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27 Responses

  1. DangerMouse says:

    Don’t let the release of PSP-3000 stop you from your homebrew support of 3.xx/4.xx! We love this game, and just because you got a psp-3000 doesn’t mean that everyone is going to jump at the chance to get one when they already have more than 1 psp phat. :) Definitely looking forward to a cfw 5.0 though! :D I don’t need skype, and I love playing with the IR of phat’s. It’s a nice prank to be able to turn peoples TV’s on and off and change channels with my psp. mwahah lol

  2. Blackthorn says:

    I have a Phat now running 5.0 CFW care of Dark Alex. There’s honestly no reason to update at all to the ‘newer’ model at all because a Phat with 5.0 pretty much ‘does it all’ anyway.

    That said, I’ve noticed the blog here is straying away from Wagic a little :)

    You’ve gone to a lot of trouble to get people with older tech supporting you – don’t let them down!

    The last version released was .10 which still is plagued with bugs and stability issues.

    As a very keen gamer who’s most eager to see a good, solid and STABLE version of 1player magic on the PSP, I’d really hope that the Dev keeps a focus on this goal first before over extending himself.

    The recent talk has been about network functionality and card customisation/asthetics which I personally believe should be put on the back burner until the base version of Wagic is very stable, solid and reliable.

    If we go off on tangents here, we might see the entire project fold, or be done half arsed.

    I’d take a base version of Wagic that’s robust and reliable without the customisation / network play options over a version that tried to do it all and couldn’t nail any area completely.

    Naturally the dev will do what he does and we should most certainly be thankful he’s taken the task on hand at all – but I’d point out that this little project has gathered a base of fans and support who are eagerly waiting for a good, base product release first. Don’t let them down! ;)

    I’m looking very much forward to the next release (hopefully with the stability issues addressed).


  3. wololo says:

    Hey Blackthorn, I’ve had a look at the comments you posted so far, and the only one reporting a stability issue was this one :”Game locks up *very* regularly on the deck building screens.”

    If you have a look at the bugs lists, you will see that
    1) This issue was added to the bug list a while ago
    2) It is grayed, which means that I’ve been working on solving it. I actually spent the last 2 weeks working on the deck editor to make it more stable.

    So I’m definitely not letting you down here ;)

    As far as what I’m coding, it is true that everything has that “half-finished” homebrewish look, but focusing on different areas of the game every day is the best way I’ve found to keep motivated. I have a todo list huge as a dictionary, and fixing memory leaks / crashes is not the most interesting nor easy part of it…

    Edit : there will ALWAYS be stability issues with this game, don’t dream about a 100% stable release, it will never happen unless a miracle brings me a team of 5 coders from the skies, and we set up a real project.

  4. Elfo says:

    I don’t understand, you want to run homebrews without CFW? Is it possible?

    Let’s just hope that the “scene” find a way to get into psp 3000 soon…

  5. wololo says:

    I want anything that allows me to run Wagic on both my psps. CFW are the Eldorado of homebrews, but I’d be fine with something less efficient (I believe user access mode is enough for Wagic to run).
    And yes, it is possible to run homebrew without CFW, in fact, CFW are a really new thing. Back in the old days, you needed to downgrade to official firmware 1.50 to be able to run homebrews.
    If you couldn’t or wouldn’t downgrade, you had to run an eloader through an exploit in various games (GTA lcs being the famous one) and then launch your homebrews from here

  6. Blackthorn says:

    Well when’s the next release? The last one was on the 9th….

  7. wololo says:

    I hope you’re kidding…

  8. Blackthorn says:

    Nope. Peeps check back here regularly and day after day… nothing.

    Just like most other developers out there – a string of initial releases, then get caught up in big ideas without stabilising the base and the releases get fewer and fewer and fewer…

    I’m still stuck using the same old buggy 0.1.0 release.

    Like the title of this blog says : Give me homebrew!

