Sony files patent to block used games

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156 Responses

  1. NORATIO says:

    Car construction never a dime on secondhand cars??? Sony is playing a bad card. I will just start a ban “Sony” website to make sure no ones sell the ps4(like gamestop-ebgames).

    Where are the days when I was kid and I was bringing Contra at a friend’s house or Mortal Kombat and make them discover the game and finally buy it. Same thing with local videogame rental; i was buying games after playing with it. Downloadebled Demos are not the same and so many game just worth 10$ like Bust a Move..,

    Maybe Sony will sell games at lowet price? 20$ per games? Ill be in. Else go f yourself.

  2. n00neimp0rtant says:

    Hypothetically, if this were to happen, I imagine businesses that rely on used games for revenue (like GameStop) would give Sony the finger and refuse to sell any PS4 consoles, peripherals or games.

  3. Anhnghia says:

    Is Sony trying to force themselves out of the video game industry? This reminds me of Sega’s direction and how they are now a publishing company. In order for Sony to succeed in this new experimental endeavor, they will have to produce blockbuster hits every single month. With the PS3 and Vita however, they need to catch up. Good luck Sony.

  4. Kr0n1kK1ll3r™ says:

    If this happens then good bye to a lot of game stores. Netflix and Hulu killed the video stores, now Sony and MS want to kill the game shops.

  5. empc says:

    Hackers will get rid of this. i feel sorry for SONY , they are killing themselves . also with new nvidia portable console , razor gaming tab, steam box ,ouya , etc , i guess big gaming emnterprices such as SONY and nintendo are going to die .
    in the case of nintendo why the heck they created a “new console” which is not even more powerfull than 7 years old ps3?? what the heck were they thinking. its shame.
    sorry for my bad english

    • CJlopez says:

      Simply put, they could had gave you something worth technology this days, but along side the table like control, wich is what defines the WiiU and not it graphic power, it would had cost what PS3 first came around, $800.00 or more.

      Nintendo rarelly plays the “last-gen tech, most powerfull components” card, they now not everybody can afford it so they try to create for the mass, and not just a few

      Just like my father used to tell me a few years back, “develope games for the poor, there are greater number of them than the rich, that can afford to play a game with the last in the market of tech”

  6. enzospartan says:

    I’ve already committed to Xbox as my sole console moving forward. I really liked the Playstation brand until the last few years. Sony just hasn’t been delivering IMO. And the WiiU is a joke.

    • Kyu says:

      The vita is truly an awesome handheld tho.By the look of things,vita and 3ds will be my only “new” gen consoles lol

      ALL HAIL PC

  7. trecenters says:

    you have to have someone produce a game worth $60 first… *COUGH*VITA*COUGH*

  8. Charles says:

    I can’t sell my used games anymore.

  9. Sakuryu says:

    Utter BS, they would be commiting financial suicide from protesters alone. If they think this is a smart move there needs to be a coup up in SONY headquarters, it’s just a ridiculous notion. I usually buy used games because they’re cheaper and allow me to play the game to get to know it, and 9/10 if the game is good I’ll buy it maybe even a directer’s cut or w/e if I feel especially over the top about it such as with AC and persona 4 Golden. I got hooked with $10 copies of their originals, I would have never and still won’t pay $60+ for a game I know nothing about if I can’t return it or somehow reimburse myself or try it for a good amount of time first. I know there are demos but most of the time we have to be honest and admit they’re nothing like the real game. Cmon Sony don’t kill my favourite industry…. I’m a Console/handheld gamer for life, don’t screw us out!

  10. James Way says:

    With ouya and now nvidia’s shield handheld, both android based opensource gaming devices, sony, ms and nintendo better carefully assess what they are doing. I won’t be buying any next gen system if they do implement this as some of my 3-4 star games are used; i didn’t want to pay full price on a game that sounded interesting, but didn’t get that great a review. Personally i think ms is playing the field with this one, most comments on such restrictions on their part have been ambiguous. Sony on the other hand seems really intent on doing it. If anything when sony brings the ps4 out with this restriction, ms will be like our 720 doesn’t do it and everyone will by that instead.

  11. jdubz says:

    Stupid….not even because of the fact that i’m a gamestop manager, but because ppl like to bring games over to friends and families houses for enjoyment as well. They will never go through with this, nor will microsoft.

  12. pspnp says:

    I don’t know how else to ask this question but, who else makes money on an item they produced and sold that is resold on a private level? why would they expect those kind of royalties? sounds like the developers need more money from else where, not destroying a whole gaming ecosystem for a little more profit.

