatar

          we would need at least 30Ghz on an intel or amd chip to emulate the ps3′s 3.2Ghz cell ship, not to mention the graphics card, so yeah, you’re the one talking crap

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        2. tom’s avatar

          no it cant be done, its like trying to run OSX Mountain lion on an AMD , different chipsets. In order to run it they would need alot of power to emulate it.

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          1. nyrol’s avatar

            I run Mountain Lion on AMD all day. AMD and Intel are very similar (both conform to x86-64 instruction sets) so there really is no differences. I have a $400 PC that runs Mountain Lion better than any iMac out there. Although, with the case of the PS4 being able to support the PS3, well they may just do the same thing that they did with the first gen PS3; include a whole other console in the case (PS3 had a PS2 in it). Anyway, you should check your facts before you post.

          2. edward sedward’s avatar

            mabbby they should stuff it being slim and release a moddle with all three different chips and all?

  2. Deagle275’s avatar

    No anti-used games crap. As you said Acid Snake , it needs that . I’m getting an xbox if sony does that.

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  3. Dmaskell92’s avatar

    The new Xbox is planning to have anti-used games aswell. Personally I think it’s a good move, if they drop the prices, and make a sell feature. GameStop makes a shit ton of money that DEVS should be getting…

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    1. Deagle275’s avatar

      I don’t want to buy used games . I want to bring a game to a friend’s house and play there .
      Imagine if my PS4 Bricks and i buy a new one .
      I just lost a butload of games .

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      1. Jd8531’s avatar

        I’d hope Sony would be smart enough to incorporate a transfer feature.

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        1. ???’s avatar

          You can’t have Sony and the word smart in the same sentence because, they will never be

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        2. JC3Fresh’s avatar

          they can tie your games to your psn account

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      2. Dmaskell92’s avatar

        Well I know this may sound weird but, why would you lug a game to a friends house? Why not just play online? I don’t play single player games in front of my friends. Also I’m sure PS4 will have some features to re-download a “lost” game you have purchased. I can’t tell you how many disk games, I have ruined. They don’t offer replacement disks because of scratches.

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        1. Ukdna’s avatar

          Personally I hate online, always seemed hollow (and sad – obviously just my opinion). The best times I ever had we’re playing co-op campaigns sharing some beer and chips and salsa. Everyone always comes to my house to play though, so not a big deal

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          1. DeadPixel99’s avatar

            You and e have the exact same opinion on video games my friend.

          2. A-noon-e-mouse’s avatar

            You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar, what you have described is honestly, the only way to play games socially. Leave the online shit to the pc master race anyway, since they’re the only ones who can do the sh*t right XD

        2. Aristotle’s avatar

          In Ancient Greece we don’t have the internet so single player is our only option.

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          1. the wizard’s avatar

            that made me lol

        3. Acid_Snake’s avatar

          you sir have no social life at all, enjoy your online, meanwhile, I’ll hang out with REAL friends xD

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      3. UE’s avatar

        the anti used gamne thing ties the game to your account permanently not your console you dit

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        1. Deagle275’s avatar

          The 3DS Anti Used Game doesn’t works like that.

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      4. UE’s avatar

        the anti used gamne thing ties the game to your account permanently not your console… I wish people had paid more attention to what the technology was.

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    2. IgnusArmagadan’s avatar

      What, you mean getting paid multiple times for the same damn product? I don’t get that logic at all. There is nothing else in the world that gets that, why should Video Games be any different? Used books, CDs, movies, clothes, vehicles, ect ect. If all those were done the same way, WAY less people would buy anything at all. It’s crap logic; “Hey, guys, someone bought a copy of our game for $60 and returned it three times, now we are even richer!!” Terrible games would get top sold games and the best games that no one returns would get the lowest…

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    3. hammer’s avatar

      you do realise that gamestop only makes $1 on every new game they sell right, and when they sell used games it actually helps the industry. Eg. I trade in used game and buy a new game = good for the industry, someone buys my used game and likes it = possible dlc sales and future sales witch also helps the industry.all this hate on gamestop for selling used games is absurd

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  4. Chacal’s avatar

    you dont need to buy physical copy anymore if this anti used does happen. just buy them from psn and done, but if the prices of the games are too expensive then i will see a big failure. but well it is still in the beta stage so nothing has been confirmed.