  9. wololo says:

    Hey Blackthorn, I’m sorry to say I don’t like your attitude.
    for your information, the first alpha (version 0.0.2) took 14 months of work.
    Then the time between alpha 0.0.2 and version 0.1.0 was 2 months and a half. If you’re expecting me to do new releases every week or so, you’re mistaken.
    You keep saying version 0.1.0 is buggy, yet I haven’t received any constructive bug report from you, how do you expect me to fix your problems if you don’t talk about them ?
    If you want a new release, install VC++ and get the sources, then compile the game. If you manage to do it, I’ll open my svn to you, and you’ll have access to the latest release, every day. How does that sound ?

    Also, it goes without saying, but there’s one rule in homebrews : you don’t ask when the next release comes out.

  10. Blackthorn says:

    You honestly think I care if you like my attitude or not?

    Either put up or stfu pal. I’ll download it as I see fit and if the feedback hurts your sensibilities, then you really shouldn’t be in this game.

    I don’t care how long it took you.

    I don’t care about how hard it was.

    You want a name for yourself as a developer here, so it’s your problem to get shit out there in a timely manner and do you don’t piss off the supporters by blaming them for your tardiness.

    As it stands, 0.1.0 is buggy, unstable shit.

    Don’t like the feedback?

    Then release better code and stop blaming the people you leave waiting.

    Every god damn half arse wanna be hack operates just like you. You get off on riding the wave of initial hysteria, but when it comes to putting out quality code you suck at it, and when you’re called on it you get all pissy and cry.

    NJ and Dark Alex are top quality coders because they produce tight, efficient and quality code in a TIMELY MANNER.

    Want the praise of a good dev? Then learn to operate like they do and produce the goods. I’ve seen hundreds of developers just like you that want everyone to love and support their half arse attempts, but rarely (if ever) actually come through with the goods.

    If you want the accolades and support then you need to STFU and get to work instead of just stalling.

    Ball is in your court pal, not mine – and you can take your fucked up ‘do it better if you can’ attitude and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.

    This is how the REAL world works.

    Deal with it.

  11. wololo says:

    I’ve tried several approaches to reply to your comment but I just can’t find the words. It is sad that you think what you think, but I guess that cannot be helped.
    You have a very bad opinion of homebrew developers (not only me), and I must say people like you are the main reason why good devs leave the PSP scene to go to much friendly places (GP32X anyone ?)

    But I guess only time will tell you if I’m one of those guys “only looking for love and support”

    Oh ,and for the record I don’t need praises from anonymous people on the internet to know I’m a good developer, and I don’t “want a name for myself”

    Edit : if by “tight, efficient and quality code” you mean 3 bugfix releases in less than 2 days à la M33, I’d have to disagree with you (although overall DAX’s releases are indeed fast and of very good quality). This is what happens when the devs get too much pressure from their peeps, and this is NOT the way I work.

    Please don’t post anymore unless it is constructive criticism about the game. I won’t delete your posts because I believe in freedom of speech, but you’re just making noise.

  12. Blackthorn says:

    Oh for god sakes get off your moral high horse here mr ‘ripping off Wizards of the Coast for homebrew’ – it doesn’t wash and you sound ridiculous.

    Stop having a cry over being given a hard time here. If you spent half the amount of time checking your blog every 2 seconds for replies as you did actually writing and bug testing code, then maybe we’d have a stable release out there to crow about?

    Don’t kick Dax in the nuts mr ’14 months to get this far’. He cracks unseen code in a couple days and gets 10x the amount of flack you ever will (and has sony breathing down his neck) – yet still produces quality that you’d only ever dream about. You’re not even in the same class as Dax as a dev, so where you think you get the right to bag him god only knows.

    You only class what I say as noise because it’s negative against you, not because of quality of content.

    You’ll get the pat on the back when you deserve it and I’m a fair person – when you produce the goods I’ll be more than happy to say well done.

