Usermode Vita Loader, devs needed!

freddy_156

Italian, developer for fun, Android & GNU/Linux user, Microsoft hates me.

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204 Responses

  1. Bob says:

    Keep it up and I may buy a Vita. Sony’s definitely not doing anything to entice me :)

  2. Asmith906 says:

    won’t this destroy what little interest devs had in making games for the system? I like vhbl because it doesnt lead to piracy on the scale that the psp was.

    • wololo says:

      This is very early work and has no intent at enabling piracy. Let’s see how it unravels before reaching any hasty conlusions

      • Rowan says:

        @wololo well atleast it will hopefully enable a decent nintendo 64 emulator that can play banjo kazooie or some other game that never ran on the psp version of dedalusx64 emulator, maybe other emulators as well like gameboy or sega, maybe even sega dream cast (a guy can hope cant he?

        • Clad says:

          To do that they would have to rewrite the entire emulator from scratch. Including removing the ME sound module which gets most of the speed that you are referring to.

      • Anonymous says:

        Whether it’s intended to enable piracy or not, they need to accept that it will. And if they’re going to freak out and pull everything like some people I’ve seen in the past *cough* Nightwolf *cough* then I’d rather they did it now than later and just let someone else take over.

        That said, it’s also a fallacy to just assume with so little basis that enabling piracy would somehow destroy the console. Sony has pushed the Vita out and replaced the PSP with it. Did piracy destroy the PSP? If anyone say yes I’m going to have quite the laugh at their expense given that the system STILL exists in some stores and there’s still the rare few releases for it now, seven years after it was first released worldwide.

        If people are judging its lower popularity to be due to piracy, they’ve fallen into the trap that the likes of the MAFIAA have been trying to trick people into for ages now: they’ve assumed that anything that reduces sales in any way whatsoever must be ultimately due to piracy. This just simply isn’t true! Remember, the PSP was competing with the likes of the DS which has a very different style of games for the most part and, not coincidentally, has appealed to a more generic (and larger) audience. That didn’t make the PSP bad or even as lacking for games as one might assume, just less popular with the general populace (who consist mostly of people who aren’t really gamers — they just want to play something for a few minutes here and there — and kids who don’t play anything serious either.)

        No, I suspect enabling piracy really won’t make things any different. The Vita still competes with other things such as the 3DS and sadly these days even smartphones and still has a tendency towards more serious games that might be less popular in total sales (but better to those of us who don’t prefer casual games.) Besides, the 3DS will probably be hacked someday as well (and my personal opinion in the long run we’ll be using software rather than hardware methods there just as with Sony’s hardware as the 3DS is a lot more like a PSP/Vita/etc than a DS in methods and functionality.)

        In fact, I’m not convinced most of the real devs really worry nearly so much about it as people assume. Companies like Sony do obsess over DRM and such, but to some extent I think anti-piracy is more just a convenient excuse — what they really want isn’t the supposed sales that evidence does not conclusively prove or even necessarily support claims that they have have actually been lost. They want control. Absolute control over exactly what you can do with the content they have the rights to, where you can load it, how often you can use it without paying more, and so on. Piracy is more the convenient scapegoat than anything truly holding anyone back and even without it they’d just find something else to blame.

  3. Jonathan says:

    Awesome work guys!
    So far I have used my vita as a Mobile TV and thats about it LOL. I never really was interested in the VHBL scene since I already got old darth vader slim. I literally use it as a SNES-in-your-hand.

    Cant wait to play OoT:MQ and Code Veronica X on this baby!

  4. gagdet says:

    “This is very early work and has no intent at enabling piracy. Let’s see how it unravels before reaching any hasty conlusions”

    LOL, poor juvenile denial liar.

  5. Walter says:

    Here’s to hoping this will lead to emulators and homebrew, without piracy. We’ll get the best of both worlds that way.

  6. Game store owner says:

    This will lead to piracy, and it will affect the sales of the console and games. Before you release this please think of the struggling games industry, and the thousands of people it employs who are all in fear of their jobs in these harsh times.

    • wololo says:

      ew, can we stop one minute with the gross cliches here?

      1. Nobody’s talking of a release, the thing does not even compile yet, we’re talking of months of development before anything happens.

      2. Even if that loader is finalized AND released (that’s 2 “if”), who tells you it will lead to piracy? Do you have a single clue how security is done on the vita?

      3. The video games industry has never been so healthy, do you have numbers to confirm your arrogant affirmation that it is “struggling”?

