TN Hen will most likely be available for 6.31
Update, from Total_Noob’s blog: “I’ll release HEN for 6.20. When Sony releases a new firmware (but I don’t think so, because they don’t care about the PSP anymore), I’ll port it to 6.31 (idea by Flyer)”. (Thanks to Sakuryu for the tip). This more or less matches my suggestion so I’m happy with this idea. Thanks Total_Noob 🙂
Total_Noob contacted me yesterday to tell me he was going to port his Hen to Firmware 6.31 (you can see part of our discussion on his blog here).
Total_Noob has, on top of his kernel exploit, a VSH user mode exploit that he was planning to use for his Hen on 6.31. Basically, the scenario in this case would be that he focuses on a Hen for 6.31, and all users (including 6.20 users) would update to 6.31 and use the Hen on 6.31.
There are of course many good points in doing that: Total_Noob would only need to work on a Hen for 6.31 (less work for him), and everybody would get the exploit for free. In the other scenario (where Total_Noob does not disclose his VSH vulnerability), People on 6.20 would use the 6.20 version of TN Hen, and people on 6.30/6.31 would need to buy the Hot shots golf game in order to get the exploit. This also means more work for Total_Noob.
It seems total_Noob’s suggestion is the best for everyone… well, not for people who will upgrade to 6.32 (or whatever the name of the next firmware will be). These guys will be locked on a new firmware, knowing that 2 user mode vulnerabilities where used on 6.31, in order to please the 10 guys who upgraded from 6.20 to 6.30 because they said “f#ck homebrews” during the HBL 6.20 era (if you upgraded to 6.30 for a valid reason, feel free to comment, by the way)
My suggestion is the following:
- Release TN Hen 6.20 for Patapon and TN Hen 6.31 for Hot shots golf.
- Sony patches their firmware with 6.32
- Release TN Hen 6.31 for the vsh vulnerability AND work on HBL 6.32 for the same vulnerability.
This way, People on 6.31 who don’t want to pay for HS Golf just have to wait for the release of 6.32. And people on 6.32 will most likely benefit from HBL soon after Total_Noob releases his User exploit. To me, this scenario is better than the one suggested by TN.
Of course, even that is a compromise IMO. If you ask me what my true feeling is, a good vsh vulnerability should wait a little longer, and be used in association with a kernel exploit if/when a new one is found, for future firmwares.
Reading at the comments on Total_Noob’s blog, I see how people can forget their own case very easily. You will see that most people on 6.31 think only about themselves, and ask him to release the vsh exploit, without thinking for one second that it could be used by the people, who, exactly like THEM, will upgrade to the next firmware. Aaah, human nature…
As I told Total_Noob, it’s his choice, and he shouldn’t care about other people’s opinion on the subject (including mine), except maybe other hackers he trusts. Most likely, the “normal” people will want anything that benefits them, I don’t expect many people to think about those who will upgrade to the next unpatched firmware.
What do you think?
Update: I don’t understand why people are so confused. I never said people would have to buy Hot shots golf. As a matter of fact, it’s exactly the opposite. Total_Noob is trying to find a solution that pleases a high number of people, and is looking for ways for people to avoid buying the game (hence the vsh exploit). My suggestion is to release the Hen for patapon AND for Hot shots golf, THEN to release it for the vsh vulnerability AFTER sony release a new firmware. People who are on 6.20 and think they are getting sc*** should read more carefully. People on 6.20 are the only ones who have the guarantee they will get the Hen and won’t have to pay anything for it, whatever happens. The “money” issue is only for people on 6.30/6.31. Remember that I expect my readers to use their brains 😉



last time i heard 6.20 has more compatability that 6.00 even wololo said it and that guy name jjs whos talking could be a fake this is the first time im seeing him psot here.
@JJS You’re wrong. 6.20 INCREASES compatibility.
Who can proof it’s the real one?
You don’t have to believe me. Read this: http://wololo.net/wagic/2010/08/01/half-byte-loader-r96-a-k-a-jjs-rocks/ and this: http://wololo.net/wagic/2010/07/11/should-you-update-to-6-20/ .
On 6.20 and above firmwares, you have to use the rather antique method of estimating every syscall. JJS is correct, as he himself programmed the new way for firmwares <6.10 to have perfect syscalls. Please, everyone on this page, do some research before you blindly throw around assumptions.
In short, do not upgrade to 6.20 until the HEN is released, as you will have slower and less compatible homebrews.
Hmm, I’m on 6.20 now and enjoying the hbl. Reckon I should update to 6.31 and wait for the vsh but in the meantime buy hotshots golf? or just play the games I already own until the vsh comes out? Or just be content with my 6.20 firmware?
p.s. I’m from Aus 😉
my other fear is if I wait too long to update to 6.31, 6.32 may be out and I may have missed my chance! Any advice?
@bazzman_7 STOP ON THE 6.20, did you read total_noob’s blog? He will release 6.20 first. Or you can update you firmware and update your time to wait for a HEN.