    Until then… all you have right now is the 0.1.0 release as testament to your 14 month’s work thus far and I will tell you honestly and frankly (because unlike others, I won’t kiss your ass with needless praise) that I’m far from impressed.

    You’re losing sight of the trees for the forest and like it or not, you need an arrogant bastard like me to kick you in the nuts and get you refocused on the job at hand.

    Produce the goods, then we’ll talk.

    That’s not noise – that’s fact.

  13. J says:

    This is not “how the REAL world works”. This is how BUSINESS works. If you’re paid for your work, then you gotta deliver in a timely manner. Not the case here.

    Wololo develops Wagic on his own free time. He might as well not do it. Blackthorn, you act like a conceited brat who somehow seem to think homebrew developers owe you updates. Wololo is releasing out of kindness and I don’t think he ever expected any thanks or encouragements – they just popped up, because his work was awesome. Comments, encouragements, and bug reports certainly help him keeping motivation and eliminating bugs. Your ranting, your insults ? Not so much.

    If you want TIMELY releases, I suggest you hire Wololo and pay him for his efforts, every month, for a real developer salary. *This* is how the real world works, as opposed to an impressive display of child-like narrow-mindedness and “STFU” quotes. But in the real world, if you are not putting anything in, you aren’t due anything either. In the real world, when you get something out of kindness, you say “thanks”, not “fuck you”.

    I suggest you try to get your “Magic for PSP” release somewhere else if you don’t like Wololo’s work. The net is a big place, if you don’t like it here, there are many other places to go plague with spoilt child mentality.

    Grow up.

  14. Blackthorn says:

    Have a QQ why don’t you.

    I had a crack at Wololo’s development process, but didn’t attack the guy personally. I only bite back in that fashion when I’m attacked first.

    Who the fuck are you to judge or lecture me anyway J? Seriously, get off your fucking high horse and kiss my ass pal. It’s the interwebs fucknuckle, keyboard warriors are dime a dozen and you still have a sensibility about it? Sounds like you need to GTFO moar or learn to deal with shit.

    Like I said before, I’ll give credit when it’s due – not before. I’m looking forward to a decent release as much as anyone, but unlike you, I don’t suck the cock of the Dev before the goods are on the table.

    The dev schedule here so far is like 99% of other homebrew out there.

    1 – Great idea
    2 – Release initial version(s)
    3 – Get carried away with big ideas
    4 – Don’t fix the basic bugs and get a solid stable base complete first
    5 – Project becomes too big, too soon, dev loses interest and pisses off.

    1 – Magic for the PSP – Woot!
    2 – 0.1.0 is the current release version
    3 – Start talk of new cards and features on Blog
    4 – Get sidetracked. No further release after 0.1.0 since first post on QJ – media high fades with the lack of new updates.
    5 – Releases now slowed down…

    Look, I’m not attacking the guy personally and kudos to him for putting this idea into effect. But one of the biggest problems with the PSP Homebrew scene is the plethora of half baked, shitty-coded great ideas that are released half done to the masses and I’m sorry if I’m not the type to kiss the ass of every Dev who takes time out to produce shit for my PSP.

    Very, very few releases for the PSP scene are tight and stable – but there are a few.

    Fact is, you’re happy to be spoon-fed any served up piece of shit for your PSP because your attitude is ‘anything is better than nothing’.

    Personally, I’m sick of having so many people hype up releases only to produce crap and bring the quality of the whole scene down.

    Do you see the difference?

    Look, this particular release has the potential to become a ‘must have’ homebrew for every PSP and I’m serious about that which is why I’m damn harsh with kicking the dev in the balls about getting his shit sorted, because he’s getting off track lately and I’d rather give him a serve now than sit around like the rest of you idiots in 6 months going ‘hey, where did that Magic for the PSP dev go’?

    Fuck that.

    Yeah, maybe you might think sweetness and light is better motivation for a dev to do his shit, but I can tell you from experience over and over that it’s all bullshit. If a Dev really WANTS to release quality gear, he’ll do it of his own accord – regardless of what people say.