  13. yondailan says:

    sigh..what are they thinking..damn everybody will start ban sony

  14. Kyu says:

    One more reason to step in “dark” ways.I mean seriously,instead of trying to attract people,they do exactly the opposite.

  15. Patrick says:

    anyone else saw that UNO was #1 on psp games most purchased xD?

    • >_> says:

      Games with exploits are staying up longer so Sony can milk ‘em for all they’re worth. At this rate that will be their only source of income by year’s end.

  16. Tonakai says:

    Sony really are shooting themselves in the foot here. They are most certainly having financial issues, and they believe that forcing us to buy new games and re-selling our old games to us (PSX and PS2 Classics, anyone?) is the way to get more money?

    With regards to used games, I understand they do not get the money for the secondhand purchase however I find it disgusting that if you purchase a game that you do not enjoy; you’ll be forced to keep it and nobody else can get any enjoyment out of it. Furthermore, a change like this is most certainly going to get people more and more interested in piracy.

    I decided long ago that I would not be purchasing the PS4 or 720, and I stand by that. Games of this gen have been progressively getting more and more unenjoyable for me and I don’t see any reason to purchase the console especially with Sony’s idiotic ideas. I mean, they clearly haven’t learned from the Vita at all. Many people sold their consoles within a few weeks stating that the security, forcing you onto one PSN (providing you don’t have multiple memory cards) and other precautions they made just removed all the fun or the console wasn’t fun enough to actually put up with said issues. Clearly they want to make that mistake with the next gen.

  17. Brennen lee says:

    The buisness industry is going to heck, they will always find new way to charge more for their product. It just plain out sickening

  18. sprx says:

    This is just the first shot across the bow at Gamestop to force their hand at sharing profits. Either that or setting themselves up for patent trolling later

  19. Stiffeno says:

    If Sony DOES try and kill off the used game market, they better damn well cut the cost of brand new games by half price or they are gunna loose MASS customers FOR LIFE!

    Sony cant take away this much, and expect not to give anything in return.

    Used game market is here to stay Sony, so you better deal with it or close ur company!

  20. Stiffeno says:

    Also Sony nor any game dev company has the right to see a dime from used game sales, you cannot be paid twice for the same item…its downright illegal!

  21. Stiffeno says:

    One more thing I forgot to mention, what about theft? You kill off used $10 games, and suddenly you have hundreds of thousands of teens who now cannot afford to buy any/many games for their new console…so while many would never think of stealing, they may just leave ppl with no choice! Dont get me wrong im not supporting theft by any means, but you have tons of kids/teens who cant afford something, they are going to go out and get their game, by any means!

  22. burningflames says:

    hey community of gamers. how about starting a petition? against this *** -.-

  23. AyeGuy says:

    Ill stick to my N64, Snes, Nes, Ps1, Ps2, and Wii amd mabye swing by my local retailer and get the Wii U which is probably way better.

  24. Xephrey says:

    Enter Steam box.

    • Lorz says:

      Yeah…. Valve has been a pretty cool company, I can’t see them pulling any dirtbag moves like this, they always keep their prices within reason, and have alot to offer, they’ve also been working hard to bring some kickass gaming to the Linux platform……. Valve is a company deserving of our support… not one who thinks they are entitled to it like Sony.

  25. Soldier says:

    If Microsoft was smart, which they aren’t. They would do the opposite of Sony that way more people buy their System which means Microsoft would sell more Systems and make a larger profit overall.

    But I see Microsoft being idiotic and copying Sony instead of realizing that if they did the opposite of Sony they could take Sony out of the gaming world. It’s time for Sony to die guys. No company should be giving the middle finger to the people who support them.

  26. w7y7a7t7t says:

    this is crossing a line… right now new games are like $60 a pop, and i have a feeling the next gen game prices are gonna be even higher. it’s not like i never buy new games, however there are a lot of games i wouldn’t own if i had to pay full price. if anything, this won’t make me buy more games, it will just make me generally play video games less.

