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Usermode Vita Loader, devs needed!

freddy_156

Italian, developer for fun, Android & GNU/Linux user, Microsoft hates me.

208 Responses

  1. Old wise man says:

    Im still on 1.61

  2. Bob says:

    Keep it up and I may buy a Vita. Sony’s definitely not doing anything to entice me 🙂

  3. Asmith906 says:

    won’t this destroy what little interest devs had in making games for the system? I like vhbl because it doesnt lead to piracy on the scale that the psp was.

    • wololo says:

      This is very early work and has no intent at enabling piracy. Let’s see how it unravels before reaching any hasty conlusions

      • Rowan says:

        @wololo well atleast it will hopefully enable a decent nintendo 64 emulator that can play banjo kazooie or some other game that never ran on the psp version of dedalusx64 emulator, maybe other emulators as well like gameboy or sega, maybe even sega dream cast (a guy can hope cant he?

        • Clad says:

          To do that they would have to rewrite the entire emulator from scratch. Including removing the ME sound module which gets most of the speed that you are referring to.

      • Anonymous says:

        Whether it’s intended to enable piracy or not, they need to accept that it will. And if they’re going to freak out and pull everything like some people I’ve seen in the past *cough* Nightwolf *cough* then I’d rather they did it now than later and just let someone else take over.

        That said, it’s also a fallacy to just assume with so little basis that enabling piracy would somehow destroy the console. Sony has pushed the Vita out and replaced the PSP with it. Did piracy destroy the PSP? If anyone say yes I’m going to have quite the laugh at their expense given that the system STILL exists in some stores and there’s still the rare few releases for it now, seven years after it was first released worldwide.

        If people are judging its lower popularity to be due to piracy, they’ve fallen into the trap that the likes of the MAFIAA have been trying to trick people into for ages now: they’ve assumed that anything that reduces sales in any way whatsoever must be ultimately due to piracy. This just simply isn’t true! Remember, the PSP was competing with the likes of the DS which has a very different style of games for the most part and, not coincidentally, has appealed to a more generic (and larger) audience. That didn’t make the PSP bad or even as lacking for games as one might assume, just less popular with the general populace (who consist mostly of people who aren’t really gamers — they just want to play something for a few minutes here and there — and kids who don’t play anything serious either.)

        No, I suspect enabling piracy really won’t make things any different. The Vita still competes with other things such as the 3DS and sadly these days even smartphones and still has a tendency towards more serious games that might be less popular in total sales (but better to those of us who don’t prefer casual games.) Besides, the 3DS will probably be hacked someday as well (and my personal opinion in the long run we’ll be using software rather than hardware methods there just as with Sony’s hardware as the 3DS is a lot more like a PSP/Vita/etc than a DS in methods and functionality.)

        In fact, I’m not convinced most of the real devs really worry nearly so much about it as people assume. Companies like Sony do obsess over DRM and such, but to some extent I think anti-piracy is more just a convenient excuse — what they really want isn’t the supposed sales that evidence does not conclusively prove or even necessarily support claims that they have have actually been lost. They want control. Absolute control over exactly what you can do with the content they have the rights to, where you can load it, how often you can use it without paying more, and so on. Piracy is more the convenient scapegoat than anything truly holding anyone back and even without it they’d just find something else to blame.

  4. Jonathan says:

    Awesome work guys!
    So far I have used my vita as a Mobile TV and thats about it LOL. I never really was interested in the VHBL scene since I already got old darth vader slim. I literally use it as a SNES-in-your-hand.

    Cant wait to play OoT:MQ and Code Veronica X on this baby!

  5. gagdet says:

    “This is very early work and has no intent at enabling piracy. Let’s see how it unravels before reaching any hasty conlusions”

    LOL, poor juvenile denial liar.

  6. Walter says:

    Here’s to hoping this will lead to emulators and homebrew, without piracy. We’ll get the best of both worlds that way.

  7. Game store owner says:

    This will lead to piracy, and it will affect the sales of the console and games. Before you release this please think of the struggling games industry, and the thousands of people it employs who are all in fear of their jobs in these harsh times.

    • wololo says:

      ew, can we stop one minute with the gross cliches here?

      1. Nobody’s talking of a release, the thing does not even compile yet, we’re talking of months of development before anything happens.

      2. Even if that loader is finalized AND released (that’s 2 “if”), who tells you it will lead to piracy? Do you have a single clue how security is done on the vita?

      3. The video games industry has never been so healthy, do you have numbers to confirm your arrogant affirmation that it is “struggling”?

      4. Video game developers have a tough job, mostly because every kid who knows how to program wants to become a game developer. This is why they are underpaid for their jobs. If they are afraid of losing their job, they can move to other types of industries where developers are needed, and where they will make more money. I am tired of people in the entertainment industry who believe that doing a job in a field that you love is a right. More people struggle much more than them every day and it is sickening to talk to people who can’t think for a minute that they could be doing another job if they’re not happy with their work conditions working on video games.

      5. The end of a platform does not mean the end of the video game industry, otherwise it would have died years ago.

      6. Based on your user name, I assume you own a video game store. Are you sure it’s not the shift to digital content that is making you fear for your job? What share of your market/revenue/benefit does the Vita represent? Is it even significant for your business?

