Why I won’t buy the NGP
Update: there are LOTS of very interesting comments in reply to this article, I highly suggest people to read the various comments under the article!
Two days ago Sony revealed the NGP, PSP’s successor. The NGP is an impressively powerful portable gaming device, that will be available at the end of the year. The device looks awesome, but after giving it some thought, I think I won’t be buying it. Here are a few reasons why:
The browser will suck
The browser on the PSP sucked. It had poor flash support, memory issues, close to no javascript support… All these problems were probably because of the hardware limitations of the PSP itself but…have you seen the internet browser on the ps3? Do you like it? Youtube half works on it, and when it does work, the interface is slow as heck. Sony showed lack of ability to adapt a browser to their devices twice, I don’t see why it would be different this time. Unless they migrate to a “better” browser, maybe using Webkit (Safari), or something based on Chrome.
God knows I hate Apple, but going from the browsing experience on an iPhone/iPad to that of the PSP/PS3 is always extremely painful.
Hopefully the gyroscope + the touch screen will allow for a good “vertical” browsing kind of stuff. Otherwise the wide screen will mean more wasted space on the screen, because most sites won’t provide a “NGP enhanced” version of their site.
It will suck as a Media Player
The PSP and PS3 were advertised as not only gaming devices, but Media Centers. A machine on which you could play your videos and music easily. They both dramatically fail at that.
The psp: proprietary video format (UMD) with region locking, blocking “high def” videos in mp4 format to artificially increase the sales of UMD videos, no DivX/Xvid/ogg/… support, crappy mp3 player (abysmal playlist support, no “random play all my files” support, some perfectly fine mp3 files just won’t play, no freedom to organize your folders as you want, lack of “good” visualization plugins, no ogg support, etc…). In all fairness, one HUGE good point of the PSP mp3 player was that it played mp3s without the need for additional crapware such as iTunes for the iPod. No ebook reader (all smartphones have at least 10 of those now)
The Ps3: region locking, no support for PAL DVDs if you live in a country where NTSC is the norm, no support for divx/xvid/mkv (seriously? At least for the PSP there was the excuse of CPU power and Ram limitations…), region locking, no possibility to skip ads on DVDs/Blu rays, insanely crappy music player (same issues as the psp, bad playlist support, no possibility to play my library randomly, give me winamp dammit), region locking (did I mention this one already?).
Overall, Sony cripples their perfectly good hardware with attempts at pimping their proprietary formats, and their own stores. They don’t provide you with a way to enjoy your media files, but with a way to buy media from them. I expect the NGP to provide “rental, will work for 48h” types of videos. Fine, but clearly not what I want from a “media player”. The offer will be limited to whatever contracts Sony is able to sign, and usually for me as a foreigner in Japan, this will mean I’ll have to deal with a massive amount of pain to get my French or American movies to work.
The NGP probably won’t have a convenient TV output, unless you pay for some super expensive hardware accessory that won’t even give you HD.
It will be expensive.
Sure, we’re all excited now, as this is clearly the most powerful portable device we’ve ever heard of. Except, it will be released in 10 months. In 10 months, will we accept to pay the same price as a smartphone for something that does less?Will you pay a 3G subscription for something that’s not a phone? Technically, the NGP will compete against the 3DS (which will be way cheaper and will have a larger library of games by the end of 2011), tablets (that will handle medias – ebooks, movies, music – way better), and smartphones (on which the GPS allows you to find where you are and where you want to go, rather than what games are being played in Shibuya…).
By the end of 2011, it will be easy to find a 3DS for 200$. Smartphones can go up to 600$ but the price go down when you take a carrier subscriptions. I believe that by the end of 2011, some tablets will have most of the technical specs of the PSP, for a similar price, and less crapware. Sony officials said the NGP would be sold at an “affordable price that’s appropriate for the handheld gaming space”, and my current guess is that it will be more than 400$.
The games will not be as good as you expect, because your expectations will change in 10 months.
Is that me, or does playing a high quality graphics hardcore game make no sense on a 5 inch screen? I’d rather play an awesome game on the PS3(PS4?), in my couch, on my 40 inches TV, than the same game in direct sunlight, in a crowded train, on a 5 inches screen. In general, People who play action games in public areas are disturbing other people, and not even playing in good conditions. Portable gaming for hardcore games is an ersatz of the “real thing”, and I’m sure that if it weren’t for “exclusive” content, people would rather play in good conditions on a big screen with better graphics. My point is that as soon as the NGP is released, the PS4, or the XBOX 3, or whatever, will put its graphics to shame, and our feeling of the NGP will be the same as it was for the PSP: it looks good, but it’s only a portable device after all.
Its hardware will be under-used
How many games will be using the back touchpad? Are you ready to pay for a 3G subscription that doesn’t give you a phone? Are you ready to give up on skype just because Sony doesn’t want to *** Docomo off? Do you want your GPS to give you a map of popular games in Shibuya, rather than the route for your train commutation or the closest restaurants in the area? Are you ready to get a modern computer that cannot open a text file because it doesn’t make sense from a business point of view?
And guess what? Sony will have an army of DRMs and lawyers to make sure that people who try to make actual use of the hardware will get into trouble.
The 3DS will be cheaper and have a larger library of games
By the end of 2011, you’ll find a 3DS for 200$, and it will have much more games. If you’re lucky, the NGP will cost 400$ at that time.