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    1. loketar’s avatar

      That’s fine for you to say just download off PSN my download speed maxes at 500kb/s so PSN is unaccessible for me.

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      1. alpmaster’s avatar

        Wow lucky you im using Metropcs download speed which
        Is 15 to 16 Kb a second :( i cant even access playstation store
        It says error occurred after 30. Min and gets to 89%
        Then does not finish? Tried 3 times already.

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        1. ReapersRage’s avatar

          Sounds like some high tech ‘Get 100 hours free AOL’ stuff to me :D I thought they banished Dial-up 6 years ago????

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    2. hammer’s avatar

      I learnt my lesson the hard way, never buy digital from sony.if they decide to ban you for using homebrew then you lose all the games that you purchased, the same thing would happen if sony goes bankrupt.

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  5. gunblade’s avatar

    yea hopeing the download wont be more then 50 gb but i wander on sony cloud game n steam how that would go save on local storage i would guess..storage solid state maybe think the xbox360 been getting it a bit…new controller sounds cool.. wander the range would be cool to play remote play like with the vita..

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    1. gunblade’s avatar

      hope the controller is lot more hardware then the vita n i would guess the price would be atleast 70 but guessing way more heard the wii u tablet was i bit much… hope they keep to the four controller but would be hard i would think but would have to see if the system can handle four controllers with touch screen gussing the 8 gb ram is a nice touch.. hope they ant to big n its still light and like getting the 64 as to the psone i hoping on lots of button

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      1. Aristotle’s avatar

        Get an education.

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      2. supervegeta’s avatar

        decode the above and win a prize

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        1. itreptau’s avatar

          decoded string from above: “YOLO”, what’s my prize?

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  6. Frank’s avatar

    Nintendo was not the first to make a controller with a screen into… Another example would be the PS Vita that was released before ! The Vita has all the power to be the PS3 controller but Sony don’t use it at full capacity. An example could be displaying the map on the Vita while playing to a game on the PS3. Or using augmented reality to shoot enemies with a snipper… Ps Vita with PS3 can all do that before the Wii U was out but Sony don’t use it… Only some crappy remote play on very little game titles.

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    1. Matsuro’s avatar

      That is a really poor argument, seeing as the Gamecube used the Gameboy Advance as a controller.

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      1. Noterantoeo’s avatar

        The gamecube did’t use the GBA as the controller, it used the gamecube controller. You needed the link cable to use the GBA.

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  7. soad26’s avatar

    hands down, there will be a back touch on the new ps4 controller. im betting my dick on this.

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    1. Dmaskell92’s avatar

      I’m getting my Vita soon, and I still don’t know if I’m going to enjoy the back touch panel. So I won’t be wishing for that feature yet…

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    2. hammer’s avatar

      the back touch is the worst feature on the vita, I would be suprised if they made the same mistake twice. So please don’t bet your dick on it

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  8. oO Flowzila Oo’s avatar

    Sony said that they’re gonna let Microsoft reveal their next-gen console first.

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  9. mangbhoy’s avatar

    Game library > hardware

    Just make the hardware for gamers damn it!

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    1. Aristotle’s avatar

      Money > game library > hardware > customers’ opinion

      No.

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  10. Eazon’s avatar

    I really don’t think sony will make it ps 1,2 or 3 compatible. they simple make less money that way.

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    1. Acid_Snake’s avatar

      no they don’t, PS1 games are hard to come by, same thing for some ps2 games, so they’d still make money by re-selling them on psn

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    2. hammer’s avatar

      selling games that have already been made doesn’t make them money? I fail to see your logic

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  11. Tonakai’s avatar

    Interesting post, Acid. I’m looking forward to seeing how the PS4 is upon release, although I’m not sold by it at all. Apparently they’re going to include many security features not dissimilar to the Vita and some newer ones. This of course means that the likelihood of actually running homebrew on it (since Sony probably won’t include the capability) is incredibly far off. Furthermore; the console itself is going to be ridiculously priced and considering how they keep removing Backwards Compatibility from their Consoles and their “Anti-secondhand games” crusade; I really don’t see this being included other than through PSN which forces you to buy your games yet again (good old Sony).