      4. Video game developers have a tough job, mostly because every kid who knows how to program wants to become a game developer. This is why they are underpaid for their jobs. If they are afraid of losing their job, they can move to other types of industries where developers are needed, and where they will make more money. I am tired of people in the entertainment industry who believe that doing a job in a field that you love is a right. More people struggle much more than them every day and it is sickening to talk to people who can’t think for a minute that they could be doing another job if they’re not happy with their work conditions working on video games.

      5. The end of a platform does not mean the end of the video game industry, otherwise it would have died years ago.

      6. Based on your user name, I assume you own a video game store. Are you sure it’s not the shift to digital content that is making you fear for your job? What share of your market/revenue/benefit does the Vita represent? Is it even significant for your business?

      Seriously, I’m open to discussion with people who have good arguments, not ones that are trying to make me cry a river.

    • gunblade says:

      well buy next year we should have the ps3 tree fully hacked den since the ps4 is coming out n it wont be much market to sony nowing people will get in to the new ps4 sytem. n sony should stop working on update fo the psp n ps3 since dea psp has a secound gen for it n da ps4 is coming out soon..

  7. nwert says:

    omg, if everyone who is whining here would have actually looked at how an operating system works, you would know that usermode is usually restricted, and I don’t think sony is that stupid and is going to export syscalls to mess with any encrypted content/binaries to usermode code.. From what I can tell when I was reversing the ps3’s lv2 kernel, it’s going to be interesting to find a kernel exploit in the vita’s kernel *if* they secured it the same way as they did with lv2, but that remains to be seen.

    • No1 says:

      Just wondering, how do you mean with “it’s going to be interesting to find a kernel exploit in the vita’s kernel *if* they secured it the same way as they did with lv2”?

      Do you mean that if the Vita is secured in the same way as the PS3, that it will be easy (or at least very possible) to find a kernel exploit in the Vita?

  8. 7 says:

    Very good read, I too would like to hear what this “game.store owner” has to say :)

  9. Norml says:

    I sure hope it does not show up in that error log…

  10. jp says:

    hope it doesnt lead to piracy

  11. Jonathan says:

    WOW! So much HATE! These people just dont understand, If it wasn’t for this “Game industry” that put so much restrictions on who can develop on their device or what they can develop or how much of the CPU they have access to, we wouldn’t be trying so hard to hack it!

    I mean, I cant even have a CALCULATOR or ALARM CLOCK on my ps vita! I remember hearing rumors that the android market would be on the ps vita, Oh how I wish that was true!

    Sony cant even make good games or apps ON THERE OWN DEVICE! The camera app is ***, the video camera app is ***, the video playback app is major ***. For games, All they release is garbage opening titles and hundreds of minis (aka “flash games” on the pc) and since then there has only been ONE or TWO good games.

    I will give props to sony for one thing, and that is the only company making a portable game device with MODERN hardware and ACTUAL physical buttons. But since all they care about is money and control.

    Sony is afraid of anything innovative if it doesn’t make them, and only them, money. They have dictatorial control over developers and they completely don’t support Adobe Flash. You know what, I hope this leads to piracy, just to **** with sony for there lack of interest in actual game development and solely on “security” and money.

  12. Walter says:

    Thankfully, the Vita has nothing to pirate.

    • Rowan says:

      +1 to you there buddy, all i would do with a hacked vita is run emulators for old games with physical buttons (unlike android and iPhone) not touch screen buttons (i hate touch screens, yes i no the vita has a touch screen)

      • Walter says:

        I’d use it like how I would’ve used the OpenPandora had they not run into an unbelievable amount of problems while manufacturing it.

  13. Vitaaaaaa says:

    is it possable to run just the update file
    from the psp to psvita say, psm sdk?
    because that be nice makeing psp like” menu useing
    psp’s boot key to start the enter file then
    booting that to run the psp, like basicly dosbox
    or windows emulator.

  14. Rowan says:

    someone should figure out a way to put stuff on the vita normally not with that stupid content manager

  15. DS_Marine says:

    Sry for the noob question (I got my psv hours ago).
    But what’s the difference between using this loader, or just using sony PSM SDK (open beta)to code your apps?