Conclusion
As I re-read this article, I surely sound a bit bitter. Sony isn’t doing anything different than the PSP or the PS3, so why would I complain? Well here’s the thing. The PSP was my first gaming console ever. (I had an atari 2600 but that barely counts, does it?). I come from a PC background, where it makes perfect sense to be able to code your own scripts, batch files, organize your games the way you want, look at the inside of the OS, interact with it, download an play with freeware or indie games… The limitations and crapware one can find on the PSP and the PS3 really *** me off over time (I bought the PS3 because it was advertised as a great Media device, which it is not!). The fact that Sony retaliates on people who are trying to enhance the experience (by bypassing the software limitations added on top of perfectly good hardware) *** me off even more. They convince you you are buying powerful hardware, while you are actually renting it, and can only use 10% of it. In that kind of “ball and chain” scheme, thank you, but Apple does it better. And god knows I hate Apple.
Sony brings a massive hardcore-gamers oriented device. Making a good game for the NGP will be costy, so these games will be expensive. Nintendo brings a simple machine with a killer feature (the 3D), and always the same games that are cheap to develop and fun to play with. History repeats itself. Just like the PSP versus the NDS, the NGP will have smaller shares, will get less and less devs interest (for pure development cost VS benefits reasons), and I don’t see how the awesome hardware or the “social network” features will help with that…
Then again, I’m not an analyst, and I’m famous for making very bad hardware purchase decisions 😛




Hehe same here… I’m just happy with my psp go and I might consider getting a 3DS… Metal Gear Solid 3DS!!! :O
i will c how it goes but u got some good points wololo
No Wagic on PSP2 then..?.. 🙁
hmmm… Maybe a some plugins would fix this. 🙂
Well, honestly I’d rather have a NGP than a 3DS… Casual gaming is destroying the hardcore game market, to the point where a big company president saying that the future of PC gaming is on Facebook. And Nintendo is helping this catastrophe by making “videogames” (I’d rather call them toys) aimed at soccer moms and kids. Thankfully we have Sony to at least support the Real Gamers’ market.
I agree… The games for Sony’s consoles are a lot more epic!
True, but then the question is: why would you need a portable device for hardcore gaming? I’m all for hardcore games, but I’d rather play them on my couch or in front of my computer… especially since for the same price, a non portable console is much more powerful!
Well, even when I can’t play on my couch or in front of my computer I still want to play hardcore gaming, and for that I always rely on my PSP.
Anyway, is it really THAT easy to port from Cell to ARM? If true, then let’s hope Sony will port all PS3 games to NGP, although that’s very naive of me, considering Sony’s past behavior.
I disagree Casual gaming helps Hardcore gaming…
We all started as Casual gamers remember those Tetris and Super Mario we played when we we’re kids? So don’t give the *** that Casual gaming is killing Hardcore gaming. And last time I looked “Casual Gaming” is just as hardcore as “Hardcore gaming”
Super Mario (at least back in the day) wasn’t casual. It actually took skill. Casual gaming is indeed killing hardcore gaming, with all the sports games, the educational games, and BS like Guitar Hero. Last time you look, casual gaming was hardcore? Maybe you need your eyes checked, or maybe glasses or a new prescription. If casual gaming were hardcore, it wouldn’t be called casual.
I hate how it’s an oval, but I’m still gonna get one, I love PSP’s and I wanna be here and be here if there’s ever an era of CFW 🙂
I remember those good old days where CFW was possible
AT THE END OF THE YEAR!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
@Wololo, since this is the first PSP2 console, it will have flaws and downsides to it just like the older PSP models. If possible, Sony will release updates to fix glitches and improve the systems features.
you’re missing the point
INTERNET: Lacks flash support (can be fixed with “unapproved software”), memory is restricted (again can be fixed with “unapproved software”), is used, with restrictions, for any other application that isn’t eboot based i.e. radio player making browsing is really dificult esp without fixing the previous isuue
GENERAL: existence but lack of fully fledged features ex. the inability to delete incompatible files on psp via xmb, inability to have ANYTHING running in the background(exception, music in background of photos), lack of anything resembling an app market(anything resembling this is actively restricted), and lack of support for SO many file formats(cant scale down videos, can’t play wmp files unless u enable it via wifi, can’t play any video file formats except the “popular” mp4 format.
moral: SONY doesn’t fix anything except the “lock” on the ability to modify their software, in an overeaching attempt to prevent piracy….
@aceofspace i doubt it, now that sony knows all our tricks their going to have the upper hand this time. and like wololo said, even if someone pulls off a cfw, their just going to get attacked with an army of lawyers. god, why wont sony ever let us make games for their consoles those greedy ***.
psx , psp emulators for the pc.. even before the playstation suite comes out theres already a psx emulator for the Android.
What i’m trying to say is that the psp2/NGP and all the other consoles are just mediums for the game developers. They will create a game for such console if the demand is enough (to make money)..
Not putting anyone on a pedestal but to just show an example, Wololo created WAGIC for PC win/linux, PSP (waiting for a mobile mid2p version) to cater to anyone who would put interest in his creation but doesn’t have (can’t afford) the other DEVICE.
Let me call out to the Heroes of the PSP scene. You brought us CFW, Eloaders, Homebrews. Thank you for saving the PSP community. But there are others out there, Maybe a kid playing with a hand-me down OBSOLETE console with just one game. a 30 something who lost everything in the recession and now trying to make his kid’s PSP work as a PDA and making calls on skype outside a coffeshop hotspot to make a deal. I’ve said before that the PSP is at it’s end. But not for you guys. You’ve proven that defeating the BIG MAN is possble.