  27. E says:

    This is just greed. Pure and simple or maybe Sony WANTS America and all countries other than Japan to hate them. It is not like International markets brings in millions of dollars or anything {sarcasm}. One user above said they are shooting themselves in the foot and I am inclined to wholeheartedly agree to this point. Really, they are shooting themselves in the head. For quite some time Sony has slipped from the public gaming eye with their many “major” decisions (or lack thereof). They obviously do not have any economists working there. If they were to actually go through with this they would devastate many parts of an already struggling economy. Not to mention themselves as a company. In one fail swoop they would be taking our freedom as consumers, a major source of income from major companies, and a major chunk of their fan base. Many places sell used games. Many people (including myself) buy used games. Buying used games does not only allow one to finally have a game they have wanted for a more reasonable price but developers undoubtedly still see revenues due to other related criteria such as say word-of-mouth. Many times a friend would buy a used game and tell me about how awesome it was then I would go find it, whether new or used (new if it was just that awesome ) or buy it used and pre-order its sequel then tell more friends and go on forums and message boards talking about how amazing the game was praising Sony, Microsoft, or whoever brought it to us. Having used games offers so much more than just immediate revenue to a company which is what sony is failing to see. They will see when their Playstation stocks drop to next to nothing. My question is, where does this stop? Do they decide to make their DVDs and BluRay players block used movie discs as well? It will never end. The only way I could see them coming out on top after doing something like this is if the SIGNIFICANTLY reduced the price of their games, which I do not see happening, do u? i have faith, though that this patent attempt will be denied and fall by the wayside especially after the decision Congress made regarding Jailbreaking when Apple tried something similar, saying that it was a part of the Users freedom to enhance their device. Well, reselling our games, or purchasing resold games is a part of our freedoms as well Sony. I am tempted to start a campaign or petition. This does not sit well with me. Not at all. Funny thing is, I was going to save up my little bit of money (while in College still, mind you)and purchase the new PS4 but (and this is to Sony) if you guys actually do this you just lost a customer and probably MANY others (esp on this page). That is all. I apologize for my lengthy rant but it had to be said. I feel a tad bit better. Well guys, looks like Nintendo still reigns supreme. My hope in them is restored. Would not be surprised if we see a rise in their stock over the next few weeks lol

  28. Roslyn says:

    There’s probably no evidence to show that this move will increase profit. Rather, it will decrease it.

    Instead, these moves are a larger part of a growing assault on personal liberty and property rights and has little to do with just video games.

    They are demolishing the first sale doctrine. both legally. http://c4sif.org/2011/08/libraries-prepare-to-burn-foreign-books-courtesy-copyright-law/ and technically. The changes are always small. They have to be small, less you notice.

    Because intellectual property and real property rights are incompatible, one must die a little in order to make way for the other. What you buy and what is yours becomes less and less yours, and more and more someone else’s.

  29. Jonny says:

    This may not be entirely a bad thing, think about it, by eliminating the opportunity to be able to buy a game second hand there will be a massive increase in turnover. With a higher turnover they will be able to sell games at a much cheaper price.

  30. Johnny says:

    There is a freaking ad that doesn’t let me read a phrase of the news… It’s always like that. I’m using Safari btw…

  31. Whatever says:

    You guys do know that this isn’t just Sony right? Xbox, and Microsoft are considering the exact same thing. This is how the capitalist system works; these companies are after the highest possible profit, and know that it will take a massive upheaval to unseat them from where they are at the moment (the top). So you can bash Sony all you want, but Microsoft won’t be your savior because they will be doing it too. Whatever happens, you’ll eventually willingly spend your money; that’s how capitalism works.

  32. XDarkMario says:

    i dont want to live on this planet anymore…….

  33. nCadeRegal says:

    wow and damn, how can they do this. The only games i buy new are for vita , and the few preorders I do a year for ps3 and xbox arent many. I always buy used. Screw you sony and microsoft. I cant believe you are stooping to this level. unbelievable. Im at a loss for words… They are jealous of gamestop. my favorite store. Thats all.

  34. KingSaitek says:

    Haahahah *** when they do this they give me a really nice reason for dont buy this consoles… what they think that every can buy new games for 50 euro to play 4 days hahaha

  35. But they have no choice i rather stick with data games on the store and homebrew games and i dont need to spend a dime on anything. Just wait for a new game to come out dont but the cd and when i reach the ps store buy it

  36. MrNano says:

    I guess it’s back to PC gaming then.

    PS.
    Stores that resell games will probably go bankrupt after this. I feel sorry for them the most.

  37. DiGi says:

    It’s like a music artist suing a person for downloading there songs. Puts them in debt for life while they’re making millions anyway… Same concept. Everyone just want’s more money to spend.

    The only good thing that could come out of this is bringing more PC gamers. Why? Because used games was a HUGE part of consoles. They take that away, what point is there in consoles now other then usability? Only reason I’d buy a game for XBOX was to share it with my brothers when I was done. Can’t do that, why bother now?