    • gunblade says:

      well think dat the loder works of exploit from games n runiing sum psmsdk app might be easier nowing dat the apps dat did come wit the vita proboly did get much of updats wit patchs since they techinly aint the acutul os but the conten manger fo the vita to copy from the pc dosent reconis dies apps saying if u was to use a dev sdk app u would have to have it to easily modify does apps to load in to vita system mode noticing dat conten manger help u assec file only in da picher video n save games n ps vita n psp games so i guesing ull have to proboly go after da near or the remote player apps

      • That Guy says:

        PLEASE! learn to at least spell properly.. I just read your comment and had a hard time getting some of the words and for the people that are not fluent in english, it would be impossible for them. So please use spell check.

        P.S. i am not dogging on you, just asking as a fellow forum user.

  16. 7 says:

    I think Sony is taking extra precaution on the alarm, calculator ect. Apps even the simple ones to make sure their is no critical bugs to allow these hacks

  17. dune dune says:

    yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees . Finally we got a Hero who can hack PSV
    So Keep going do ur best .

  18. Dynomite says:

    yifanlu is awesome. He’s the one who created the conversion tool for putting PSX iso into Xperia Play so people don’t have to rebuy overpriced PSX games for the phone. Look forward to his results :)

  19. gunblade says:

    werd herd anything about a mod chip fo da vita sumthing like the game cartige fo the vita anything about da port next to the game port notice on da board goes like to the cpu wat do sony use the internal emenry on da vita for 8 gigs is prety much wasent it saposed to have android wy not jus have lunix back…

  20. gunblade says:

    memory cam out hella bad (emenry)

  21. gunblade says:

    ooh any body no if u can use the psp go bluthooth as memory fo the vita jus wandering wanted to buy a bluthooth hard drive n see if it worked fo the vita

  22. Darton Staker says:

    Good luck devs, I wish you all well in your endouvers! Hope the Vita has a bright future thanks to each and everyone’s input. My luck is with you all.
    Regards

  23. Reza says:

    Hi guys.
    I have ps vita 3.51
    I want play psp game in to my ps vita.how?
    Please hellp me

  24. wololo says:

    I think it’s just wording. I won’t speak for Freddy, but I’m pretty sure he has nothing against VHBL, and this was just a weak choice of words because he’s not a native English speaker.

  25. Davee says:

    This post is ridiculous; very utopian.

  26. freddy_156 says:

    That. Read my comment below. My native languages are italian and spanish, so I apologize for any error or if my words sounded arrogant or anything, I honestly didn’t mean to offend HBL or HBL in any way.

  27. Multiboy2k says:

    I am very relieved to hear that. Thank you Freddy for responding. Thanks Wololo for clearing that up.

    I dont know Wololo personally but I have been following him since the inception of Wagic.
    His dedication ranks amongst the top tier of all whom have contributed to the scene. Even now his contributions are stimulating the Vita community in a way that even Sony cant compare from a certain perspective. He is keeping the scene ALIVE. All of the excitement generated around HERE would not exist if there was no VHBL/HBL in existence. Alot of us are Wagic fans. However, HBL opened a door of new possibility when the PSP was all but on it’s final stages at one point. And now with the Vita, even greater possibility is present.

    It’s a wonderful day when all programmers/coders/hackers and even fans of the scene can respect one another. Wololo deserves our respect. Period.
    He hasnt a charged us a dime for sharing his passion and hard work in all of this.
    The only price fans have ever had to pay was with the currency of patience. And, that’s so that WE would gain better benefit from a more complete product.

    Sorry for the long post.
    It needed to be said.

    ATTN VHBL FANS:
    If you truly want to show the creator of VHBL how much you appreciate him,
    Take the few seconds out of your life to click on the ADS in this entire site.
    Make a game out of it, see how many ads you can find in this entire site and simply click on them. It doesnt cost You anything and this is how you can say Thank You in ACTION and not mere words.

    Thanks Wololo, Neuron, and all of the contributors of Vhbl!
    *clicks the Symantec Backup Ad at the top of this page*

    Namaste

  28. Davee says:

    Your posts are very utopian and not really applicable to real life. Also, clicking on ads isn’t going to help the developers who are actually porting VHBL. If you really want to help developers message them and ask them if they’d accept a donation. Some would, some would ask you to donate it to a charity. That is how you help devs.

  29. Multiboy2k says:

    Lol…somehow I expect this response from you Davee. No disrespect but an observation.
    I stand fully by my post 100%

    I find your view to be somewhat dystopian.
    Equally unrealistic because you dont seem to understand how ad dollars work.
    I make close $1100/month in just ad dollars. This is just pocket change compared to what major sites make. But, I digress.