Some may not be grateful, Some may not be worth saving, But thats exactly why we look up to you. I believe that regardless of the console (NGP , 3DS…) You will always be there. We may have not seen you but we know there’s someone behind that HEROES NAME.
DARK ALEX
DAVEE
WOLOLO
MAGIXIEN
YOSHIHIRO
TOTALNOOB
LIQUIDZIGONG
COLDBIRD
VFLAME
TEAM GEN
Sorry if I can’t name all
May you all LIVE FOREVER!
GTG… Gonna make another phone call.
You forgot Fanjita
notaz
m0skit0
ps2dev.org
PSPSDK crew
Zx-81
laxer3
kai
tyler
mathieu
a whole host of french,german, chinese and japanese hackers
obviously way more than these
i actually think there should be a tribute page for all the hackers involved.
wololo is rite tho. der shd B minimal need 4 hackers or @ least wat they do shldn’t B illegal. i mean all they need 2 do is find a way to stop piracy while keeping software open . IMO sony deliberately allows piracy i.e . keeps the door open 4 it because lets face it, all their consoles have bn expensive hi end machines, wid correspondingly expensive games. dey will never admit it, but dey need homebrew, 2 sell der consoles. dont get me wrong i love the psp power, but it would B nothing sans all dis hackers 2 unlock its real power. even after de release of de iso loaders, i’m still prefering gba, snes and picodrive games. regarding de issue of hardcore gaming on mobiles, idk abt others, but IMO it feels more personal playing games of whatever type on yo hands, i feel mo connected to the action. so i prefer mobile gaming, even in the living room
So psp will be fault ???
I’m glad someone else doesn’t want the NGP! Thank you, Wololo. Me and my friend were talking about this.
He wants it, I don’t. I’m not rich, but as of late, I have enough to buy some nice stuff every now and again, but I can’t justify 300-400$ for a new PSP, considering gaming, while I’m versed in the know of it, and am a video game dork so to say, is just a hobby to me.
And I’m not the type to have to have the latest and greatest things, or be a show off (Granted, I do get enthusiastic about certain products, like I do want the 3DS on launch, but that’s because I want it, not because the hype.)
And did I mention, in the many years it’s been out, I have maybe touched an iPod touch for a total, of maybe 5 minutes?
But lastly, I think that this reminds me of the early 2000’s, straight down to the name. Doesn’t it sound like a competitor to the N-Gage or something?
tl ; dr, I think it’s too expensive, has “Look at me, I have a smartphone, maybe my coworkers will respect me, because I’m cool” written all over it, like the BlackBerrys, and lastly, it looks to much like a fad product.
Yeah, the NGP sounds terrible, if you make all sorts of assumption about how bad it is. Hey, I bet the 3DS gives you brain cancer. I’m never buying one of those, either!
Given the persistent rumors that Sony has a build of Chrome running on PS3, and other rumors that they’ve inked a deal with Opera, I think there’s a fairly good chance the browser will be pretty nice. Why would you think it wouldn’t support multiple orientations? The PSP’s browser sucks because it was built for a web that doesn’t exist anymore and has always been hobbled by a nub driven interface. There’s no reason to think the NGP’s browser will be anything but fully modern, multi-touch driven with an on-screen keyboard. Chances are good for flash, given the hardware will be able to run flash better than anything else in the handheld sector, and if not, at least HTML5 is surely there making it comparable to iOS
And it’s kinda poor form to assume the media playback will suck based on a 7 year old piece of hardware. Is it that painful to navigate music and videos on that digital walkman with the OLED screen, for example?
As for the price, it’s a mistake to use unsubsidized smart phone pricing as your barometer. Those things are sold at a huge mark up. From a pure manufacturing perspective, most cost less than $200 to build. It’s not hard to imagine Sony selling the NGP for $250 if they’re willing to break even on the hardware.
The PS3 is seven years old? Damn, must have missed that. Oh, and “fully modern touch driven” doesn’t mean jack. My parents’ Samsung Transform meets that description, and everything about it sucks. Including Internet. Oh, and I love how you brought up them planning on Opera and stuff. Cite a source, and even if they were talking, doesn’t mean anything. Look at the PSP web browser, notice how it was released only AFTER gamers found out how to access it through a game. And the whole part about assumptions? I love how you trumped yourself there. Since if a scientist, or heck, a researcher stated that based on previous research, a plastic in the 3DS has been linked to brain cancer, would you believe them? Since that’s what Wololo did, he used past indicators to support his argument. And the whole inking a deal Opera deal is technically the same thing.
@Osprey: good points.
My argument is that Sony has been repeating the same pattern for almost 30 years now, I don’t see why they would change now.
Sony made a huge hit with the Walkman, and has been trying to repeat the same thing over and over, without ever really succeeding. The Minidisc, the UMD, the Memory stick, the BluRay(technological failure, but at least a semi marketing success), and now this new card format?
The SD card has been working fine for 10 years, how comes Sony has to come up with a new physical format every 3 year or so?
Not only on the physical market (which is slowly dying), they are trying to score on digital content distribution. DLC, Movie distribution with the PSN, Qriocity for Music… they’re basically trying to imitate Apple’s success by controlling all steps of the distributing chain: Hardware, software, distribution, content. I hate Apple for succeeding with that, and I’m convinced Sony will not get a user base big enough to reproduce what Apple did.