    Fuck, look at Dark Alex. They guy gets a shitload more negative feedback than Wololo ever will but produces work of the highest quality and why?

    Because he’s a good dev and takes pride in his work. He doesn’t need a pat on the back because his motivation is ensuring that what he releases with his name stamped on it is fucking quality – and that’s an attitude I damn well admire – not this ‘Oh if you don’t all love me then I won’t release a thing’ bullshit you want to employ.

    Just realise that whilst my attitude comes across poorly, my intentions are in fact, good.

    Fuck, even I’ll be happy to send a cuddle and cash donation to the dev when the goods are released and I’m content with the work.

    If I’ve hurt your feelings then as uncle chopper says ‘You need to harden the fuck up’

  15. wololo says:

    I see where you’re coming from, and aside the fact that you’re very arrogant I agree with you: there are lots of bad releases in the psp scene, and lots of promising stuff that never gets finished, and this is sad. 100% agreed, but you can’t blame the developers for trying. Most of the unfinished software is because of lack of interest by the public, or simply because the developer found more interesting stuff to do in life… you know, family is more important than homebrews.

    I won’t argue regarding Dark Alex’s dev skills. He’s very good at what he does, but YOU probably don’t have the required knowledge to even know if you can compare what he does to what I do. Custom firmwares are the result of years of work by several people. NOT to say than he didn’t do anything, far from that, but you cannot compare that to 1 year work of one developer alone.

    The releases pace did NOT slow down. It’s because you haven’t been here from the start that you cannot compare. As I said, version alpha took 14 months, and 0.1.0 was released 2 months after. Go back to your math books. Oh wait, there’s no point in doing statistics with 2 values !

    Unlike what you seem to think, I’m not looking for praises on the internet. I’m looking for fun stuff to program, and an interesting programming challenge.

    Again, I understand where you’re coming from, and I guess that if I read very carefully, I can see that it might be possible that your intentions are good. As I said, just wait and see. I’m not changing my development schedule for one anonymous guy on the internet. Have a look at the bugs list to see the progress, that’s all I have for you now.

  16. Blackthorn says:


    It’s your show Wololo and I’m not contending that. You’ll progress as you’ll progress and nothing I say will alter that.

    No need to attack my intellect. You don’t know me from a bar of soap and assumptions like that are usually incorrect. You can already gather from my manner of speech and the fact I can tie one sentence to another that I’m not the usual 1ee+ script kiddie looking for a rise pissing people off anon on the net.

    Don’t be so quick to judge me as arrogant mr ‘Go back to your math books’ guy, apart from being hypocritical, if this is the result of 14 MONTHS of work then quite frankly I’m not impressed. Sounds like I shouldn’t be the one studying here…

    “NOT to say than he didn’t do anything, far from that, but you cannot compare that to 1 year work of one developer alone.”

    I reckon he’d be up for the Pepsi challenge on that one and quite frankly, he’d wipe the floor with you.

    But I digress, this isn’t a pissing contest between some unknown and one of the most prominent devs on the scene today – this is about you spending less time defending your ego and more about getting your shit together on getting the basics right.

    Yep, I’m a bastard and harsh task master, but I give credit where it’s due.

    We’re still waiting for some sembelence of stability with the client. Ball is in your court…

  17. Heya Willow I decided to pop and see what you meant about the flames…

    Blackthorn you really aren’t being fair to yourself…bastard is harsh…and is it even true? How many people who do not know who their fathers are really exist these days and how many of the turn out to internet trolls?

    You know what trolls feed upon? flames. Funny how that works. If your points were truly valid youd leave out the invective and the hinted at “I want you to think I am badass street punk” attitude and just say what you think…

    “Man I wish youd update more often…this product is amazing for the fact that I spent $0.00 on it.”

    Willow your point on that other forum was well taken. Though I think I have been downright civil by comparison. Holy cow 14 months? That is a huge investment of time for such a low return. If I had a psp Id be very happy to have even a buggy game of magic to play with.