    My motivation and intent was clear when I posted. It had YOU in mind.
    …but, im not so sure what your motivation was in the reply other than to insult me and methods to help You. Could there have been a nicer way to ‘educate’ me on this matter?

    As for donations, if you remember we tried that. And, paypal became an issue. Then Neuron couldnt accept donations, etc, etc..all old news. *sigh*

  30. Davee says:

    You had me in mind? Excellent, so tell me more about that :)

  31. Davee says:

    Anyway, wasn’t trying to insult you. I’d like to discuss this issue with you though, it’s definitely a good debate.

  32. gunblade says:

    yea i jus lern about all doughs adds an dat one can get cash for them .. werd

  33. warfaren says:

    How can’t you see it?

    The CFW is what made the PSP awesome
    If that console was never hacked or modded in any way, Sony still wouldn’t have been able to make it even 1% as awesome as it is on CFW. Want proof? The PS3 wasn’t hacked for several years, just look at how awesome it was before that…

    And before you think of anything like that, no, I’m not talking about piracy here. That’s not what is awesome about a modded PSP.

  34. wololo says:

    There’s nothing in this about piracy for now, you are jumping to conclusions.

    About Playstation Suite, I personaly lost interest when they rejected my registration for the Beta, does that answer your question?

  35. gunblade says:

    well the psp got shity in da west cuz thing like itouch n smart android fons cam out n being able to have newly hundred of apps dat let u do thing from play games to edit a picture right after u take the picher or even have apps dat let u buy coffe wit ur fon gagets dat do things like dat is wy portable gameing is low wit sony wy sony did try to get in to the app market

  36. thevoiceover says:

    Ohh yeah and chill out guys, nothing has been released yet and who knows if it will by this team. I would only hope so and wonder why people think these releases are the reason $ony is not profiting. heck we all are paying x amount of dollars to purchase a game to enable homebrew. Surely we would all purchase a game that is actually good on a system that is engineered for the people, not against them.

  37. kanye says:

    Yeah because what Sony is doing right now is totally fair? It was a long time coming. Having all that firepower and keeping the safety on, it was a matter of time before a team introduced the full potential of the Vita.

    Sure people are going to run Vita ISO’s on it but think of all the other things we will now be able to do with it.

    Pucker up son, if you feel so much for the video game dev’s then send them a monthly cheque.

    Kanye

  38. gunblade says:

    i think sony vita hard ware abit harder to crack den the ps3 n the psp da vita has system scans dat it sends to sony wit its live screen updates

  39. wololo says:

    Will do, since you ask so nicely :)

  40. KonataRola says:

    >.> why the haters are reading this site….? hahaha is easy make you hater webpage and post your ¨hating¨ stuff there ,dont like piracy? dont use it then , this site is for HOMEBREW and nothing else ,even you like it or not ,you cannot nothing to stop it here. so.. stop making useless post`s and if you want to do something make it on the Right forums or blogs.

    *** HATERS THIS IS NOT THE BLOG FOR ANTI-PIRACY or PIRACY-CONTENT

    Have a nice day ._.

  41. yyy says:

    Wasnt the PS Suite Beta open for everyone after a while? It is understandable that not everyone gets into a beta.

  42. wololo says:

    You’re right. I just said I lost interest after that, not that it was unfair :)

  43. yyy says:

    I understand. But at least you can try out PSM now if you changed your mind :)

  44. yyy says:

    I understand, fair enough :) But if you change your mind, you can try PSM now at least :)

  45. yyy says:

    Sorry for double post (triple with this hehe).

  46. freddy_156 says:

    Can you please avoid stupid comments like that? You’re just randomly insulting people and have no idea what you’re talking about.

  47. wololo says:

    The sales of video games in the world rise faster than the world population every year, numbers prove you wrong. Piracy is one facet of the issue, but the real problem is that competition in the video game market has become extremely strong, that’s the main reason your friends’ projects didn’t make it through. Another reason is failure from their company to see that mobile gaming was being taken over by iOS and Android, wrong choice of platform. When did their projects get cancelled? 2005, or 2008?

    Again, don’t work in an artistic/creative field if you can’t accept the possibility of a huge commercial failure.

    You used to sell NDS imports, you must be super happy that the 3DS is region locked then, aren’t you? Clearly Nintendo is on your side to help you make beter sales with imports… or maybe not? The R4 allowed my wife to get a French teaching game on her DS that all stores in the world refused to ship to Japan because it was “reserved for the European market”. Fix all the major problems in the gaming/retail industry like this one or region locking, then come back and complain about how piracy is the reason people don’t buy imports.