If the browsing and Media functionality of the NGP is better than what I stated, I’ll probably change my mind.
You are right that I based my comments more on Sony’s past than what we actually know about the NGP. But to me the strategy of Sony with the PSN, Qriocity, etc… is fairly clear: their plan is to sell their content, not to make the experience better for me as a customer.
Again, I have very special needs (freedom of using my hardware being one of those) and my point was that Sony will not meet these needs.
@wololo
This article reads like an advertisement for the 3DS.
While i’m not too impressed by the NGP either, and may never get one, headings such as
“THE 3DS WILL BE CHEAPER AND HAVE A LARGER LIBRARY OF GAMES”
are not necessary.
that has nothing to do with advertisement, its just a comparison between them which sure isn’t necessary but helpfull if you want to decide between them
@anon: I’m not advertising for the 3DS. The fact that the 3DS is out 10 months before the NGP (and that it has cheaper hardware) clearly means that it will be cheaper than the NGP on Christmas 2011, will have 10 months of existing games, and a user base. This is not advertising at all, this is facts.
For the record I never owned any Nintendo device.
they might be making games for ngp we might just not know it and i wouldn’t but the 3ds i would just go to the cinema to watch a 3d movie or get a 3d tv with 3d games for ps3 if i had one which i really want
thats how xbox 360 started out… and we all should assume you wouldn’t be an xbox fan right?
Just because it will be released earlier won’t make it any better.
The only thing that will keep the 3DS alive is console buying games like Metal Gear 3DS, Kingdom Hearts 3DS, and the Zelda Ocarina of Time remake, and all the countless pokemon games if you’re one of those…
so you are saying that the NGP sucks at multimedia? it may be true. but what do you expect from a 3DS? the DSi cant even play mp3 files (unless you have a r4). and about the fact that you can only use 10% of the console: *** CHEAP!!! that way i can make money too: release a very powerful device but make it useless. then as soon somebody hacks something you give that guy problems and then you claim money.
We get it you love nintendo, but why would i want to play something in 3d on a smallscreen? –‘
I don’t own any Nintendo device and I’m a proud Mario hater. I actually hate platform games except Little big Planet. Says a lot for nintendo games, of which 50% are platform games, and the rest is Mario Kart 🙂
I’m not saying I like the 3D, but from a sales point of view it’s a killer feature. It has been marketed as “awesome” and that will be enough for most people.
By the way, having seen the same 3D effect on the Galapagos phone (same technology), I wasn’t impressed by the 3D effect at all. After 5 minutes watching it, it hurts the eyes badly, and the effect is not so good if you’re not in very good conditions (good distance from the screen, good angle… I know they provide a way to tweak it, but…)
huh im happy whith my psp and now i have a ndsi so who the heck cares… ill pass on this
You just made me not wanna buy a NGP or 3ds sticking with my two psp 2000 and my two DS lights
@Wololo
I think you forgot that primarily it’s a GAMING console, cuz it really seems that you don’t want, what it’s meant to be for but rather something like a PDA 🙂
@Death Fish: this is very true, I’m not a gamer.
But I think very few grown ups are gamers.
Let me rephrase that: I think the people who are rich enough to buy such a portable gaming device don’t have the time to play hardcore games on it.
In my world, free time and money don’t go well together.
I fail to see what the target of such a powerful gaming device is. Kids won’t have them money to buy it. Parents won’t want to spend such an amount of money on a gaming device for their kids (especially compared to the price of the competition), unless they’re spoiled brats.
Adults will rather get a smartphone, because they don’t have time to play long games, and because smartphones have the excuse to be useful, and not only for gaming, but also happen to have cheap casual games, which is what people are looking for nowadays.
Maybe Sony’s target audience is unclear only to me?
u dont have to be rich to get it there will be a 3g,wi-fi and bluetooth version which will be more expensive and there will be a wi-fi only.
Well… it’s not finished yet. Things can change so I guess we’ll see in 10 months if you were right 🙂
i only use my psp for games i dont put any music on it or i dont use the browser
i only put some movies when i travel a really long distance.
wololo, i wish for you to know that i hold you in the greatest respect
now, firstly your pointing out the problems with the current psps, not the ngp. the ngp will surely be improved (to what extent ofcourse in unknown). so if you were to buy the current psp’s (which its kinda obvious you have bought atleast 1, by memory 2) the only reason for you not to buy this psp is because you already have like 3.
i agree with some of the things but its not easy putting so many thing into 1 small portable console.
in few years they will probalby make a better version of it.
and i really want to test it out
it has better games already
the 3ds will suck more. it has nowhere neer the graphics. and the browser sucks on wii and dsi so the browser will suck for 3ds. you wont have to get 3g on ngp. and its as powerful as a ps3. most the games for 3ds will be for *** [high school musicle] 3ds may be cheap but it sucks.
most of the games suck for ds i dont know how they could of made cod mw for ds
and the good thing about ngp is that u can get only WI-Fi version which is good cos i only play games on my psp i dont go anywhere with it and i dont really use the broser i have iphone for that.
thanks for agreeing with me the 3ds is just a dsi in 3D thats all!
I believe it is also more powerful than DSi. Even so, if people like both consoles, I think its better for them just to get them both no one is stopping them. lol 🙂
The 3DS has graphics power rivaling PS2, or so I’ve heard, from what I’ve seen it is strong enough to support high than PS1 quality games but not PS2 quality.