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  12. Kacex’s avatar

    You must mean heart rate unless theres some new dating sim that can measure when you get your “heartbreak”

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  13. Vitality’s avatar

    I hope playing PS3 games on PS4 will have some performances boost, like frame rates changing from 30 to 60 fps for example. Although I really doubt about this, but that’s what I really hope for. Of course, I would love to see every games for PS4 run in smooth 60fps, just like a PC with powerful rigs.

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    1. darksmile’s avatar

      PS3 can’t be emulated with software at the moment. It needs to much power.
      So if PS4 doesn’t use cell architecture+nvidia gpu(nvidia changed their cores but it is not big deal)it won’t be able to emulate PS3.
      PS2 emu probably already exist since they have “beta stage” emu in PS3 and they hired PS2 programmers few months ago

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  14. svenn’s avatar

    Ow your talking about that piece of hardware, that isn’t made to do anything besides gaming. I thought by now it would have been completely replaced by laptops. You really wane spend ~500 euro for a machine that only can play games, approved by Sony ?

    laptops :
    - keeps support for old games. (dosbox, wine,…)
    - has support for PS1/PS2/… games
    - homebrew, we have 99bottles of code languages available
    - we have IE9 ! (ow wait …)
    - Everyone needs this machine, so by default we have the biggest market.

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    1. VivaLaVita’s avatar

      I understand peoples point with this. But I still prefer game consoles over PC’s. I just do. Consoles give me a certain feeling that computers don’t. I like gaming consoles personally. But one day I want a gaming computer too. (or a bad ass graphics computer)

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      1. spehssmahreen’s avatar

        Connect controller to PC, connect to tv with an hdmi cable…………….

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      2. hammer’s avatar

        the real appeal of consoles is that everyone is on the same playing field hardware wise. With pc’s you need to spend a fortune to keep up with everybody else…for me at least

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    2. Acid_Snake’s avatar

      I understand if you talked about desktops, but laptops? the most powerful ones don’t even come close to what the ps3 can offer without overheating, plus they have a bigger failure rate, specially if you stress them out with new games

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    3. Deagle275’s avatar

      Well , on a console you don’t need to worry if your processor is potent enough to run the game .
      And the console has a default hardware , so everythin can be adapted to run smoother on it.

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  15. zorrodood’s avatar

    i doubt that games are ever going to be below 40$

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  16. StanSmith’s avatar

    I’m not sure what to do about the PS4. I think it will suck and I will boycott it for what they did to Geohot and others.

    BUT should you get the first model? It’ll be the one with everything then they will remove things for the next model and remove some more then release a slim version thats stripped then remove more features then when there is nothing left to strip out they find more to remove then release a superslim version.

    So if your going to get a PS4 get the first version. BUT, yea another but the first versions are usually unstable and overheat and crash then die. The first Xbox360′s did that and the first PS3s also did that. They were great consoles but died way to easy.

    And from what I’ve heard they are dropping the DualShock controller again and not bringing back shock. They tried to kill off shock with the PS3 but too many people complained so they put it back in.

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  17. fatman01923’s avatar

    I predict it is going to look like a Vita but a hybrid of it. The screen will be a 3 inch OLED, L1,L2,R1,R2,L3,R3 will be on it in some shape or form. When they added cross controller features for certain games, they were making us test out the their prototype controller for PS4. :D

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  18. VivaLaVita’s avatar

    “It is also suggested that the controller will not be like the DualShocks we’re used to that have been in our lives for 16 years.”

    That sounds like a stupid idea.