    Edit : Gotta love the typos…:D *bats away the demons from his fingers*

  18. LordBane999 says:

    “And i go down, down, down, and the flames get higher. And it burns, burns, burns. The ring of fire. The ring of fire.” (of course I’m going to start off with some lyrics) Man i can’t believe the hate. Blackthorn, Blackthorn, Blackthorn. Your the usual type, you use simple arguments and single well described sentences to make it seem like know what your saying. But you don’t. Using DAX as an excuse for a real developer lol, if you actually followed DAX and his work you would he even took about a several month period off from coding and hacking in which people thought he left for good, and who doesn’t cut corners here and there, everyone does. Example how many homebrews are out there that are based on the Quake engine? Or how many homebrews are written in LUA. Before you start arguing about asthetics why don’t you take the time to actually make a homebrew yourself and see where it ends up. I’ve done translation efforts for homebrews before, and trust me even if the code is simple to some, putting it all together takes times and you have to everything in a specific order, you don’t and you risk comprising your own work. Also yes, I believe you aren’t a child, but I can tell by the way you talk you are still young and learning, your most likely either in highschool or have left it. The fact that you outlandishly blamed wololo for his own incompetence which is non-existent. Is really not becoming of an adult, grow up and learn some better language. I can tell also by the way you talk you haven’t probably even been through enough shit in your life to talk about it that way either. End of discussion.

  19. Szei says:

    These comments just made my day. I guess it’s just satisfying seeing an annoying, egotistic person having their arguments thoroughly ripped apart.

    For the record, I (and I’m sure countless others) thoroughly appreciate every update, bug fix, et cetera that you make for Wagic. I mean, honestly, you’re doing this all for free. No one has any right to complain.

  20. Szei says:

    Don’t take it personally. <– blackthorn at it again

    On a side note, while I understand where Blackthorn’s frustration is coming from, the way he voices his opinion is uncalled for. He shouldn’t be taking it out on others. If he really is disappointed by the number of promising projects that end up dying off, he should be trying to help. I think he tricks himself into thinking he’s giving constructive criticism when in truth he just comes off as whining. Of course, all of you probably know this already.

    (Sorry for ‘double-posting’ and ‘reviving/bumping’ a dead topic… but this isn’t a forum so I don’t really think those rules apply. Well, sorry just in case.)

  21. TheKrimzonGhost says:

    This thread should be locked and closed. Even commenting back to posters of this nature empowers them…They would be left with nothing if there were no Devs.


  22. Cyberxion says:

    Wow…just wow.

    Listen Blackthorn, you just don’t talk to people the way that you do. That’s not something that an intelligent, socially well-adjusted adult does. That’s something that someone with self-worth issues does to compensate for his shitty offline life.

    Listen, it’s clear to me that you just get your rocks off from being a cunt. How did I come to that conclusion, you might ask in the most obnoxious way possible? Well, there you were, asking after updates as if you gave a shit about the product at hand, but later on you proceeded to insult the developer for making a “rip-off of Wizards of the Coast for homebrew”, to paraphrase you. We can only take from your dismissal of his program that you don’t have anything invested in it, and that you were just here, waiting for the opportunity to be the most insufferable gaping asshole you possible could be. You were never interested in giving him honest advice, so you need to get off of your high horse and get the hell over yourself. You’re a troll. Be man enough to own up to that.

    So hey, maybe you ought to take your own advice and GTFO more. Get to figuring out why your offline life sucks so badly and then do something about it. Stop projecting your personal inadequacies onto innocent people on the internet already. Nobody should made to suffer because you suck at life so badly.

  23. Cyberxion says:

    Shit. I just realized that I posted this to a topic well over a year old at this point. Well, that was an exercise in pointlessness. Sorry about that folks. @_@

  24. Dalton_Corazon says:

    Yeah me too ^_^ hopefully, they are still alive. Long live homebrew

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