Also, Pokemon and Zelda are two great series. Zelda OOT is going to be awesome. However, in comparison to the NGP, it’s dead in terms of graphical power. I’m getting both. I don’t console hate.
it is nowhere neer ps2 qualty its maby neer n64 quality
sorry for bad spelling
This is like the first thing I’ve really ever disagreed with you on, haha. But the original DS was on par with high end PS1 games at the end of it’s life, look at Kingdom Hearts : 358/ 2 Days, it matched some of the better PS1 games I have seen (AFAIK, I never really liked the PS1) And on to the 3DS, by judging the Resident Evil, and Metal Gear Solid 3 demos, I say it rivals the PS2 when it was in the middle of it’s life.
let me answer to your comment on ds, you’re wrong.
most games suck on ds, that’s true.
but there is a list of awesome games like
the megaman zx series
3 castlevania games
kirby games
.. all kind of games that wololo would hate (platforming) but in terms of gaming those were great.
it all depends on the decisions of konami, capcom and other game creators… which console will win the contest? that is something only fate knows about
Even if the graphics of the 3DS is no were near the NGP but many people would prefer to play hardcore games on a bigger screen then on a small 5 inch one.So why should people buy the NGP instead of a PS3…????
Me one the other hand is looking forward to both consoles………..
I think one of the core points of the NGP is to get people outside of their house. To many Hardcore Gamers, even extroverted ones, are staying home to play games instead of leaving their homes. Having the ability to play them on the go will get people moving. I think Sony is making a serious push for hardcore gamers who want to enjoy hardcore games everywhere.
That maybe true but the experience can’t be equal to what a huge screen could offer
Let’s wait for the device to come out before we start criticizing it. We’re talking a portable device more powerful than anything we’ve ever encountered. It’s also more powerful than the new iPad that’s coming out.
Earlier someone made the point about being a hardcore gamer and you said ‘but who wants to play hardcore games on a portable device’. That answer is simple: Hardcore Gamers want to play Hardcore Games no matter what device they’re using. I want to play hardcore games on my smartphone. Hasn’t happened yet but I want to.
It appears that you’re approaching the device as a ‘grown up’ ‘businessman’. Citing that you, and people like you, don’t have enough time to play games on devices like this. I am the founder of a profitable, but not rich, graphic design company and I’m a novelist who is writing a novel currently for his publisher. I still find time to actually have fun. Life without fun is a life full of hatred and boredom. Sorry, I ramble on a lot, my point was that I have a busy schedule doing things I love. Yet I still manage to find time to play games and do other non-work things I love. A businessman can easily find time to fit in an hour of COD on a portable device.
I do agree with you on the browser and media player. Yet, again, those are from past devices. This device hasn’t came out yet. It uses a new UI. It’s extremely powerful. It’s basically what happens when a PSP and a PS3 have sex. It’s not quite as powerful as the PS3 but it’s a **** load more powerful than the PSP. Once it gets hacked, and it will, it will be a beast device. Plus it has specs of a future android phone which means we may be able to see an android port.
Price issue depends on how you see it. It could be tied to some Data-Only subsidized plans on network carriers where you can get it for 100 dollars. I’d absolutely hate, and not buy, it that way. However, people seem to like that kind-of thing because ‘they think’ they’re getting a deal when in the long run they’re just spending more money. However, in comparison to other portable gadgets of similar power (lololol) you have unsubsidized phones, tablets, netbooks, and PDA/PMP’s (Cowon anyone). Most of them costing 300 to 800 dollars. PSP is most likely going to be under 599 dollars (off contract) which means it’s cheaper than a powerful phone (off contract).
I probably will not be getting one…. the PSP is everything i need in a portable game device, and when we finally get good PSX support in 6.20 Hen I will be perfectly happy.
Sony will likely fight tooth and nail to try to kill any attempts at homebrew on the ngp, and they’ve likely learned a few tricks from thier experience with the PSP scene that they will undoubtedly employ, meaning homebrew on the NGP is probably a wish that is never going to happen.
3G support? Umm bleh, yeah I’m not a big fan of paying a subscription fee simply to use every single device i own….. and everyone knows that mobile internet plan prices are bloated and overpriced = no thankyou, I’m perfectly happy accessing a wifi router with my PSP
Except that SCEA’s Representative has already stated they were looking into third party non-gaming applications. I’d like to think Sony learned from the hacking of the PS3 that people want applications. If they open the market to allow applications to run on the PSP then it’s highly likely most hackers won’t even release (they will still hack) their exploits. This is simply because most hackers don’t advocate piracy.
This is why the PS3 took forever to hack. No one was trying when it had Other OS. When it was released is when the big boys started playing.
yeah…. sony has been “looking into” allowing 3rd party code ever since the PSP was first hacked, and it has never happened on an official level, the only reason they even say that is to shut us up. the Truth is that Sony hates Homebrew as much as they hate “piracy”…. why? Because Sony doesnt get any money from Homebrew apps, thier licenses complain “Well we had to shell out 20K for a license, how come this guy gets to make apps for free?”
Sony will never officially allow homebrew because they dont make any money on it
I disagree. Sony showed very nice hardware today; The question is if they are gone build the software them self again. I am still hoping there going for an android driven OS + store (for software). I will happily pay a few euro’s for an e-book reader, a better browser, … apps.