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  19. koSiukaS’s avatar

    Nintendo didn’t put a lcd screen on a controler. They used a tablet as a controler. NOW THAT IS A BIG DIFFERENCE, which means Nintendo just were too lazy and just connected a tablet to a console. PS3 has done that 7 years ago by allowing to use the PSP as a controler.

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    1. Acid_Snake’s avatar

      this is the same thing as “half-empty/half-full”, it really depends on how you see it. I see it as a controller with a screen hooked up, you see it as a tablet with a controller hooked up, but in the end, it’s the same thing

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      1. hammer’s avatar

        it is a controller with a lcd screen, all the processing power is in the wii u itself

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  20. Link’s avatar

    Sega Dreamcast will always be better than WII U, PS4, AND 720. Sega Dreamcast is the greatest Console ever created. It was like god himself made that Console with it’s awesome obscure Library.

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    1. Noterantoeo’s avatar

      Well, anything will be better than the PS4 if some of the rumors are correct :)

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  21. SmallNation’s avatar

    “…we received news that Sony had filed a patent to create biometric controllers that can measure some physical conditions such as >[heartbreak]<, and react by getting colder or warmer.

    That's one bada** controller if it can read my emotions. :D

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  22. alpmaster’s avatar

    All this talk makes me want to buy ps2 again

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  23. itfreedoe’s avatar

    I am glad they are using the APU’s.

    Believe me it would be ALOT WORSE if they used normal parts than an APU.

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  24. Electric Penis’s avatar

    Tbe PS4 will rock.
    The Xbox 720, however, will not be able to compete with the slime under my testicles.

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  25. alpmaster’s avatar

    I love playing the classic games i prefer to play the old
    Games V.S the new. I am waiting tilll the wiiu drops the
    Price. Until then i will keep playing my soft modded Wii.

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  26. bsanehi’s avatar

    I hope Sony uses the same cell broadband engine, and add’s 16 SPE, and so it will have PS3 compatibility.

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  27. Mutchako’s avatar

    The PS4 almost one hundred percent will not be able to run physical PS3 discs, but i think that SONY will do something to make money with PS3 games. If it’s impossible to emulate, so recompile or rebuild for a different platform. Linux, and even Windows, with a complex structure can run over different hardware, from ARM to RISC! They will find a way. Maybe some kind of virtual machine can be used too.

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    1. Obama’s avatar

      Obviously Sony will re-release PS3 games upscaled to 4K resolution, and they will re-release re-released PS2 games too. And you’ll pay for them. And the hacker community won’t be able to do a thing about it.

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      1. Acid_Snake’s avatar

        they will probably find a way to re-release ps4 games too xD

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  28. Edzo’s avatar

    “Nintendo wasn’t the first to put an LCD screen on a controller, so they haven’t done any innovation either” come on those arent even similar. anyways why would anyone care about anything besides wind waker hd right now? just seems foolish

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    1. Electric Penis’s avatar

      Wind Waker HD is a shameless cash-grab that morons like you buy.
      And it’s sad when Nintendo is so new to the current generation*, they actually think abusing the bloom effect to frightening levels in Wind Waker HD makes a game actually look next generation.

      * The Wii U is not a next generation console, not graphically or feature-wise. The Wii U is Nintendo FINALLY putting their own console out on the current generation market alongside the PS3 and 360.

      No, dipshit, the Wii wasn’t a part of this generation. It’s merely an expansion of the GameCube released in the generation of the PS2, Original Xbox and GameCube.

      Golly, you’re all fucking dumb.

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  29. suicidal_banana’s avatar

    I mostly want full backwards compatibility (got a bunch of ps2 and psx games i cant even play, thanks again sony) and they better not be pulling out another handheld, or if they do, at the very least, make it able to play Vita games too (and preferably include the UMD drive)

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  30. Uncharted lord22’s avatar

    I agree on all y’all gaming consoles are better and does the same thing as a Pc but we have to use homebrews run ALL EMULATORS on it. While pc’s don’t need to.

    And as for browsers I prefer the same flash that the Pc got with a GOOGLE CROME display because they faster.

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    1. xSpectrum’s avatar

      Google Chrome actually isn’t that fast compared to other browsers.

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