TN Hen will most likely be available for 6.31
Update, from Total_Noob’s blog: “I’ll release HEN for 6.20. When Sony releases a new firmware (but I don’t think so, because they don’t care about the PSP anymore), I’ll port it to 6.31 (idea by Flyer)”. (Thanks to Sakuryu for the tip). This more or less matches my suggestion so I’m happy with this idea. Thanks Total_Noob 🙂
Total_Noob contacted me yesterday to tell me he was going to port his Hen to Firmware 6.31 (you can see part of our discussion on his blog here).
Total_Noob has, on top of his kernel exploit, a VSH user mode exploit that he was planning to use for his Hen on 6.31. Basically, the scenario in this case would be that he focuses on a Hen for 6.31, and all users (including 6.20 users) would update to 6.31 and use the Hen on 6.31.
There are of course many good points in doing that: Total_Noob would only need to work on a Hen for 6.31 (less work for him), and everybody would get the exploit for free. In the other scenario (where Total_Noob does not disclose his VSH vulnerability), People on 6.20 would use the 6.20 version of TN Hen, and people on 6.30/6.31 would need to buy the Hot shots golf game in order to get the exploit. This also means more work for Total_Noob.
It seems total_Noob’s suggestion is the best for everyone… well, not for people who will upgrade to 6.32 (or whatever the name of the next firmware will be). These guys will be locked on a new firmware, knowing that 2 user mode vulnerabilities where used on 6.31, in order to please the 10 guys who upgraded from 6.20 to 6.30 because they said “f#ck homebrews” during the HBL 6.20 era (if you upgraded to 6.30 for a valid reason, feel free to comment, by the way)
My suggestion is the following:
- Release TN Hen 6.20 for Patapon and TN Hen 6.31 for Hot shots golf.
- Sony patches their firmware with 6.32
- Release TN Hen 6.31 for the vsh vulnerability AND work on HBL 6.32 for the same vulnerability.
This way, People on 6.31 who don’t want to pay for HS Golf just have to wait for the release of 6.32. And people on 6.32 will most likely benefit from HBL soon after Total_Noob releases his User exploit. To me, this scenario is better than the one suggested by TN.
Of course, even that is a compromise IMO. If you ask me what my true feeling is, a good vsh vulnerability should wait a little longer, and be used in association with a kernel exploit if/when a new one is found, for future firmwares.
Reading at the comments on Total_Noob’s blog, I see how people can forget their own case very easily. You will see that most people on 6.31 think only about themselves, and ask him to release the vsh exploit, without thinking for one second that it could be used by the people, who, exactly like THEM, will upgrade to the next firmware. Aaah, human nature…
As I told Total_Noob, it’s his choice, and he shouldn’t care about other people’s opinion on the subject (including mine), except maybe other hackers he trusts. Most likely, the “normal” people will want anything that benefits them, I don’t expect many people to think about those who will upgrade to the next unpatched firmware.
What do you think?
Update: I don’t understand why people are so confused. I never said people would have to buy Hot shots golf. As a matter of fact, it’s exactly the opposite. Total_Noob is trying to find a solution that pleases a high number of people, and is looking for ways for people to avoid buying the game (hence the vsh exploit). My suggestion is to release the Hen for patapon AND for Hot shots golf, THEN to release it for the vsh vulnerability AFTER sony release a new firmware. People who are on 6.20 and think they are getting sc*** should read more carefully. People on 6.20 are the only ones who have the guarantee they will get the Hen and won’t have to pay anything for it, whatever happens. The “money” issue is only for people on 6.30/6.31. Remember that I expect my readers to use their brains 😉



@muffinhead: Yo i know wat ur sayin but if HE ALREADY SAID HE WILL RELEASE IT FOR 6.20 FIRST , WHY UPDATE
@Kobe why are you guys stopping him if he wants to update let him his psp and when 6.20tn hen comes out he will be saying i should not have updated my psp and he would have to wait for the next release lol/
@muffinhead
From TN’s blog”
“I’ll release HEN for 6.20. When Sony releases a new firmware (but I don’t think so, because they don’t care about the PSP anymore), I’ll port it to 6.31 (idea by Flyer).”
From Wololo’s article above:
“People on 6.20 are the only ones who have the guarantee they will get the Hen and won’t have to pay anything for it”
Straight from the horses’ mouths, so to speak.
@yellow
Good point. lol
Hmm, I wonder if there is another save game explote on a demo out there…
PSPGen released a FAQ for the TN Hen. Please delete this post if it is not allowed. I’m not providing any translation, just the link for those you are interested and know French because there are lots of rumors about this.
http://www.pspgen.com/faq-reponse-questions-hen-total-noob-actualite-195367.html
That explained a lot, at least for me. But as wololo/TN said, stay on 6.2 or lower, DON’T UPDATE because you will need then the Golf game.
@PSPOwner: There are no plans for an ISO loader officially, not on HBL (it’s impossible) or TN HEN (possible but no one has announced it) so you’ll have to wait. I’d like to play PSX games on my PSP 3K also but we just need to wait until somebody decides to make an ISO loader for the HEN.