You refer the PSP2 as a hardcore gamer device, I disagree again, I have a laptop that does have a CPU/GPU that is way over what I do need to work. Still I wouldn’t buy a cheaper/lighter one. Cause one day, these features might get used. Same goes for the hardware, if they are gone keep the hardware in for +8 years again, its needed to keep it high.
There is gone be a 3G model / –3G model its up to you … I don’t know if I will buy this new device, depends on software, price, other possibility’s.
I don’t really agree with the “It does less than a smartphone” part. You can’t play near-PS3 quality games on a smartphone, And personally, I’m not so interested in 3G and other things as I am in the games. As for the pricing and marketing, I don’t think Sony expects to knock off Nintendo off its top spot yet. They will continue to cater for the hardcore market, while Nintendo retains the more profitable casual gamer market. And it shouldn’t be any other way. I’d hate to see Sony go all Nintendogs on us.
Why is everyone complaining and trying to explain about the NGP and its flaws??? The only thing we have to do is be mature and wait for the NGP to release so we can PROVE what its capable of. Yea, it might have bad things, but at least we can play the PSP in a whole different way. Alot of people kept saying “It’ll be so cool to have a touchscreen PSP.” Now since they have the touchscreen PSP, they want MORE!! This proves that the world is really corrupt.
People always want more; Humanity, in and of itself, is a greedy race.
people if downgrader from 6.3x to 6.20 was made is there any1 doing a downgrader from 6.20 to 5.03??????
this argument confuses because people complain that they dont want high end gaming on the go. why does everyone assume their opinion equals the entire worlds opinion. me personally i cant wait to get this because i have an iphone 4 so if i want to do any of the media stuff you listed i can just use that. also i love the idea of cloud computing.
another thing why are people excited that mgs3 is coming to the 3ds but not that they were able to get mgs4 running on the ngp in like 2 weeks. we cant know how large of a support the thing will get until it comes out and from what i"ve seen most of 3ds launch seems to be remakes. sometimes i just dont get the sony hate. and my last point the ngp will most likely cost $300 so i dont see what all the whining is about.
P.s. oled screen are freaking beautiful to look at. and considering i just put 70hrs into persona 3 portable i think there is a base for hardcore gaming.
Also i have 3 jobs so i can afford LUXURY items that’s right folks despite what people may think gaming is not something you are just entitled to.
and another thing about the library is the ngp will have all of the psp games on psn and ps1 classics, also if sony is smart psn games and downloadable ps2 classics.
/end rant
im not complaining im really exited about the ngp i cant wait till it comes out
“I think very few grown ups are gamers.”
@ wololo your definition of gamer is kind of messed you dont haveto spend 30 hours a week playing videogames to be considered a gamer, if you play any video games whether it be on pc, facebook and yes ipod guess what you are a gamer. And that statement kind of offends me considering i work for all of my ***. i dont need anybody telling im not an adult because i enjoy luxury items. You would be surprised on how much us ADULTS tend to waste our money on frivolous things
If you were an “adult”, you wouldn’t have posted how you felt about Wololo’s OPINION. An “adult” will ignore anyone that tries to bring them down or insult them, because thats what “adults” do. I’m only 17 years old and just directed you on what adults are. Think about that.
im 21 and i have 3 jobs i think i know what it means to be an adult. yeah the world sucks. i dont know how many adults you’ve met but walk up to an older person and insult and see how many people just ignore you.
The key word is “think”, but anyway, lets settle this like “adults” even though im a teen. (There never was an argument)
Aceofspace, the person above you is voicing his opinion and he’s not putting wololo down, he’s merely disagreeing with the opinion and stating how he feels.
It sounds like you’re trying to take the moral high ground and talk down from your pedestal about what an “adult” is. This isn’t a *** contest.
Notice everyone starts to turn their back on Wololo since the HBL isn’t needed anymore. Yea I can understand your opinions, but don’t get mad at him just because he stated HIS opinion. If the HEN was never made for 6.XX+, half of these people would agree with Wololo’s opinion. If this topic offended you, well…….it just did. And if it did, that means that this post is directed to you.
Which is obviously why you don’t know what you are talking about since you aren’t an adult.
Finish high school kid…
Tons of adults are gamers. Ever been to a college town gamestop, they are huge and have 1000’s of games compared to regular cities. Plus all the PC gamers you find online are usually adults.
He can have his opinions just like we can as well. It’s an insult to people who are following this blog, we are entitled to our opinions too. Funny how kids think adults should just ignore anything and everything negative about anything.
yeah yeah yeah I’m 35 and I WISH I were 21 or 17 again…. nothing special about being an “adult”, and an “adults” opinion holds no more weight than a non-adults….. you don’t get smarter just because you get older, and there are 17 yr olds that put me to shame intelligence wise.
True “Adults” wish they weren’t!
“True “Adults" wish they weren’t!”
lol this is so true.
also wololo and everyone else is entitled to their own opinion. I dont know why this post set me off. meh must be lack of sleep. my bad
Wololo, I have read your article and I gotta say I agree with your opinions.