@Leonardo : JJS is right. 6.20 has less compatibility than previous firmwares, except on the PSP Go.
@wololo yeah, I posted that BEFORE reading the other comments, sorry.
I’m so happy, wololo answered me *-*
ok i was wrong and you guys were right.
Does anyone give the devs respect nowadays?
obviously not.
*Bows before JJS*
SO what? http://wololo.net/wagic/2010/07/11/should-you-update-to-6-20/
Wololo says to upgrade, but… ***?
OH again I posted without reading well… just ignore it.
leonardo thats what i saw too .
I was reading through the comments and when I read the post by yellow saying JJS was new to things here, I was just about to jump through my computer screen and slap him in the face! I’m very glad you apologized, you really embarrassed yourself there buddy. ^_^
……So, UPDATE to 6.31 and wait or NOT?
That’s the question that no can seem to answer CLEARLY.
If he’s going to release 6.31 and skip over 6.20, then what’s the point of staying on 6.20?! Other than the wishful thinking of hundreds of folks too cheap to buy one stinking game, is it ok to update our PSP Go’s to 6.31 and get a HEN by Christmas?
Thanks
@Muffinhead
stay on 6.20.
Thanks for the response th3pwnsh0p.
But, I was really hoping that Wololo could chime in and give HIS answer. When he speaks on these issues, it is much more definitive and based on actual first-hand knowledge/info. Upgrading is a big deal. Not something I want/want not to do based on conjecture.
you should just make it for 6.31 so after you release it, people can just update to 6.31. i recommend for people to tell all the people they know that have psps about this so in case sony makes a patch, we will be ready!
6.20 I think, the golf game is for the 6.31 right? Sony can patch/remove the game easily?
youre still asking that question, can’t you guys read???
hey everyone there is an FAQ PSPGEN which can answer your questions which you can’t find here 🙂 http://www.pspgen.com/faq-reponse-questions-hen-total-noob-actualite-195367.html hey note I hate PSPGEN
@wololo
from what i have read in the net…..there are two VIABLE scenarios available-
1)release a HEN for BOTH patapon 2 demo and the golf game exploit SIMULTANEOUSLY, that way ONLY 6.20 ofw users will be satisfied as 6.30/6.31 ofw users will have to spend a bit of money and be partly satisfied;).But the vsh exploit will be preserved for the future firmwares….
2)release ONLY the vsh exploit for 6.30/6.31 ofw. BOTH 6.20 and 6.30/6.31 ofw users users will be immensely satisfied 😉 but there will be no(discovered) Exploit left for the future.
From what i was able to grasp from Total_noob’s blog he intends to release only the HEN for the 6.30/6.31 ofw golf game exploit. As already explained this might not be feasible for all[for eg-me living in india;)]
so wololo please clear my doubts….
others are also free to comment;)
First of All, thanks wololo/total_noob for your effort. I bought a pspgo believing that sony will put her best to make this console as great as the old psp. But i was wrong, and just for the record i dont know if Kingdom hearts will be avaliable for pspgo.
So, I support you and total_noob in every decision about what to do with the kernel exploits that you’ve found. Since we DONT NEED TO PAY ANYTHING; all we can do is congratulates you and wait for the best. Those who understand enough to help, please help, those who has the condition to help with donations, do that.
Because you and total_noob are not obliged to do anything, and release anything to anyone. You do this for the good of scene.
Thank you for all.
It’s good to feel the PSP scene back alive!
Thanks Wololo and TN!
@everyone
I am downloading a game which is of PSX and is an eboot so will it run on hbl or it will run on hen and how ?
plz answer
@everyone
will psx eboot work on hbl or will work on hen and how will it work ?
please answer
@wololo
I have OFW 6.31 but what is the meaning of first releasing 6.3X TN HEN and when SONY patched the hen with OFW 6.32/6.40.
Because SONY only blocked the PATAPON 2 demo HBL does this mean that SONY has made a exploit while blocking PATAPON 2 HBL on OFW6.3X.
And what will actually happen will total_noob make a TN HEN for 6.3X and how user mod exploit or hbl exploit.
6.20 HEN (F version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB3nqYBhzQQ
@muffinhead He will not release for 6.31 first, please don’t talk about what you don’t know
I got my psp 3004 now on ofw 6.20….
But can i buy the Hot Shot Golf out of the psn store??
and the UMD psp essential version??
or are they patched??
@Muffinhead You do not know about it, huh? TN will release 6.20 version first, not 6.31! Stay on 6.20, people!
Someone is deleting my comments! Or i’m bugged…
Someone is deletting my comments!!
@Leonardo
wth are u talking about?
Cant you read? HE SAID IT HIMSELF IN HIS BLOG! lol
..dont u be an idiot. kthxbai
Yo EVERYBODY, Leonardo’s right DONT UPDATE PASSED 6.20, TN WILL release the Hen for 6.20 FIRST!!
Should first release the hen for 6.20
because here are many users is the firmware you have
on your psp, and not for 6.31 as you would have to buy a game
order to hack it. please release it first for 6.20
And since then to 6.31