    About other homebrew communities such as Raspberry Pi: in all honesty I don’t have much time to program or hack these days, if you’ve been following me for a while, you might have seen that none of the Vita hacks I’ve blogged about in the past 9 months were done directly by me. I got some minor involvement, sure, but nothing critical. That being said, you’ve probably seen I started blogging about the Ouya, as well as some Chinese Android portable consoles, so yeah, I do have an interest in other platforms as well, except I don’t have that much time anymore to do anything with them, just like with the vita. In other words, you might be arguing with the wrong person, because I am not involved with that hack whatsoever, so far. As a matter of fact, I didn’t even write this article :)
    But yeah, agreed, other scenes look extremely interesting, and I am ooking forward to receiving my Ouya :)

    I guess my point is: there are many things threatening the physical retail stores nowadays. Piracy might be one, but I think it should not be your main concern, not when digital purchases are taking most of the business. So going mental on a blog article talking of a possibility of maybe running unsigned code (not even pirated games!) in maybe 6 months if we’re lucky… well let’s just say I hope you’re putting the same energy into fighting the PSN, Steam, Amazon, and all these other people putting you out of business.

    As far as your developer friends are concerned, being a developer myself, I am not worried for their future: nowadays, good programmers always find a job, as long as they are not too demanding on the field/specialty they will work in.

    My personal opinion set aside, I would be interested to get the numbers of piratebay dwnloads VS sales of your friends’ videogames. I am thinking of writing yet another article about the impact of piracy on the video game industry, and real-life numbers would help me to get more than my own opinion on the subject.

  48. shades says:

    Kiddo, understand that games sell consistently depending on their value as a GAME. Good games sell, bad games (usually) don’t. Obviously there will be discrepancies one way or the other, but in that case it usually comes down to how said game is marketed. The Xbox 360 and now PS3 are two of the most easy consoles to pirate on, yet I see no good games with market penetration consistently flopping because of piracy. And don’t even get me started on the NDS.

    If you wanna fight against piracy, try fighting against PC piracy. You might actually have a case.

  49. Game store owner says:

    No problem dude. I do respect you and what you do, but why can’t we keep the homebrew on the open devices. I accept that digital is now affecting retail, and the iphone/android is taking huge chunks out of the hand held market. I guess if you put up any form of security on your software/hardware that’s like a red flag to a bull for hackers out there. Personally I still hold old school values with regards to my content. I like having physical copies. (saying that I am getting the Ouya via initial kick-starter pledge…) I don’t want everything to go DRM overkill and download only.

    At the end of the day easy piracy deterred publishers from a platform. Piracy stems from the circumvention of the security of a closed platform that millions of people purchase to play games that were intended for that platform. Less games = less fun. Homebrew should stay off the closed platforms, and if someone manages to hack it keep it to yourself. put a video up on youtube even… just don’t ruin it for everyone else.

    I’ll have a word with my friends regarding their games, but all the info is freely available on the interweb.

  50. Game store owner says:

    sorry, and the games were released pre iPhone/ android. There have been documented statements from the developer pointing their finger at piracy being the reason for poor sales. Look forward to reading your article.

  51. wololo says:

    Come on, let’s stay polite please, even (especially?) to people who don’t share your opinion :)

  52. gunblade says:

    still not nowing wat hardware the vita may have saying dat wen the new slim ps3 came out wit the new cheap set there firmware came prety hard to crack is dat anything need to worry about wit da vita thiking dat dea is a reason wy they have a system report thing going on wit the vita wont sony be able to lock a hack vita consle like they do wit ps3 from getting on dea psn network

  53. gunblade says:

    i still buy psp game cartige even do i had a psp 2000 wit cf on da like da dual 8 gig mery card i jus did not like the load time from the merory card to the load time to the disk but it wasent much i guess i also save money n space buy buy games used wen they got cheapper n have game dat did jus come out downloaded on my card

  54. gunblade says:

    da 3ds screen can get werdly like hypno mode

  55. gunblade says:

    yea sony should sell game catrige games dat have ps2 or psp games on dem for da vita dat way ill be more like updating to a new consle but sony can actuly market on older games n trying not take up to much memory card space.

  56. gunblade says:

    but they should have realse the vita wit r2 n l2 but i guess they can have a acesery for secend trigers nowing dat look likee the acesery port plug right in to the cpu/gpu

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