Every time Sony makes a gaming console, it gets the best hardware available, but they don’t utilize it for a better experience. The psp had excellent hardware, but the amount of “crapwares” and the lack of good games made it really sucky. Here’s what I think: The ps2 had good graphics and had good games that you could enjoy on your living room. The ps3 is the same. The Nintendo Ds’ hardware isn’t as powerful but the gaming experience was unique and extremely fun. We have two worlds of gaming, one consisting of portable games which were fun to play with and the other consisting of games with better graphics on a bigger screen. The psp doesn’t fit in either of those worlds because trying to play hard core “living room games” on a portable is simply hard to enjoy in public. What do you think?
this is gonna be my last comment. that problem sounds more like a developer problem. nothing stopping developers from putting those games on the ngp.And from want i see i think we are going to end having a lot of multi platforms titles. So it’s all going to come down to which system + exclusives you prefer. The only thing i dont like about the ngp so far is it’s sive. I would have loved for them to have kept a similar psp go size so it could easily fit in your pocket.
It looks good and it’s a portable device, saddly I think it’ll be surpassed by other devices in no time. I want console gaming on a handheld, it’s the future. No more just sitting at home wasting hours on end, alone at times, instead being on the go. An easy connection to the T.V. should be provided, but just like their new memory sticks, Sony banks off accessoires(hints the non-removable battery). They have forgot about the consumers needs, I will not be buying it either at first. But in the future, I hope it florishes and we all will enjoy this device(like I did with the psp, after all it’s glory).
PS. A SAVE FEATURE better than the psp-go, is a must! for this kind of experience. Save-states, SONY, save-states. Console gaming on the go, must have easy SAVES! Learn from emulators, it reaaaaaallllllllllyyyyyyy helps.
No save states. Thats a cheat. What’s the point of save points in games now, or lives, and health bars, or progress for that matter, when you can just load state until win…
It makes games boring, games are much more fun without the save states. The pause feature is good enough.
Sony won’t include save states. No console ever will.
For the appeal of on the go gaming, state what you want but console gaming on the go needs it. With the psp-go, they kinda got the point.
“For the appeal of on the go gaming, state what you want but console gaming on the go WANTS it. With the psp-go, they kinda got the point.”
There, I fixed your post 🙂
No they don’t. It’s a cheat, and will always be a cheat. Save stating doesn’t take anyway from gaming. It’s like an undo button, missed a bullet on some guy? Fell through that pit in the ground? oh well just load state right before it 😀 yea no -.- It’s not needed, like aceofspace said it’s wanted.
Look at all the other portables like GB, GBA, Nintendo DS, these don’t have save states either. Save states are lazy, and make gamers not want to try as hard. It makes games boring.
The pause feature was MORE than enough. It’s a tool, just like gamesharks are tools, not necessities to gaming.
oh yeah also i dont tend to play handhelds in public settings. also i’m a tech freak that loves powerful gadgets so my opinions my be a little biased.
asmith906, you’re preaching to the choir, it’s the internet man. Be that adult you claim to be. Have an opinion and remember the TROLLS. XD
Had to….
Hi Wololo, i read the entire article you wrote about the NGP, at this time i got a ps2 with mod chip 2 psp (my old FAT from the very beginin on 2006 and a GO but that actually only uses my gf) and my ps3 with OFW 3.56 maybe if the things get good by the nex month i would mod it, im just waiting because of possible ban’s a new way to mod the console or like someones would say “an stupid idea” that sony makes a litttle just a litttle more open the ps3 (hombrew emulators its the priority, i just want to play my old ps1 backups on it godamn!) by finishin the Trial vs Geohot.
First at all i would like to say just thanks becouse to try to express not only my gratitude but all posible human that knows who you are gratitude would be impossible.
now that my gratitude has been “displayed” in a way xD. 3 things. first at all i don’t blame you for not…”like” the NGP me neither in a begining but now im actually considering sell my psp Go and the ps2 to buy 1 or 2 (ya i will have to complete the prices of the 2 :S) depending on the price in mexico xD i would not go far in sayin that minimum MINIMUM the price would be 699 bucks…really. not in the world but here xD wellif the ngp hits the 600 im so sc*** it will cost most than the Xperia play or even more than a 52″ LED screen :'( of course one more time i only im considering this. if not i would keep the psp go and wiat …next year end lest say november 2012 that way it will be my auto-birthday-gift xD and i would have a “good” gadget by the end of the worl….year xD.
second thing is damn i dont think u are a bad buyer or make the bad choices is just the excitment of the moment belive me we all pass trough it take me as an example i wanted an HTC Touch Pro 2 or an Motorola Milestone…and i endend up with my LG optiums i dont regret noo…but i wantend a QWERTY on it not only tocuh i hate use only the stylus xD.
and final but very disturbing maybe, why do you hate apple so much i mean i hate it too u can say itsonly say to say but naa it’s just that i dont see any advantage on have apple products the only thing i owned from apple was an ipod video 40GB (32 matter of fact) and i like it a little only thing i hated was itunes but igot away to use the ipod with WMP on vista xD that was on old 2008 i think the ipod was second hand xD but does the job good. but since…what 2007-2008 the company has changed from an “exclusive” Pc’s solution to Fancy gadgets to high prices. besides that i make video editing on vegas and After effects in mac they work the same only i thik the pre-render is faster but not as faster as use ati stream on vegas to convert video in such a fast time. besides the fact than mac pwns your wallet for add a couple Gb of ram and by that price i can make another pc maybe low-medium end but a pc xD…or add the triple of ram another vga and maybe another Hardiskto the “hig end” pc by the price xD.
well it’s just my opinion guy’s xD anyway i would like very very much that you make an article based on why do you hate apple xD…that would be…interesting..in a way xD.