  38. Someone Else says:

    Boycott the next-gen consoles.
    Don’t support Adolf.

  39. Nathan says:

    I honestly believe game specialty stores like Gamestop will boycott the consoles blocking used content for us. That is how they make a good chunk of their money, used items. Then they’ll file a lawsuit and sony can’t pay off anyone because they are not influential to any market other than the Blu-ray industry. Best Buy might boycott as well.

  40. SupahLeecha says:

    Sony is getting more and more greedy.
    Dear sony how is your ps vita sales? Goodluck to you then.
    We, users, never felt your generousity.
    If used games cannot be sold/bought from the market, then, can you please offer a money back guarantee? I just want to make sure I will satisfied for what I paid for.

  41. SonYIsTheBest says:

    even from day one stores mean nothing to me

  42. someoncool says:

    Personally, I hate this idea. 1/2 my games I buy used because the budget is not there to buy every game that comes out. Multi-player is tyed to the AAA tiles (black ops, Modern Warfare, etc) and I normaly buy those at full retail.

    I think Sony/Microsoft should go after places like gameripoff (gamestop) to make them pay a fee for selling used games and make them cut there margins down a little. Also put the the online codes for games on all of them like on the vita, they still will make money and when people buy them new, they can play online.

    I should be able to buy the single player game (for achivements/trophies) for a discounted price after someone else has played it, just like you can buy used DVDs/Blu-rays for 1/2 the price for used ones. Or music CDs…

    If they want to stop this totaly, then just drop all new PS4 and 720(xbox ?) games to $30 each. I would not feel the need to shop for a deal on a game.

  43. gunblade says:

    cheaper games would be nice if there like computer games i can see why used games would be issues gamestop dosent let u return pc games once opean most store do the same…

  44. logitek says:

    I hate hearing people say Sony or Microsoft are greedy ( of course they are). If you think they are then stop feeding them. They don’t force you to buy their product. As a consumer we hold all the cards, but we choose not to use it. People are so use to be f**ked in the a** what’s another inch :) The worst is they will come for more. With that said can you really blame Sony :)

  45. Potato face says:

    I sense a new wave of piracy coming about.

  46. XPGXatoku says:

    couldnt this be avoided with a dvddrive fw hack anyway?

  47. lovinit says:

    PEOPLE DONT BUY…you guys seem like robots.

  48. Anders says:

    Sounds good to me I always buy my games used especially since they introduced online pass I mean used game = $55 used $60 new Used 55 + 10 online pass say what you just paid for a new game :O impossible you saved nothing but a dollar or pennies on tax

  49. Jereme says:

    if they allow this patent to go through it’ll effect gamers even more, you would not be able to bring you game over to your buddies house to play. you would need to bring your system over just to play with your friends

  50. #18 says:

    It was bad since they killed of the DC. Honestly, not much has changed.

  51. gunblade says:

    think the sytem alright fo reasle not sure but guess the games are microsoft n sony wander wy no nintendo… wander the disk format hd blueray hoping 100gig more sote type…push the 4k…..

  52. E says:

    Some very good points here. Selling things you purchase is a basic right and exercise of your freedoms as a human being in a capitalist society. However, in regards to the replacing the device point, I assume since the tags will be attached to your account, your new device will read it as being used by you assuming your new device is also connected to your account.

  53. E says:

    Kind of like with the Vita. the only difference being with Vita games you can reset all of the information on the game cartridge rather than the device completely blocking it after use.

  54. HaHussle says:

    I agree Ten Thousand percent

  55. SupahLeecha says:

    Agreed!

  56. Lorz says:

    Excuse me, Sony charges huge licensing fees to game devs to allow them to put games out on their stinking systems in the first place, most game devs aren’t seeing profits for that reason alone, it’s impossible for a small developer to get a game out on sony or microsofts platforms for these reasons…… you say game devs are calling for this, sorry, but that’s your thinking, i have not seen a single instance of that, game developers are being fleeced by sony and microsoft for license fees, SONY is angry because the used game industy is “interuppting” their collecting of licensing fees and so are taking it uopn themselves to do this, NO GAME DEVS asked for this, it’s Sony, If you cannot follow a simple pattern of events in which Sony has constantly pulled dirtbag moves like this, then there is no hope for you…. Sony keeps saying “it’s for the game developers”…. well I CALL ***, it’s to line Sonys own pockets!.

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