      Seriously, I’m open to discussion with people who have good arguments, not ones that are trying to make me cry a river.

    • gunblade says:

      well buy next year we should have the ps3 tree fully hacked den since the ps4 is coming out n it wont be much market to sony nowing people will get in to the new ps4 sytem. n sony should stop working on update fo the psp n ps3 since dea psp has a secound gen for it n da ps4 is coming out soon..

  8. nwert says:

    omg, if everyone who is whining here would have actually looked at how an operating system works, you would know that usermode is usually restricted, and I don’t think sony is that stupid and is going to export syscalls to mess with any encrypted content/binaries to usermode code.. From what I can tell when I was reversing the ps3’s lv2 kernel, it’s going to be interesting to find a kernel exploit in the vita’s kernel *if* they secured it the same way as they did with lv2, but that remains to be seen.

    • No1 says:

      Just wondering, how do you mean with “it’s going to be interesting to find a kernel exploit in the vita’s kernel *if* they secured it the same way as they did with lv2”?

      Do you mean that if the Vita is secured in the same way as the PS3, that it will be easy (or at least very possible) to find a kernel exploit in the Vita?

    • gunblade says:

      yea da vita mothoer borad also is interseting even wit not nowing wat the port buy the game port is for n hearing of spy tech n *** does seem hard to crack the vita tought it seemd like the vita has sum extra internal memory did not find out how much yet but ill have to get me an extra system before i start trying hard wea modes but hope this exploit will help atleast add a usb hard drive or sumthing like fo the psp or even let me use like a phone camera *** a camera fo the vita

  9. 7 says:

    Very good read, I too would like to hear what this “game.store owner” has to say 🙂

  10. Norml says:

    I sure hope it does not show up in that error log…

  11. jp says:

    hope it doesnt lead to piracy

  12. Jonathan says:

    WOW! So much HATE! These people just dont understand, If it wasn’t for this “Game industry” that put so much restrictions on who can develop on their device or what they can develop or how much of the CPU they have access to, we wouldn’t be trying so hard to hack it!

    I mean, I cant even have a CALCULATOR or ALARM CLOCK on my ps vita! I remember hearing rumors that the android market would be on the ps vita, Oh how I wish that was true!

    Sony cant even make good games or apps ON THERE OWN DEVICE! The camera app is ***, the video camera app is ***, the video playback app is major ***. For games, All they release is garbage opening titles and hundreds of minis (aka “flash games” on the pc) and since then there has only been ONE or TWO good games.

    I will give props to sony for one thing, and that is the only company making a portable game device with MODERN hardware and ACTUAL physical buttons. But since all they care about is money and control.

    Sony is afraid of anything innovative if it doesn’t make them, and only them, money. They have dictatorial control over developers and they completely don’t support Adobe Flash. You know what, I hope this leads to piracy, just to **** with sony for there lack of interest in actual game development and solely on “security” and money.

  13. Walter says:

    Thankfully, the Vita has nothing to pirate.

    • Rowan says:

      +1 to you there buddy, all i would do with a hacked vita is run emulators for old games with physical buttons (unlike android and iPhone) not touch screen buttons (i hate touch screens, yes i no the vita has a touch screen)

      • Walter says:

        I’d use it like how I would’ve used the OpenPandora had they not run into an unbelievable amount of problems while manufacturing it.

  14. Vitaaaaaa says:

    is it possable to run just the update file
    from the psp to psvita say, psm sdk?
    because that be nice makeing psp like” menu useing
    psp’s boot key to start the enter file then
    booting that to run the psp, like basicly dosbox
    or windows emulator.

  15. Rowan says:

    someone should figure out a way to put stuff on the vita normally not with that stupid content manager

  16. DS_Marine says:

    Sry for the noob question (I got my psv hours ago).
    But what’s the difference between using this loader, or just using sony PSM SDK (open beta)to code your apps?

    • gunblade says:

      well think dat the loder works of exploit from games n runiing sum psmsdk app might be easier nowing dat the apps dat did come wit the vita proboly did get much of updats wit patchs since they techinly aint the acutul os but the conten manger fo the vita to copy from the pc dosent reconis dies apps saying if u was to use a dev sdk app u would have to have it to easily modify does apps to load in to vita system mode noticing dat conten manger help u assec file only in da picher video n save games n ps vita n psp games so i guesing ull have to proboly go after da near or the remote player apps

      • gunblade says:

        also i geussing dat wen dea is a relase fo user mode dat we should have also work on sony snifing ***

      • That Guy says:

        PLEASE! learn to at least spell properly.. I just read your comment and had a hard time getting some of the words and for the people that are not fluent in english, it would be impossible for them. So please use spell check.

        P.S. i am not dogging on you, just asking as a fellow forum user.

  17. 7 says:

    I think Sony is taking extra precaution on the alarm, calculator ect. Apps even the simple ones to make sure their is no critical bugs to allow these hacks

  18. dune dune says:

    yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees . Finally we got a Hero who can hack PSV
    So Keep going do ur best .

  19. Dynomite says:

    yifanlu is awesome. He’s the one who created the conversion tool for putting PSX iso into Xperia Play so people don’t have to rebuy overpriced PSX games for the phone. Look forward to his results 🙂

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