Grettings from Mexico.
lol dont believe in end of the world yet we will see at end of 2012 if its really real but now just enjoy the life u have left.
i really want the ngp
Oh the world will end one day, make no mistake about that, but this 2012 *** is pure hogwash….. most likely we humans will bring about our own destruction…. who needs “gods” or meteors when all we gotta do is just keep being our selves….. the earth will be purged of our kind, that is for sure…. unfortunatly there wont be much left behind for anything else to live here either
@Michael, thanks for the detailed reply.
What I hate from Apple is very hard to express because it is not very logical, but lots of “gut feeling”. Basically I hate the fact that people buy their stuff like sheep, are all very happy to be in a closed system were Apple controls the entire chain (software-hardware-content-distribution), and don’t question the fact that Apple prevents some perfectly fine apps to be distributed on their store. I think in Europe that kind of “content control” gives us bad reminiscences of the post-2nd-war era, and I’m surprised that this doesn’t trigger a dozen anti-trust laws in the US (doesn’t it feel weird that it is now both legal for people to jailbreak their iPhone and for Apple to prevent them doing so?).
I hate the fact that iPhone/iPod owners don’t know that Apple is THE company that made DRMs “successful” in music players. The fact that after years of people complaining about DRMed music, Apple felt the wind of change and became one of the most “anti-drm on music” company, as if they weren’t the one who made it popular in the first place. The fact that despite removing DRMs on music, they didn’t remove them on video, as if the problem was different.
I hate the fact that Apple’s motto was “think different”, at a time we thought it was “the” company for geeks who didn’t like Microsoft, to see 20 years later that they are far worse than Microsoft in terms of customer control.
Basically Apple represents everything I’m afraid of as a software developer and lover of culture-sharing. The fact that the iPhone is the only platform where independent software devs can make money nowadays makes things worse. Look at what’s happening with VLC to see how their business model is tearing apart the world of open source.
(yes, Sony tries to do the same kind of stuff)
Here in America though people actually buy their products because they are the most reliable… not because we are sheep.
My art school requires each student to buy a macbook pro. I have owned many different Windows based machines over the years and 1 mac, and it still functions like it’s brand new. The OS is superior in every way… for my needs. And a lot of others needs as well. In America Windows is cheap, thats why it is the norm and popular here. Windows is good for hackers and business people… thats about it. For students Mac meets our needs much better, plus a lot of the tools you need for art and multimedia things are on Mac OS, not windows, (with adobe creative suite being the exception (though for me CS5 runs amazingly compared to how it did on my Windows machine))
Plus their customer support is top notch. I agree though, I think some of their products are just useless and overpriced, like the iphone/ipad type devices. Now the iPod classic on the other hand is a bargain. 250 for a 160gb media player?! Thats the best deal I’ve seen so far and would love to be proven wrong.
A lot of people tend to hate on Apple just because of a few gripes or how much their products are. It’s just how it is though, you get what you pay for, and I have discovered this first hand.
Though it seems you only have beef on one product of theirs…
so I guess I ranted a bit, still though to blame a whole company…
“Not because we are sheep”
You must not have taken a look around because the USA, like most country, is a country that strives on sheep. The difference is that the government uses a different approach. Instead of telling us straight up that we cannot do something they hypnotize us through media with the stuff ‘we can do’ because we’re country based on freedom.
We do buy products because we’re sheep, not me I hope but most Americans, you’ll hear fanboys from america arguing over their iphones and blackberries. Did you think Americans were excluded from the subliminal mind control.
Of course I’m biased; This is coming from an American free-thinking activist and libertarian.
Dont forget the underpowered overpriced pcs they try to peddle under thier “MAC” brand.
Hmmm gee let me see apple wants $1600 for this MAC when I can buy a PC with the exact specs except running Win7 for $450…….. Which am I gonna buy….. such a hard decision.
Don’t forget about thier outright refusal to incorperate any removable storage format into thier Ipod/Iphone/Ipad lines.
Don’t forget that instead of listening to thier customers that they would rather tell thier customers what is best for them “You don’t need removable media”….. anyone remember the Steve Wozniak interview in which he was in utter denial over the Iphones clearly visible flaws and basically called the Iphones critics idiots? Lost any respect I had for him on that day :/
Apple is a company that wishes you would just throw every ounce of common sense out the window and just blindly buy thier products…… regardless that they are overpriced and underpowered…… PLEASE whatever you do DONT read the system specs and DONT look at the price…. just HAND OVER YOUR CREDIT CARD NOW!
If it have the games…..have the gamers.
I don’t care about the extra’s like GPS,3G OR 10G,or if it make coffee.
I’m all about the games.
I think i will buy the NGP, i thought about the 3DS, but after seeing TONS of reports saying that it kills your eyes idk anymore. Also i hate how they bumped the price to 60$ on their games. What the heck is up with that!!!?!
You have good points. I bought my psp and I didn’t play with it very much outside my house at all. (I take it with me everywhere but I just don’t have an interest in playing with it) I play with it only in my house. Most of these programs on the psp are useless! I only use it for music and playing games thats all. I don’t remember when I last pressed on internet radio, skype……
I’d rather spend my money on my gaming pc upgrades. I should be more careful with what I spend on. I already wasted a lot of money on my psp in the first place. (I will probably sell my psp go for like 150$ because it is in almost like mint condition and I bought like 60$ worth of psn games)
TBH I’m MUCH more a pc gamer than a console gamer, the NGP would appeal to me more if it had Intel Inside and ran Windows 7…… playing WOW or Starcraft 2 on a handheld, how epic would that be?