DAX’s website undergoing maintenance MUST mean he’s coming out with a new firmware
call me stupid but i still don’t get it? Will i have to update to 6.31 and buy hot shot to get HEN or i can stay on 6.20 and use it overt patapon 2 demo? i need simple answer now!!!
@Brdzoman: stay on 6.20
Whatever happens, all I can see is good news. Actually, I can run hbl in my PSP go with HSGOT exploit. If I were in 6.20 OFW, I could use the patapon 2 demo. TN could release whatever exploit he wants, my PSP Go will be able to run it. All I can see is good.
Well said, Rafael Paim.
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Lots of questions arising from these posts. Unexplainable to me. People must search for the FAQs before asking some questions, observing how much repeated is that stuff. Wololo goes right, people soon forget its own case, condition and questions.
@Brdzoman:
The HEN will be released for 6.20 patapon first so sty on 6.20. 🙂
oops I mean stay
Some people in Total_Noob’s Blog are getting so desperate they asked when was Christmas.
This is suck big time. Been waiting with version 5.50 for long time. Now 92% complete went down the tube. TN is so close to complete 6.2. He should not switch direction. Most psp3000 are 6.2 or lower anyway. If bunch of dumb a$$ upgrade their psp, then they deserve to wait.
Aight, this might be a dumb question but is there any NIntendo DS emulator out that works with HBL 101, I have a psp 3000 6.20
I think we should have some one call sony and tell them about HBL so they will release a new psp firmware and then TotalNoob will relase HEN … If im wrong please correct me, wololo said total noob will release hen when sony releases a new firmware well… just a thought, some one else will have to do this though if they want hen im too lazy and i already have M33…
Guys, just think of this logically. You can update ANYTIME YOU WANT!!! But you CANNOT DOWNGRADE. Now that I made myself clear, if you update now while everything seems to be vague, you could possible regret your decision. If you stay on 6.2 and the HEN comes out for 6.3, just upgrade when it is confirmed that the HEN has come out ONLY for 6.3. This really isn’t a hard decision that you have to make. Just think before you start posting, It saves a lot of time.
@Kobe there is but its slow to the point of being unplayable.
@TragicTheBlubbering: thanks but do u know what it’s called 🙂
i got a question,the plans are for release the Hen for 6.20 for the patapon, then port it to the golf games on 6.30/31, then if an update comes he release the new exploit and the hen for it ok, i got that clear, but why cant sony block the hen and only the exploits that have been found??
(sorry for my english im from puerto rico)
do not update to 6.30/6.31 hen goes first to 6.20 i bet the game is already patched
What if i have 6.20 AND the golf game.
Will it work on 6.20 or only 6.31?
@Kobe
DSonPSP but its really slow.
@universalconsole
If you have 6.20 you can just use the patapon 2 demo which is free. You’ll also have the added benefits of a much more compatible hbl, and an earlier HEN release since the 6.30/6.31 version won’t be released until after sony releases a new ofw version.
@crazy3agl3
no……no its not.
@TragicTheBlubbering: which one cuz I tried dsonpsp 7 and it didn’t work, and sorry for asking so many questions man, I really appreciate the help
YEA!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAD BOUGHT HT GLF SHOT A LONG TIME AGO AND NOW IM GETTING A HEN 4IT THX TN
@Kobe
http://dl.qj.net/psp/emulators/dsonpsp-beta-6.html It should work, but don’t expect much out of it.
@Kobe
DSonPSP beta 6 should work but don’t expect much out of it. Its very slow.
what is this mean? People on 6.20 are the only ones who have the guarantee they will get the Hen and won’t have to pay anything for it, whatever happens. The “money" issue is only for people on 6.30/6.31. Remember that I expect my readers to use their brains . question> 6.20 users can load iso/cso ??
How long do we have to wait for the HEN? be more specific TN¡
@ everyone
will an psx eboot work on hbl or will work on hen ?
and how will it work ?
@shin: yo all that means is that people on 6.20 can have the hen for free because we r using the patapon demo BUT people on 6.30/6.31 have to BUY the hot shots golf game to make it work, this has nothing to do with isos/csos
@TragicTheBlubbering: aight thanks a lot man
@wololo
I do not mean to spam you but team mars has made an iso loader through the patapon exploit.
http://img64.imageshack.us/i/mov20100711002.mp4/
Please answer me back if it is real or fake.
@Abdullah
Hey friend this psp in the video is FW 5.03 not 6.20 or 6.31 the way of 5.03 run isos is very different. From 6.00 until 6.31 the system change is not the some! This isoloader not usable in 6.20 or 6.31.
@Abdullah: don’t trust anything done by team mars. These guys have been mass-producing Fakes for a year or so.
@Muffinhead Why did you stopped commenting? I think it’s because YOU WERE WRONG!!!
@Leonardo: yea I know, he was a ***
Well, if it’s the case, not matter if TN disclose his HEN, because it just work for homebrews, of course, it gives more compatibility, but it’s for all homebrews, not for isos or like.
So, I recommend not to criticize this work.
If someone wants to play games in iso or cso or like formats, HACK BY YOUR OWN YOUR PSP, and let this guys alone.
Bye…………